Make a backup of your CD/DVD navigation disc

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#291

Hi guys, I’m new to this forum, and I’m trying to copy a Teleatlas DX 2008/2009 disc. I’ve tried using alcohol and clonecd, different profiles, and even different pc’s, but I keep getting this message:

Failed to read sector

Is this normal and can I continue to copy? Or is there something I missed?


#292

DVD RAM Drives wont burn DVD ROM I assume.

I have a 2006 TL and luckily a friend down the street does too. So based on the previous posts (thanks in advance for all the good info), I ripped an ISO of the 2nd most recent dvd update for Acura TL 2006 model year - orange disk 2008 version. I ripped it using DVD Decrypter and the file was about 7gb. I also have a very small msd file.

I have IMG Burn and Nero Trial version 9. Unfortunately my PC only has a cdrw burner, not dvd burner. Have a dvd rom drive but not writeable so onto newegg for a good burner replacement. Anyone have recommendations?

Once i get that put in, I imagine a simple burn of the image to the Verbatim 8gb DVD +R DL will do.

Anyone have success?


#293

Can I skype anyone my iso file who is looking for an acura navi ISO and see if you can rip it - Tried IMG Burn with failure, about to try Nero 9…


#294

[QUOTE=laafterhours;2281473]Can I skype anyone my iso file who is looking for an acura navi ISO and see if you can rip it[/QUOTE]You’re not authorized to send copyrighted material to others that way.
So please refrain from such requests.

Which burner have you purchased/used ?
Have you set the booktype for DVD+R DL media to DVD-ROM (i’m not saying this guarantees your copy to work) ?


#295

[QUOTE=Terramex;2281691]You’re not authorized to send copyrighted material to others that way.
So please refrain from such requests.

Which burner have you purchased/used ?
Have you set the booktype for DVD+R DL media to DVD-ROM (i’m not saying this guarantees your copy to work) ?[/QUOTE]

Just purchased a Plextor Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249037

Says its DVD rom and IMG Burn picks it up as DVD Rom but I cant select the drive to change the booktype in IMGBurn so i assume its working correctly.

No worries on the skype - sorry i mentioned it.

I ripped ISO from 3.7 version and have an mds and iso file.


#296

[QUOTE=laafterhours;2282171]Just purchased a Plextor Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249037

Says its DVD rom and IMG Burn picks it up as DVD Rom but I cant select the drive to change the booktype in IMGBurn so i assume its working correctly.

No worries on the skype - sorry i mentioned it.

I ripped ISO from 3.7 version and have an mds and iso file.[/QUOTE]

I should also add I have Nero v 9 (Trial) and within the options to change the booktype, booktype isnt an option to change. THanks in advance


#297

rhuisman,
I have an OEM p/n 25956245U Ver. 7.3. I’ve tried coping by using DVD Decrypter 3.5.4 to make ISO and burning with Nero 7 essentials. Nero automatically set book type to DVD-Rom. The files all show up when I read it from a computer but the DVD still will do nothing in the 2005 Tahoe. Any suggections?

Ron


#298

successful backup of p/n25956245 v7.3
using imageburn, rip @ 2x (bout 90 min).and burn @2x also. Booktype-dvdrom. I made many coasters before deciding to lower the rip speed. Used memorex @ first but had long reading delays. Moved on to Verbatims and now reads quicker.


#299

Hi,

I have a Honda Civic i-pilot 2008, with integrated Alpine Satellite navigation System.
The integrated browser is an Alpine and original maps are Navteq recorded on 2 DVD-ROM (DL), containing a Europe-East (APN3-69107 ver. 3.33) and the other Europe-West (APN2-69107 ver. 3.33). The DVD are 2008-2009.
Being very expensive I would like to make a successful backup copy of the DVD and keep the originals at home.
I tried to copy with:
Imageburn, Clone, Dvd Fab, Nero8, Alcohol 120% by the first making image file (ISO, ngr ecc) and then burning at low speed (2x).
All copies made (except DVD fab) passed verification but in the car load the firmware update and after stop before that I can press the OK button.
I burned all DVD DL +R on Verbatim and Imation or other on Fortis.
The burner is Slimtype eSAU208 2 ML05 (USB) and i set bitsetting on DVD-ROM.

How can I get a working copy:bow::bow::bow:?

[B]Imageburn reading with the original disc like this:[/B]

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.58 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2.990.743
Size: 6.125.041.664 bytes
Time: 664:38:43 (MM:SS:FF)

TOC Information:
Sessione 1… (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2990742)
-> LeadOut (LBA: 2990743)

Track Information:
Session 1…
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, TS: 2990743, LRA: 2990742)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1.902.799
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1.481.158
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 1.706.192 (57,05%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 1.284.551 (42,95%)

[B]
DVD burned:[/B]

Slimtype eSAU208 2 ML05 (USB)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2.990.752
Size: 6.125.060.096 bytes
Time: 664:38:52 (MM:SS:FF)

TOC Information:
Sessione 1… (LBA: 0)
-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 2990751)
-> LeadOut (LBA: 2990752)

Track Information:
Session 1…
-> Track 01 (LTSA: 0, TS: 2990752, LRA: 0)

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-003-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16.580.607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2.283.519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16.158.975
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 1.902.799

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16.158.975
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 1.902.799

Layer Information:
Layer 0 Sectors: 1.706.192 (57,05%)
Layer 1 Sectors: 1.284.560 (42,95%)

[B][I]Thank you very mutch, and pleace help me![/I][/B]


#300

[QUOTE=pusha;2287643]successful backup of p/n25956245 v7.3
using imageburn, rip @ 2x (bout 90 min).and burn @2x also. Booktype-dvdrom. I made many coasters before deciding to lower the rip speed. Used memorex @ first but had long reading delays. Moved on to Verbatims and now reads quicker.[/QUOTE]

pusha,
Does your burned DVD show (PTP or (OTP) after burning?


#301

@juron99
As suggested in the GM Navigation DVD 3.0 thread:
The DL DVD blanks you can buy are pre-formatted as OTP.


#302

So I assume by your statement that it doesn’t matter whether you burn OPT or PTP, the burned disc should work with either. That being the case, I’ll have to assume that write speed may be the variable that is crucial to a successful disc, as the disc doesn’t appear to be write protected per Burnout and I’m using Verbatim disc and imgburn.


#303

I posted this in the Newbie section but thought I should finish my thought on this thread and not leave it hanging.
I found that PTP and OTP doesn’t matter in the copying process. What mattered for me was burning speed as pusha stated above. I have two burners; Pioneer DVR2910 and LG GH22LP20. When I put a blank Verbatim 2.4X DL disk in the LG, Imgburn only gave me the option to burn at 4X and I was able to make a good copy by doing so. When I put a blank disk in the Pioneer it gave me four options; 2.4X, 4X, 6X, 8X. I burned a copy at 2.4X but haven’t had a chance to try it out yet.:clap:


#304

Well the Pioneer at 2.4X didn’t work. I then burned it at 4X and it did work. So I guess the speed is determinant on your burner and media and you will have to try different combos to get a successful burn.


#305

New guy here but I have been doing a lot of reading and seems like noone has found a way to back up navteq navigation dvd.

I have a 2007 honda odyssey and jsut received the 4.73 white disc. I will try to do a backup copy like I do all my movies but I do not know if it will work.

I have a DL dvd drive. Using memorex dvd+r dl discs. I will try with dvddecrypter/imgburn/dvdclone/alcohol120 etc… I will set booktype to dvdrom

ANyone get it to work yet??


#306

Tried DVDdecrypter last nite and disc error in the van. I burned another this morning with Imgburn and will test when I get home from work


#308

I need some help in regards to dvd+r size. I bought a backup of the BMW 2009 professional dvd map and checked it with imageburn/decryptor and this is what it says:

PBDS CDRWDVD DH-48C2S ND12 (Fibre)
Current Profile: DVD+R

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,326,096
Size: 4,763,844,608 bytes
Time: 516:56:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 6.3x

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: SONY-D21-00
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,522,703
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Notice the single layer Disc ID: SONY-D21-00
Notice the Disc Size: 120mm

So I went out and bought a spindle of the Sony DVD+R and when i came back and checked the blank disc it also shows:

Notice the single layer Disc ID: SONY-D21-00
Notice the Disc Size: 120mm

HERE IS THE PROB:
the working copy of the Nav disc(source) shows:

Sectors: 2,326,096
Size: 4,763,844,608 bytes

the one I purchased shows:
Sectors: 2,295,104
Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes

Now how is it possible that whoever made the disc can squeeze the extra size and sector into his disc? Is there a special command to write more data than it shows? I tried to burn the disc from image even though it says there is not enough space on the disc but it ended up giving me an error at the end due to lack of space.

if the source is a sony single layer dvd+r burnt copy of the bmw nav disc and it works, why is the same disc i purchased not the same size? I noticed that other 4.7gb dvd-r or +r all show similar sizes to the one i have purchase, what is the secret to being able to get my disc to burn like the original? Or does sony make a special version of a blank dvd+r that somehow has extra sector and size? All i need is to solve this issue so i can complete my bmw backup

I also noticed the backup sony disc shows:
Supported Write Speeds: 6.3x

and the one i purchased shows:
Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x


#309

You could only get support if you were trying to make a backup of your original BMW nav disc.
Sorry, but it’s not a purpose of the forum to help with purchased backups :cop:


#310

[QUOTE=Terramex;2310830]You could only get support if you were trying to make a backup of your original BMW nav disc.
Sorry, but it’s not a purpose of the forum to help with purchased backups :cop:[/QUOTE]

I do have an original, in fact several. we are a car dealer and we put in backups so they do not get taken from the cars we sell, we keep the original discs with the owners manual in the office. We’ve lost a few discs before thus the quest for a solution.


#311

[QUOTE=ingenuity1996;2310741]Now how is it possible that whoever made the disc can squeeze the extra size and sector into his disc?[/QUOTE]Very few burners can overburn DVD+R media.