Looking for a new PC, recommendations needed

vbimport

#1

Hey.

I’m looking to purchase a new pc this week. I have to buy it this week.

I’m a little pressed for time so I need some advice.

I bought my current pc in January of 2005 and I kind of got screwed. So I need some help to make sure my new pc will be a far better deal than the last one.

Feel free to make any kind of suggestions and tell me your opinions. Any help is appreciated.

Anyway these are the PCs I’m looking into:

This is the one I want to get

iPentium Q6600 CORE 2 QUAD 2.4G 8M 1066
MB: ASUS P5QL PRO LGA775 1600
4 GB RAM DDR2 800MHz
ASUS GeForce9800GT 1Gb DD3 256bit
HDD 500GB SATA II 7200rpm

Other options include

Core2Duo E6850 3.0 Ghz 2x2 Mb 800Mhz
MB: MSI Intel P35 NEO ICH9
4Gb RAM DDR2 800MHz
HDD 320Gb SATA II WD 7200
MSI NX8600GT T2D256E

Athlon AM2 6000 3Ghz DualCore 2x1 cache 800MHz
MB: MSI K9N SLI-F V2 NVIDIA nForce 570 sli MCP
HDD 500 Gb SATA II 7200
4GB RAM DDR2 800MHz
2 x MSI NX8600GT-T2D256E

Intel Core Quad Q6600 2.4G
82031 (?)
4Gb RAM DDR2 800MHz
HDD 500GB SATA II 7200
NVIDIA EN 9600/GT -512M
Intel P43 Chipset

MB: ABIT IP35 - P
RAM: 4GB DDR II / 800MHZ
HDD: SEAGATE 320GB SATA II / 16MB cache
VGA: 9500 GT / 1GB / DVI / HDTV
CASE: 450W SH09A
CPU: INTEL CORE 2 DUO E7300

HP dc5700 MT Intel® Pentium® D 945; 3,40 GHz; 512 MB RAM; 80 GB SATA 3,0 Gb/s 7200 rpm HDD; keyboard, mouse; Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 300

HP dc5700 MT PD-945 80G 1.0G 4 PC Intel Pentium D-945, 80GB HDD 7200rpm SATA, No Floppy, DVD-ROM, 1.0GB PC5300 DDR2 (dual channel)

HP
CPU: Intel Pentium E2160 Dual Core 1.8GHz/1MB/
MB: Intel GigaByte X48T-DQ6, DDR3/1600
RAM: 2GB DDR3/1333
HDD: 250GB, SATA2 7200rpm
VGA: PCI-E nx9600GT 1GB DDR3

Intel® P965 + ICH8 chipset, 1066 MHz FSB
Core 2 Duo 3,0GHz 6MB
4GB RAM DDR2
HDD 320GBSATA II
VGA: GeForce 8400GS 512MB

Thank in advance 


#2

Honestly the Q6600 is an old cpu now, it runs hot, uses a lot of power and isn’t optimized like the new 45nm cpu’s.

I would go for:
Intel E8400/E8500 cpu

a P45 MB like: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P or ASUS P5Q Pro

video card:
POWERCOLOR AX4850 512MD3-DH Radeon HD 4850
or
POWERCOLOR AX4870 512MD5-PPH Radeon HD 4870
With new video cards, when gaming you need to manualy raise the fan speed on the gpu to cool the card because it will run very hot while gaming.

ram:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800

PSU:
Antec EA650 650W ATX12V get it while its on sale, $60 free shipping.

The case is up to your taste, Cooler master, Antec.
This one is cool: Rosewill Wind Ryder
ATX Mid Towers, without PSU, cheapest first search


#3

Thanks a lot for the info man.


#4

What is your budget and does that included the monitor? What are you going to use the PC for? gaming?


#5

Gaming, no monitor.

Buget around 850 $


#6

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218
Video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121276
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151027
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037
Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146731
//Danne


#7

A lot of fan failures on that 4870 Danne, I would get a different one.

NaMek, if you want to OC your CPU, this is a good deal:
ZEROtherm ZEN FZ120 120mm CPU Cooler $14 AR FS, it a top rated cooler and a great price. It uses the preferred backplate and bolt through method.

If the 4870 fits in your budget, definitly go for one.


#8

A good combo deal for the UD3P MB and an OCZ PSU (700W) and 80+ efficient. The PSU is only $60 after the combo deal and the rebate, FS to boot:
combo


#9

Thanks a bunch guys.

I have one question will the E8500 Core 2 Duo be futureproof?

Because I’ve read that Core Duo are better for gaming, but I’ve also read that many new games may utilize the Core Quads in the future.

So is it smarter to get a Duo or Quad?


#10

That is undoubtably true, but unfortuanatly WHEN is the question. Ever since the Q6600, 3 years ago, and even still now only like a handful of games can use more than two cores, and they aren’t even mentionable!

If you want, the Q9300 is only a few bucks more, at $240
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300, you can OC that to 3Ghz it would be plenty fast.


#11

No point in getting another cooler (stock is actually silent), also at least tell that there’s no guarantee that one will hit X Ghz overclocking and it may cause instability and other side effects of it.

You could get quad but it’s more expensive and likely slower for gaming…

If the fan issue is an issue (I belive you would see it more around the world then)…
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121290

I’ve seen reports of OCZ being somewhat loud in the past and who makes those PSUs.
Seasonic is a very solid/safe buy :slight_smile:

The setup above ends up at around 810$ or so…
//Danne


#12

Thanks for your help guys.

I’m thinking about buying a PC from this shop. Their site has an option for english ( I live in Macedonia :slight_smile: )

http://www.set.com.mk/setClient/products.asp

My budget is 650 euro. I have to buy it by friday next week or a coupon for 250 euro will go to waste.

If any one has some free time any help would be appreciated.


#13

Can you contact them and find out when the will have the Q9300 in stock, they also don’t have the Q9400 instock.


#14

Its not a good store, everything is out of stock. They may be doing this on purpose to get rid of old stuff.


#15

Okay dude, here we go, this is the best for a gaming system with what they had in stock:

EN9800GTX+/HTDP/512M, PCIE/PCIE 2.0, GeForce 9800GTX+, 512MB DDR3 256 bit, Engine CLK (MHz) 738, Memory CLK (MHz) 2.2GHz, Shader CLK (MHz) 1.836GHz, HDTV, 2*DVI-I (1HDCP), DVI-HDMI adapter

LG DVD/RW GH22NS30 Black SATA

HDD 500GB Seagate 7200rpm 32MB SATA-II

CM-Chassic Centurion 534 (RC-534-KKN2-GP) 5x5.25" , 5x3.25"( 1Exposed) BLACK bezel, black body, w/12cm blue LED fan

P5Q, LGA775, Intel P45, System 1600/1333/1066/800, Memory DDR2 1200/1066/800/667, N, Graphic slot 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16, SATA 3Gb/s*6(RAID 0, 1, 5, 10), Audio 8-CH(HD), LAN Gb Atheros PCIe, Core"2 Extreme/Core"2 Quad/ Core"2 Duo/Pentium dual-core/Celeron dual-core /

Corsair 4GB 800MHz TWIN2X4096-6400C5 20 DDR2, XMS2-6400 4GB 2x240 DIMM, Unbuffered, 5-5-5-18, matched pair, with Heat Spreader

CM eXtreme Power 460W (RS-460-PCAPA3-EU) ATX12V V2.01 Passive PFC 460W with EU Cable Black version

iPentium E7200 CORE 2 DUO 2.533G 3MB 1066 LGA775 BOX

I don’t recognize many of the names of the aftermarket cpu coolers, so I cannot suggest one. But if you want to help cool the cpu better, they have shin-etsu thermal paste that will cool the cpu better than the crap that comes on the intel cpu cooler. You have to remove the old stuff that comes with the cpu off the cooler and apply a line of this stuff:

CoolerMaster PTK-002-U1-GP Thermal Compound Kit (Shin Etsu)

Total is 676 Euro.

Please next time let us know where your ordering from to save time.


#16

eric93se I sincerely thank you for taking the time to help me.

I will go to the store tomorrow to see if I can get the system above you recommended.

Thank you again.

I’m just thinking about getting the iPentium E8400 instead the iPentium E7200 CORE 2 DUO.


#17

It wasn’t in stock as far as I could see. But definitly go for the E8400 if you can. I’m using the E7200 right now and have it at 3.4Ghz, I had it at 3.8Ghz for a while but decided to do some case and MB mods to cool things down more, nothing was overheating though.

edit: yeah it says “quantity none” for the E8400. the E7300 is also out of stock.


#18

They have it on a catalog I got at the store the other day. I’ll call in and check.

Plus I’m living in Macedonia shops sometimes don’t keep their sites up to date with stock updates :slight_smile:

Thanks again for the help man.


#19

I’ve decided on this PC:

MB: P5Q-Pro
E8400 CORE 2 DUO 3.0G 6MB 1333
Corsair 4GB 800MHz TWIN2X4096-6400C5 20 DDR2
GeForce 9800GTX+, 512MB DDR3 256 bit
HDD 500GB Seagate 7200rpm 32MB SATA-II
CM eXtreme Power 550W

I’m looking into a better power supply about 620W and for a cheap case.

I went over budget, the whole thing will cost me about 730 euro or 1000 $. Do you guys think it’s worth it?

And do you think it will last me a 2-3 years?


#20

Yes its a good build and will last. You really didn’t need the ‘pro’ MB because you cannot use the second PCIx16 slot, but thats not a big deal.

For the PSU, stick with the ‘extreme power’ series, that is the better quality line that they make.