Liteon SOHW-1633s......HELP!

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#1

First off, Hi fellow CDFREAKS! :slight_smile:
This is my first post, but I’m not exactly a nOOb when it comes to the PC environment.

NOTE: all burnt projects are done with NERO 6.6.0.13 @ 4X or 8X if applicable.

Here’s my problem:
I own a Liteon 1633s which after tonight is crossflashed to SOHW-1653S.
I used the Omnipatcher and applied the default settings with it.
This all went smoothly…no trouble.
Now; I did the flash upgrade to try and address a problem I was having (I have already read around this great forum, and FAQ but can’t find the specific issue I’m dealing with)
I already know that a firmware tweak was most likely not the solution, but tried it anyhow, becuase I’m at my wits end.

Here’s the specific issue:
Memorex DVD+R 4X disc (I don’t know the code)…drive won’t even read (“please insert disk into drive”)
Now, This is a disk that I burnt with THIS DRIVE! and it has read this disk (multisession data) after a successfull burn before.
Yes I started scratching my head on this one.
I had made an aspi layer change the other day when I installed an older version of “dragon naturally speaking” (yes the app demanded I use older drivers…blah)
So I thought “this must be the problem” Well I have forced aspi to 4.60 (older but proven drivers…why there aren’t newer than 4.71 is beyond me)
Still no change.
I have un/re-installed the secondary IDE channel in device maneger, and made sure dma is enabled…no dice.

So I tried the same type of disk: MEMOREX DVD+R 4X that I have a movie on that I burnt with this burner as well…bingo same results:
“Drive makes whirring sound…nothing, no disk read”
Just tried a Memorex DVD+R 8X with movie that I’ve burnt with same drive…nada.
Just inserted an IMATION DVD+R 4X that worked yesterday when this prob with the memorex’s was going on…same thing!!! :a
I thought it was the memorex’s, but now I’m lost
I’ve been up all night on this, and have wasted 6hrs of my life.
This drive is either dying or I just ruined it.

Ok, I tried a memorex DVD MINUS R and it reads it!
Why not PLUS R?
(as you know, this drive should read/write just about everything!)

Here’s my drive specs, its letter is F: and its a slave on IDE II (I’ve never had trouble with it being on slave, so I’ve used it as such ever since purchase (christmas 2004)

NOTE: all burnt projects are done with NERO 6.6.0.13 @ 4X or 8X if applicable.

Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1653S
Type                       : DVD±R/RW DL Recorder
Firmware Version           : CS0M
Buffer Size                : 2 MB
Date                       : 2005-03-10
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :  2005/03/10 15:53    
Drive Letter               : F:\
Location                   : 1:1
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 48  X
Write Speed                : 48  X

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : No
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : Yes
Read DVD+RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R DL              : Yes
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : Yes
Write CD-RW                : Yes
Write DVD-R                : Yes
Write DVD-RW               : Yes
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : Yes
Write DVD+RW               : Yes
Write DVD+R DL             : Yes
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : Yes
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96

Region Protection Control  : RPC II
Region                     : 1
Changes User               : 4
Changes Vendor             : 4

Why does my write speed say 48X?!

On a side note, I bought the same drive a week before this one, and it arrived DOA. I always thought it was becuase it was shipped ground, and was damaged, but maybe Liteon just has a whole mess of trashy DVD burners.
Well…ummm…anybody?
Thank you.
:frowning:


#2

Well, I dug a little deeper on here and found my answer :frowning:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=134418&highlight=dvd

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=136362&highlight=dvd

Great…


#3

UPDATE:
Ok: It reads CD-R and CD-RW and it reads DVD-R…but no DVD+R
Its also reads “retail” DVD’s
And I found out that those maxell’s are really called “PRODISK”
(at least the DVD-R I could scan was)

Here’s my kprobe:

So why no +R ?
Any suggestions would be great :bow:


#4

you should scan @4x, it’s the forum standard for comparison. the kprobe result doesn’t look good…

try some different +r disc-brands.


#5

All I have are about six of those memorex’s or “prodisc” (maxell was a typo)
My Imation +R’s won’t read anymore either.
Up till now I have had great results with memorex @4X at $1 a pop at wall-mart (5 pack) I had no reason to complain untill now.
Why after 6 months of no-trouble burns would this thing crap out :confused:
Dirty? I used a disk cleaner, but I found a link that says you have to take it apart for a good cleaning:
http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/cleaning_your_dvd_drive.htm

ANyway, here’s my 4X KPROBE:

And here’s a complete nero info:

Nero InfoTool 3.00

Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : ASUS     CD-S520/A       
Type                       : CD-ROM Drive
Firmware Version           : 2.0K
Buffer Size                : 128 KB
Date                       : ?
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :    C0020830
Drive Letter               : E:\
Location                   : 1:0
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 52 , 51 , 50 , 49 , 48 , 47 , 46 , 45 , 44 , 43 , 42 , 41 , 40 , 39 , 38 , 37 , 36 , 35 , 34 , 33 , 32 , 31 , 30 , 29 , 28 , 27 , 26 , 25 , 24 , 23 , 22 , 21 , 20 , 19 , 18 , 17 , 16 , 15 , 14 , 13 , 12 , 11 , 10 , 9 , 8 , 7 , 6 , 5 , 4  X
Write Speed                :  n/a

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : No
Read DVD-RAM               : No
Read DVD-R                 : No
Read DVD-RW                : No
Read DVD+R                 : No
Read DVD+RW                : No
Read DVD+R DL              : No
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : No
Write CD-RW                : No
Write DVD-R                : No
Write DVD-RW               : No
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : No
Write DVD+RW               : No
Write DVD+R DL             : No
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : No
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : n/a


Disc Information (E:\)
-------------------
Type                   : Data CD (Mode 1)
Capacity               : 28:36.56  (251 MB)
Tracks                 : 1
Sessions               : 1

File System            : ISO9660, Joliet
Title                  : NSESS5_0WE
Date                   : 17 August 2000
Publisher              : n/a
Application            : n/a


Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1653S
Type                       : DVD±R/RW DL Recorder
Firmware Version           : CS0M
Buffer Size                : 2 MB
Date                       : 2005-03-10
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :  2005/03/10 15:53    
Drive Letter               : F:\
Location                   : 1:1
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 16.0 , 12.0 , 8.0 , 6.0 , 4.0 , 2.0 , 1.0  X
Write Speed                : 1.0  X

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : No
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : Yes
Read DVD+RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R DL              : Yes
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : Yes
Write CD-RW                : Yes
Write DVD-R                : Yes
Write DVD-RW               : Yes
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : Yes
Write DVD+RW               : Yes
Write DVD+R DL             : Yes
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : Yes
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96

Region Protection Control  : RPC II
Region                     : 1
Changes User               : 4
Changes Vendor             : 4

Disc Information (F:\)
-------------------
Type                   : DVD Video (DVD-R)
Capacity               : 4.36 GB
Layers                 : 1
Version                : 5
Disc Size              : 12 cm
Video Format           : NTSC 16:9 (Mpeg 2, 720x480)
Region(s)              : All
Play Time              : 141 minutes (02:21:31)

File System            : ISO9660, UDF
Title                  : KING_ARTHUR
Date                   : 25 December 2004
Publisher              : n/a
Application            : n/a


Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : AXV      CD/DVD-ROM      
Type                       : DVD-ROM Drive
Firmware Version           : 2.2a
Buffer Size                : 512 KB
Date                       : ?
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :  týí
Drive Letter               : G:\
Location                   : 2:0
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 32 , 8  X
Write Speed                :  n/a

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : Yes
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : Yes
Read DVD+RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R DL              : No
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : No
Write CD-RW                : No
Write DVD-R                : No
Write DVD-RW               : No
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : No
Write DVD+RW               : No
Write DVD+R DL             : No
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : No
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : n/a

Region Protection Control  : RPC II
Region                     : 1
Changes User               : 4
Changes Vendor             : 4

Disc Information (G:\)
-------------------
Type                   : - no disc inserted -


Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description           : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description           : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company               : Microsoft Corporation
Version               : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description           : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description           : Master: ST3120026A
Type                  : Disk Drive
DMA                   : On
Description           : Slave: WDC AC315300D
Type                  : Disk Drive
DMA                   : On

Adapter 2
---------
Description           : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description           : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company               : Microsoft Corporation
Version               : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description           : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description           : Master: ASUS CD-S520/A
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
DMA                   : On
Autorun               : On
Description           : Slave: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1653S
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
DMA                   : On
Autorun               : On

Adapter 3
---------
Description           : A347SCSI SCSI Controller

Driver
Description           : System32\Drivers\a347scsi.sys
Company               :  
Version               : 3.47.0.0 built by: WinDDK
Description           : SCSI miniport

Attached Devices
Description           : ID 0 (0): AXV     CD/DVD-ROM      2.2a
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
Autorun               : On





ASPI Information
----------------
System ASPI      :  ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL     :  4.71 (0002) 45056 bytes July 17, 2002
ASPI32.SYS       :  4.71 (0002) 16877 bytes July 17, 2002
WINASPI.DLL      :  n/a 4455 bytes July 17, 2002
WOWPOST.EXE      :  n/a 3535 bytes July 17, 2002

Nero ASPI        :  ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL     :  2.0.1.74 164112 bytes January 21, 2005

Installed OS Patches
--------------------
(Q810090) USB Update                                                                                                                                :  Yes
(Q329112) Multi-Border DVD with More Than 4 GB of Data Not Readable Past First Border                                                               :  Yes
(Q812415) Problems with Multiple ATA devices                                                                                                        :  Yes
(Q322359) Intelide.sys Is Not Used on Computers with ICH4 or ICH5                                                                                   :  No
(Q320174) IMAPI Update - CDs recorded have missing files or errors                                                                                  :  Yes
(Q311542) Devices May not power up properly when resuming from standby                                                                              :  Yes
(Q327086) Data Added to Removable Media During Hibernation May Be Lost When You Resume Windows XP                                                   :  Yes
(Q308374) Ricoh 1394 Controller May Not Work with Windows XP                                                                                        :  No
(Q314634) Windows XP Does Not Detect Your New USB Device                                                                                            :  Yes
(Q822603) USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 update                                                                                                                :  Yes
(Q323507) Your IEEE 1394 or USB CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive May Not Be Recognized in Windows XP                                                         :  No
(Q815834) 'Code 28' Error Message and a Yellow Exclamation Mark Next to a USB Device in Device Manager After Your Computer Resumes from Hibernation                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                :  No
(Q316575) Problems When You Swap a CD-ROM During Hibernation in Windows XP                                                                          :  No
(Q811789) Surprise Removal of 1394 Device Can Cause Bluescreen Error                                                                                :  No
(Q323322) Cannot Use Sony VAIO PCG-C1MRX Internal Camera with Windows Messenger After You Apply Q316397                                             :  No
(Q811789) Surprise Removal of 1394 Device Can Cause Bluescreen Error                                                                                :  No



#6

have you tried other firmwares? CS0P & BYX4 are working best for me. i use BYX4 atm, as it gives best results with my current media.


#7

Where do I get 'em? The site appears to be down:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=143047

Man talk about a bad day…and its a 111° here in northern CA.
I’ve been on this quest for 12 hrs now, and I’m tired.
I took the burner APART and cleaned the eye!..same results.
If you have any more advice I’m listening :bow:
I’ll check back here later…
Thank you!

Oh sweet:
http://codeworks.cdfreaks.com/cgmirror/


#8

Well…I tried the BYX4 and it helped with my imation disk (RICOHJPN)

But those pesky prodisc +R’s are still not showing.
Lets be honest and call a spade a spade: Liteon sucks :a
Why would my burner go from seeing +R’s to not?!!
Can anyone answer that? because I give up!!! :a
I can’t even rma this pile.
Next time I’ll put my money on something else


#9

Well, I woke up this morning after downloading nero 6.6.0.15a
and tried a burn with a +R
It worked! WTF?!
But with a buttload of errors:

now windows says its a cd-rom drive
I’m done with this pile of shit!
sigh :sad:


#10

It seems like your not the only one with this problem. I also have a 1633S but i didnt crossflashed it to 1653S. Original I had the BS0K firmware and I upgraded it to BS0S. The problem began at that moment. DVDs are being burned but when I pop it back in the dvd drive, the drive simply reply “Please insert disc”. I also have this drive like 6 months ago, everything burned without a problem until I upgraded the firmware. If you are able to fix this please let me now. Or if someone is kind to provide me help…please :slight_smile:


#11

HI, Well, it still won’t read DVD+R’s but it will burn 'em.

So here’s the final verdict: Won’t read DVD+R, reads/writes cd-r/rw,
writes DVD-R.

So no read DVD+R…yeah :Z

I’m gonna buy a pioneer.


#12

Ok man I read all your post… I think the same way here in Costa Rica. Here in ALL the computer´s store´s only sell LiteOns!!!

The problem is even worst because here the Pioneer´s and Asus are way too expensive!.

I got the 1633S (piece of crap) in december 2004, It burn EVERYTHING… all the stuff, CD/DVD-+R/DVD+RW. But in April i installed some version of Nero that now I cant remember, that was the beginning of the end…

The burner ruined my 10 packs of my RitekG04 DVD-R (here sold as Ridata)… ruined my DVD-RW Imation!. So I took it to the place I buy my computer and the guy just updated the Nero to 6.6.0.15!, and the piece of crap worked burning a DVD+R!

Then I come to my house and tried to burn Spiderman I using a RITEKG04 DVD+R and… was a bad burn… now my burner don´t burn the DVD+R and DVD-R and failed burning with media of 4X - 8X speed

So i read and make post in the forum and upgrade to 1653, using CS0K firmware, and the most important thing… ERASE TOTALLY MY EEPROM. (I kept the EEPROM of my 1633S and 1653).

Some day I use the LG DVD-R 4X and WOW it Worked!!!, Tried with a mod of that firmware that make the G04´s burn at 2X (PS2 backups) but NADA!

And three weeks ago I decided with the Egitals!(Taiyo Yuden) 8X DVD-R and WOW!. Succesfull copy of PS2 game!. Tried with the DVD+R 8X and WOW burned Spiderman and plays even in the PS2!. And now I can use the Ritek GO5 and got succesfull burns!