***LiteOn Burn Quality Hall of Fame***

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#1

Requirements

SL Rules:

  • Minimum burn speed; 12x
  • Minimum data burned; 4400MB
  • Maximum PI Error value; 10, total PIE max. 20.000
  • Maximum PI Failures value; 2 for Samsung/Lite-On drives, 4 for BenQ’s
    total 150 PIF for LiteOn and 300 PIF for Benq
  • Maximum jitter is <10%
  • Standard scanning speed; 4x for LiteOn and 8x for Benq
  • Submit Transfer Rate Test when available

DL Rules:

  • Minimum burning speed of 4X
  • Minimum data burned; 6000MB
  • Maximum PI Error value; 20, total PIE max. 40.000
  • Maximum PI Failures value; 2
  • Maximum PI Failure total; 500
  • Maximum is <10% jitter
  • Standard scanning speed; 4x for LiteOn and 8x for Benq
  • Submit Transfer Rate Test when available

Taken from Samsung’s HOF by Pinto2 with some modifications :flower:

Here is an example and a contribution :wink:

Panasonic TYG03 GH000157 burnt with Benq DW2000@DH20A4P Stock 9P57 @16x with Imgburn


#2

Nice…close thread :bigsmile:


#3

[QUOTE=Bob;2005092]Nice…close thread :bigsmile:[/QUOTE]

That was what I thought :bigsmile:

I should have saved it for later ;):stuck_out_tongue:


#4

Minimum burn speed of 12x? What’s the point of that? Afraid the slow burns will beat you? :stuck_out_tongue:


#5

LH-20A1H>20A4H.QP53.patched-fbl-eos-eoht

GQ (Great Quality) SONYD21

ImgBurn 2.3.2.0 - Average Write Rate: 13,522 KB/s (9.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 16,830 KB/s (12.2x)

FHT/OHT/OS/SB all enabled


#6

Videoguard MCC02RG20 @ 12x OVERSPEED!!! :eek:
20A4P Stock firmware & default settings in PHC 500BC external enclosure via 1394
BTW: This burner overspeeds verb -R (8x & 16X) & T.Y. + R (8x T02) very well
5273 Pie :eek: :eek:





#7

Wow not bad! MCC02RG20 usually hates being oversped but I see that liteons strategy is to gradually speed up to 12x and eventually 12x near the end, which is probably the best way to go about it.


#8

[QUOTE=cd pirate;2011714]Minimum burn speed of 12x? What’s the point of that? Afraid the slow burns will beat you? :p[/QUOTE]

12x seems to be the sweet spot for most burners/media combinations
The Samsung HOF thread also has this rule :wink:

Some very nice scans here :clap:

Maybe 150 maximum PIF is little harsh , so I would like any Mod to make it 300 :bigsmile:


#9

I would make the max errors for a liteon 500 and 1000 for BenQ :stuck_out_tongue:


#10

[QUOTE=minaelromany;2014062]12x seems to be the sweet spot for most burners/media combinations
The Samsung HOF thread also has this rule :wink:

Some very nice scans here :clap:

Maybe 150 maximum PIF is little harsh , so I would like any Mod to make it 300 :bigsmile:[/QUOTE]

No I don’t think it’s harsh it’s the “Hall of Fame” I mean come on if you set it higher then we might as well post in the “20A4P post your scans and questions here” thread!! :slight_smile:


#11

[quote=jcusimano2;2014552]No I don’t think it’s harsh it’s the “Hall of Fame” I mean come on if you set it higher then we might as well post in the “20A4P post your scans and questions here” thread!![/quote]I agree! The HOF should be limited to only the very best. :iagree:


#12
  • Minimum burn speed; 12x

This invalidates DL burning, could you make a appendix with exception for DL burns? For example : for 2.4x certificated, 4x burn, and 8x cert, 6x minimum.


#13

[QUOTE=larc919;2014667]I agree! The HOF should be limited to only the very best. :iagree:[/QUOTE]

:iagree: It should be challenging to get into the HOF… possibly only a change for DL media.


#14

Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here …yet :bigsmile:

I’d suggest these rules for DL burning :

-Minimum burning speed of 4X
-Maximum PIF <1000 total
-Preferably scanned with older Benq 1640/165x (for Jitter) @8X
-Maximum 10% jitter

Unfortunately , I don’t have any other HOF worthy scans with other MIDs than Panny TYG03 , so I will only post scans of better numbers than the first one :wink:
Maybe when I get some OPTODISCs :slight_smile:


#15

[quote=minaelromany;2014882]Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here …yet :bigsmile:[/quote]It took everybody a while to regain consciousness and pick themselves up off the floor after seeing your post #1 scan. :flower:


#16

Judging jitter by it’s maximum is flawed, you need to judge by average since spikes can happen.

Also, jitter scanning on DL can only really be done on a BenQ. I really cbf seeing a whole bunch of half jitter scans done by liteons here. Anyone with a liteon might as well ignore scanning jitter on DL discs because scanning the second layer doesn’t work and the second layer is mostly where the highest errors and jitter are.


#17

Sorry i’ve kept out of here since i cannot compete but the rest of you need to post some scans beings how you want to change the rules :bigsmile:

All type and no scans…

Edit:
Ok i’ll burn a few and see what i can do…but i doubt i can compete.


#18

[QUOTE=larc919;2014969]It took everybody a while to regain consciousness and pick themselves up off the floor after seeing your post #1 scan. :flower:[/QUOTE]

LOL :bigsmile:

[QUOTE=cd pirate;2014983]Judging jitter by it’s maximum is flawed, you need to judge by average since spikes can happen.

Also, jitter scanning on DL can only really be done on a BenQ. I really cbf seeing a whole bunch of half jitter scans done by liteons here. Anyone with a liteon might as well ignore scanning jitter on DL discs because scanning the second layer doesn’t work and the second layer is mostly where the highest errors and jitter are.[/QUOTE]

Well , by Maximum Jitter = <10% I meant maximum “Average” Jitter but I now think it should be stated : "Average Jitter = <9%
I also stated in the previous post that DL scanning should be performed by Benq burners @8X because I am aware of the famous DL/Jitter/LiteOn/Second Layer dilemma :smiley:

[QUOTE=Bob;2014984]Sorry i’ve kept out of here since i cannot compete but the rest of you need to post some scans beings how you want to change the rules :bigsmile:

All type and no scans…

Edit:
Ok i’ll burn a few and see what i can do…but i doubt i can compete.[/QUOTE]

C’mon Bob , I am sure you have some spindles of very good quality media , just dig them out :wink: or maybe you want to have a better scan :stuck_out_tongue:


#19

Well i have burned 3 of my best at least i thought best and i come no where near these requirements so on to burning and scanning to find the holy grail…:bigsmile:


#20

[QUOTE=minaelromany;2014882]Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here …yet :bigsmile:

I’d suggest these rules for DL burning :

-Minimum burning speed of 4X
-Maximum PIF <1000 total
-Preferably scanned with older Benq 1640/165x (for Jitter) @8X
-Maximum 10% jitter

Unfortunately , I don’t have any other HOF worthy scans with other MIDs than Panny TYG03 , so I will only post scans of better numbers than the first one :wink:
Maybe when I get some OPTODISCs :)[/QUOTE]
I think it would be smart to keep PIF to 200 or less, if anything raise PIE. Maximum average jitter of 9 sounds like a good idea too.