For one, you are entitled to your opinion, and you can keep bashing liteon and making false accusations about "out of spec" but just because you got a lemon doesn't mean all the drives are like that. A friend of mine tried to purchase a Pioneer from BestBuy a while back it was brand new sealed in its box and never returned and it was failing from the start, sent it back and got a new drive worked fine and after a month use died, he finally got an LG. The same way you can end up with a bad liteon. People are entitled to hate liteon - I have used liteon burners since the days of the 411S, and it's not true that I never saw a liteon die.......My LITEON 1633 no longer reads CDs and does not write any CD above 8x (failing CD laser diode), but the DVD part still works.........Now I am using my 20A1P - Those liteon drives have made me lots of money and thousands of burns, well over 700 on my 1633 alone and still working, up to my 400th on my 20A1P and still working. The shop I buy my supplies from has tons of those liteons on the shelf and so far they have never gotten one complaint or return. You can say that the drives are poorly built but don't say they are out of spec - they DO the job and burn CDs and DVDs well - It is possible that the pioneer will burn some media with a lower jitter level, but so far of the thousands of discs I burnt I have not had ONE complaint.