LG GSA-4163 - 6x/8x RW Media & Burns just in

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#1

Enjoy.

:smiley:


#2

This burner seems truly the new speed demon at both 6x and 8x even, amazing!


#3

Thanks!

Hm. There are always people saying there are no reviews. Yet it’s so silent when the first things are reported right here. And they’ve also beenvery good results. :sad:

Hardwarezone.com seems to be a lot more active and creative for LG drives.


#4

Well, HWZ thrives on paid sponsorship so we have to be sensitive to what we post there sometimes. I think you should be able to understand this since you are Asian and know all about giving face… hence, some details have been omitted (sadly, it’s a painful decision on my part).

Cheers.

:slight_smile:


#5

OK, after a few burns, it’s confirmed that 12x is done z-CLV as well, averages around 6 mins 30s burn times.


#6

Now for some SL burns.

I 03:08:34 Operation Started!
I 03:08:34 Source File: G:\DVDs\SIDE_A_16X9LB_ASIA.MDS
I 03:08:34 Source File Sectors: 2,197,856 (MODE1/2048)
I 03:08:34 Source File Size: 4,501,209,088 bytes
I 03:08:34 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A100 (E: ) (ATA)
I 03:08:34 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 8x, 12x)
I 03:08:34 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 03:08:34 Write Mode: DVD
I 03:08:34 Write Speed: MAX
I 03:08:34 Test Mode: No
I 03:08:34 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 03:08:34 Filling Buffer…
I 03:08:37 Writing LeadIn…
I 03:09:05 Writing Image…
I 03:14:40 Synchronising Cache…
I 03:14:41 Closing Track…
I 03:14:43 Finalising Disc…
I 03:15:05 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:30
I 03:15:05 Average Write Rate: 13,160 KB/s (9.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 16,669 KB/s (12.0x)


#7

Strangely enough, my 1st MCC003 burn at 12x ended as a 6x burn instead. Well, it’s pretty fast still for a 6x burn.

I 01:32:14 Operation Started!
I 01:32:14 Source File: G:\DVDs\SIDE_A_16X9LB_ASIA.MDS
I 01:32:14 Source File Sectors: 2,197,856 (MODE1/2048)
I 01:32:14 Source File Size: 4,501,209,088 bytes
I 01:32:14 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A100 (E: ) (ATA)
I 01:32:14 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-003-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 8x, 12x)
I 01:32:14 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 01:32:14 Write Mode: DVD
I 01:32:14 Write Speed: MAX
I 01:32:14 Test Mode: No
I 01:32:14 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 01:32:14 Filling Buffer…
I 01:32:17 Writing LeadIn…
I 01:32:57 Writing Image…
I 01:41:57 Synchronising Cache…
I 01:41:58 Closing Track…
I 01:42:07 Finalising Disc…
I 01:42:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:28
I 01:42:42 Average Write Rate: 8,140 KB/s (5.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,352 KB/s (6.0x)

Still wondering if Decrypter is handling the burner correctly cos the burn speeds are read/displayed wrongly with 8x appearing twice.

HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A100 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,197,856
Size: 4,501,209,088 bytes
Time: 488:26:56 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 8x, 12x

So I switched over to Nero and got this.


#8

DL burn next, scan results seem not as good and unfortunately, that’s the last DL media I have on hand for now…

Fortunately, the Tranfer Rate looks OK read on the Liteon.


#9

btw, I used Nero to burn the DL media posted above cos Decrypter complained of SCSI sense errors when I started it with the blank media inside the LG. Last piece, no taking any chances there.

A -R burn using my last few pieces of Piodata Ritek G05 which are to me, a borderline 8x media. It ended up as a 6x burn with Nero too so the burner itself may be rather sensitive to media quality - understandble with RitekG05 but the MCC003 (original pearl top Mitsubishi) had never given me any problems before.


#10

btw, the LG GSA-4163 comes with a matching colour tray so if you get the black bezeled version, you should get a black tray. Likewise with the beige, dunno about the silver ones but previous silver LG models come with beige trays too, IIRC.

The bezel is designed to be easily swapped, took me just a few minutes testing the swapping procedure on 2 drives.

So far, my first few hours with the burner have been very pleasant save for a few minor & fixable misgivings. Hopefully, LG can improve on the burner with later firmware releases.

INITIAL DISLIKES

  1. Booktype
    Comes configured for +R booktypes as default for both SL and DL +R media, why don’t they do as BenQ does? Less grief for noobs. Had no problems setting this right with Decrypter though but totally no booktyping for RW presently.

  2. Average Ripping Capability
    No RPC1 capability.
    Had some problems handling CSS on a DL kids’ edutainment movie DVD (Channel4 “The Blue Dragon”) which the Liteon 1653S did easily.

  3. Heat
    Gets noticeably warm to the touch after some time reading and burning, nothing alarming though.

  4. External Support
    Like the Benq DW16xx series, the LG firmware is not as compatible as other burners (eg. NEC 3500) when used externally. I have only tried with a IDE-USB bridge for now.

:slight_smile:


#11

heheh, 24x CDRW Create Disk - done z-CLV, rather fast too.


#12

Any hopes on bitsetting with this drive like they did with the 4120?


#13

Jamos, pls check Point 1 under the Dislikes post.

To reiterate, you can set +R, SL and DL, to ROM but not RW media. Default is +R out of the box, so noobs had been complaining that their DL burns are not recognised in their DVD players.


#14

Well, I talk about those things sometimes here actually. I fully understand though I don’t know the details of HWZ. (Not really necessary.) :iagree:

Different cultures, different ways of doing business, different money, different values, different ways of accounting… I also considered talking about the South Korean way of accounting at LG, Samsung, Daewoo, Hyundai, SK, and many other biggest companies. Illegal but more than legal at the same time in South Korea on a scale of hundreds of billions in USD. :frowning:

  1. External Support
    Like the Benq DW16xx series, the LG firmware is not as compatible as other burners (eg. NEC 3500) when used externally. I have only tried with a IDE-USB bridge for now.

That looks like the first thing in need of fix.


#15

Damm i should have waited this brun seems awesome


#16

printed D5 movie DVD rip, seems riplocked at 8x.

I 12:35:43 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.1.0 started!
I 12:35:43 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 12:35:43 Initialising SPTI…
I 12:35:43 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 12:35:44 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 3 DVD±RWs and 1 DVD-RAM/±RW!
I 12:35:52 Operation Started!
I 12:35:52 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A100 (E: ) (ATA)
I 12:35:52 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 12:35:52 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 12:35:52 Source Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 12:35:52 Destination File: G:\DVDs\FAKEDISC.ISO
I 12:35:52 File Splitting: Auto
I 12:35:52 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 12:35:52 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 12:35:52 Extracting Sectors… (LBA: 0 - 2178687)
I 12:35:53 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 320 - 323)
I 12:35:53 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 352 - 355)
I 12:35:53 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 384 - 419)
I 12:35:53 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 448 - 3706) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:35:55 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 3712 - 527998) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:39:01 Found VOB File: VTS_01_2.VOB - (LBA: 527999 - 1052285) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:41:21 Found VOB File: VTS_01_3.VOB - (LBA: 1052286 - 1576572) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:43:19 Found VOB File: VTS_01_4.VOB - (LBA: 1576573 - 2100859) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:45:02 Found VOB File: VTS_01_5.VOB - (LBA: 2100860 - 2178577) - KEY: D5 B1 32 BC C3
I 12:45:17 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 2178592 - 2178627)
I 12:45:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:24
I 12:45:17 Average Read Rate: 7,725 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 11,096 KB/s (8.0x)


#17

The present A100 fw does seem to have some compatibilty issues - with Decrypter, CD Speed Create Disc function…

Tried twice burning the MCC003 with Decrypter at Max speeds and both ended as 6x burns (~10 min 30s) while 2 burns with Nero at 12x were done at 12x properly (~6 min 30s).

Doing “Create Disk” on CDSpeed on a TDK (Ricoh) 4x+R hanged the whole PC near the completion of the disc creation (also tried twice). A hard reset didn’t help and I had to recycle the power to retrieve the disc. To confirm, I redid the test with the TDK+RW on the LTN 1653S and it worked just fine.


#18

A printed DL movie rip, hit 8x.

I 13:23:59 Operation Started!
I 13:23:59 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A100 (E: ) (ATA)
I 13:23:59 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 13:23:59 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4
I 13:23:59 Source Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 13:23:59 Destination File: G:\DVDs\DVD_VIDEO.ISO
I 13:23:59 File Splitting: Auto
I 13:23:59 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 13:23:59 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 13:23:59 Extracting Sectors… (LBA: 0 - 3534847)
I 13:24:00 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 480 - 491)

… blah blah blah…

I 13:39:43 Found BUP File: VTS_13_0.BUP - (LBA: 3534784 - 3534792)
I 13:39:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:44
I 13:39:43 Average Read Rate: 7,489 KB/s (5.4x) - Maximum Read Rate: 11,051 KB/s (8.0x)


#19

It is very disappointed that no 8x media can @16x with current firmware.


#20

CMC 16x dvd+r on LG4163B
4466mb
nero 6601


it seems that CMCMAG01 is not a very good quality media. kprobe is quite ok, perhaps tdk1616DLN does not like CMC