LDW 851S dead?

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#1

Ok, I need some serious help here sadly.

This morning I tried burning a dvd, simple work, stick in writer, backup, burn. Worked perfectly except the DVD skipped. I learnt this was down to a scratched DVD.

However attempts since then of different dvds have all resulted in a nice DVD coaster because I keep getting some kind of error while burning. THe backup files are fine, I’ve tested them on the computer, the source dvd is fine and like I said, I’ve used different DVDs but is getting different errors under different software.

DVD Shrink says it can’t write the lead-out.
Nero had some data error problem.
DVD shrink had the one below, the only one I’ve been able to save.

I don’t know what it is and I haven’t changed anything. Normally its such a simple process so I don;'t know what going wrong :frowning:

Any help is appreciated

I am using Infiniti Samurai DVDs. Also, even though it will read these discs, if I put a blank in, it recognises the disc is there but gives no details on its storage capacity, it just says 0 space free 0 space used.

My DVD drive is DVDRW LDW-851S Firmware version GS08

I don’t know if this will helpb ut just tried again with DVD Shrink and got this.

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 17/06/2003 14:25:04 
Nero API version: 6.0.0.11
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S> Version: GS08 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.0.0.11
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST3120023A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On 
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral : MITSUMI CR-48XCTE atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 291MB (298400kB)
Memory in use : 43 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

6.1.2005
NeroAPI
03:43:09 #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files reallocation started

03:43:09 #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

03:43:09 #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files sorted

03:43:10 #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

03:43:10 #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 127
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S running

03:43:10 #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

03:43:10 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

03:43:10 #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

03:45:43 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 228
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37)
Last address to be written: 2286114 (508:01.39)

03:45:43 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 233
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

03:45:43 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1722
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY04 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

03:45:43 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 768
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286115 (2286115) = #2286115/508:1.40
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos 
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286115 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

03:45:43 #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 937
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 4682270720, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286115 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

03:45:43 #14 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Caching of files started

03:45:43 #15 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Caching of files completed

03:45:43 #16 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

03:45:43 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2130
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

03:45:43 #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1485
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

03:45:43 #19 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18878
Set BUFE: supported -> ON , Generic write control : ON

03:45:43 #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1600
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

03:45:43 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7906
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

03:45:53 #22 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 318
03:45:53.171 - LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S : Queue again later (Intervall : 11msec)

03:50:47 #23 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1415
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x01430000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x0B 0x0B 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 

03:50:47 #24 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 335
Write error

03:50:48 #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 227
all writers idle, stopping conversion

03:50:49 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 221
conversion idle, stopping reader

03:50:49 #27 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Burn process failed at 4x (5,520 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.0.0.171 , size=24839 bytes, created 13/01/2003 09:19:26 
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.20, size=57344 bytes, created 04/02/2003 08:24:08 
File 'Drivers\Tpp200.sys': Ver=5.04.1150.0 , size=35541 bytes, created 05/10/2001 12:54:28 
File 'Drivers\Tpp300.sys': Ver=5.04.1150.0 , size=33669 bytes, created 05/10/2001 12:54:28 
File 'Drivers\Tpp725.sys': Ver=5.04.1150.0 , size=43269 bytes, created 05/10/2001 12:54:28 

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

It did manage to print one the other day but I just tried armageddon which resulted in another coaster. Ive lost a load of dvds on this basically. I tried burning a cd-r and it failed the first time but worked the second.

Any help is appreciated.


#2

Haven’t changed the media? (used exact same media batch as before?)

Maybe the drive’s lens requires some cleaning? shrug


#3

I’m using the same infiniti batch of media and I cleaned the lens as well. The first disc I ever tried of this batch, EVER, worked fine but it was scratched so the film was screwed and I needed to make another copy.

From htere I lost something like 7 cds until 1 worked again. Then I tried to burn another film just now and it failed once again :frowning:


#4

Are these discs that you burned scannable? If so, then could you post a KProbe scan of one of these failed discs? If you’re not sure what I mean by that, see the “Attaching Scans” link in my sig for details.

I might also note that your firmware is extremely old (about a year old now, in fact). But the fact that your drive burned this exact media type just fine in the past makes it a bit unlikely that it is the cause of the problem.


#5

I tried to look for a new firmware, the GSoP I think it was, was all I could find on the official site. I haven’t even had the drive 6 months so im surprised its that outdated.

Oh, just so I know, after the test is my dvd a coaster?

Disc Info

Disc Type DVD-R
Book Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Sony Corporation
Media ID SONY04D1
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 4.38 GB
Free Size 4.38 GB
Free Blocks 2297888
Number of Layers 1
Linear Density 0.267 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 2.4x
Maximum Write Speed 4.0x
Current Write Speed 4.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 4.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2 2.0x CLV

Drive Info

VID LITE-ON
PID DVDRW LDW-851S
F/W Revision GS0P
Date Code 2004/10/15 15:46
FlashROM Manufacturer ID C2
FlashROM Device ID 38
FlashROM Type MXIC(MX29LV081)(+3.3V)
Region Region free

Result

Date : 09/01/2005 13:05:07
Model : 1-0-1-0 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0P
Disc : DVD-R , SONY04D1 [Sony Corporation]
Speed : Max
Scanned range : 0 - 231000h
ADER Max : 48.8
ADER Average : 76.00
ADER Total : 5457523
Cont. Max : 15
Cont. Average : 0.27
Cont. Total : 19134

PIF Result

Date : 09/01/2005 13:52:54
Model : 1-0-1-0 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0P
Disc : DVD-R , SONY04D1 [Sony Corporation]
Speed : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 2297843
Sampling count : 127366
Errors : 0
PI Max : 406
PI Average : 55.17
PI Total : 952606
PIF Max : 207
PIF Average : 1.62
PIF Total : 27917





#6

bump^


#7

Hi. I have gotten similar error messages on my 851 when I tried to burn media that was rated at 2x, but was really only 1x. (The disc identified itself as 2x capable, but the box it came in was sold as 1x.) Some of the media would burn at 2x, but a lot of it wouldn’t. The media would even burn fine at 2x in a 411, just not in the 851. Have you tried 1x and 2x burns with this media? I know the media says it’s 4x, but perhaps you have a bad batch. Or maybe the 851 firmware is just picky about the Sony media. You could try the CG4E firmware, and possibly some write strategy changes would help.

Try a couple burns at slower speeds and then Kprobe the discs if they complete a burn. (Also, set your Kprobe scan speed to 4x, it was on Max in your posts. That will help it be more comparable to wht you’ll find on the forums.)

Good luck.

:slight_smile:


#8

Hmm…where could I get the firmware?

Perhaps it is the speed, pain is it doesn’t seem to say on the dvds what it is. I’ll have to try the site of the place I bought it.


#9

They’re meant to be 8x. I dunno though because I tried 2 and 4x during its messing about to see if that worked. Maybe it hates sony dvds…

I’ll have tot ry and find some firmware.


#10

Could you redo your KProbe scan (only the BLER scan is needed; ignore the rest) at 4x speed?


#11

Date : 10/01/2005 15:53:19
Model : 1-0-1-0 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0P
Disc : DVD-R , SONY04D1 [Sony Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 2297852
Sampling count : 129656
Errors : 0
PI Max : 445
PI Average : 99.31
PI Total : 1686011
PIF Max : 206
PIF Average : 3.79
PIF Total : 64341



#12

^ Bump


#13

I thought the Sony 04D1 discs were only rated to burn at 4x. They are -R discs are they not? The GS0P firmware only lists 2 and 4x write strategies for the 04D1, so if you have managed to get it to try burning them at 8x, that might be the problem. On the discs you burned at 2 and 4x while messing about, did they finish ok? Do you have one of those you can Kprobe scan?

If you check Code65535’s sig in his message you’ll see the link to the Code Guys website, where you can find links to tools and firmware. I’m using the CG4E for 851@832 on my 851 and it’s been working great.

Keep at it, I’m sure you’ll figure something out.

:slight_smile:


#14

I tried following it but can’t tell which firmware is newer.

From the looks of it, if I used the VS01/VS03/VS05 firmware on my LDW-851S then it would upgrade to 832?

LiteOn SOHW-832S (Looking for 451S@832S, 851S@832S, or 812S@832S?)
• VS01/VS03/VS05 - stock - unscrambled (old) (dhc014)
• VS04/VS08/VS0A/VS0B - stock - unscrambled (old)
• VS0E - stock - unscrambled
• VS0E - patched - crossflashing (for 451S, 851S, 812S, etc.)
• CG2B/CG3B/CG3E - patched - improved +R burn quality (old)
• CG4E - patched - improved burn quality (for 451S, 851S, 812S, 832S, Sony 700A, etc.)


#15

CG4E is the latest and is the FW im running in my 851s, it would upgrade your drive to 832s spec apart from 8x -R burning as the 851s doesnt have the appropriate chip to burn -R at that speed other than that it would perform as an 832s


#16

GS0P is based on VS0E, actually. If he has problems writing using GS0P, I’m not sure if VS0E/CG4E would help. The CG4E -R recalibrates might help. But I’m not sure if that’d do the trick.

Have you tried to reset the EEPROM learn data? (see the stickied tool collection’s EEPROM Utility)


#17

I upgraded to that firmware and burned 2 dvds sucessfully, scarface and Scrooged. Now this isn’t confirmed I mean I might’ve lucked out but they both burned fine and I’ll try burning 2 more today that I’ve got ready and see how it turns out.

Scrooged DID stop once during the credits (during play) but it carried on and the movie itself seemed ok (I fast forwarded through it though) and the same goes for Scarface so it may have been a media thing.

Thankyou for your help guys especially Code, hopefully this is all taken care of now.