Not really "new" to the board, just haven't been here in a while and lost my login. I have been 'learking' for a while tho'.
My "current" fav tools: DVDShrink, CloneDVD, AnyDVD, DVDFab (for 2-discs)
In messing with the hashed and "rehashed" ways to backup my copy of 'The Forgotten', I got a chance to play more with DVDShrink 3.2 and with the way it handles menus, trailers and extras. I once again proved that the final result is best done through CloneDVD IF you're going to get rid of trailers and extras and keep a fully functional menu system at the same time.
I've used the "old" version of DVDShrink for quite a while now to pick apart my DVD's and shrink exactly what I want to shrink (i.e., leave the main movie alone as much as possible). When the newest verision 3.2 came out, I just didn't care for the controls, so I stuck with the old. After I use Shrink to get rid of extra languages and to carefully shrink everything but the main movie if possible, I use CloneDVD to create and burn my final discs.
Then came 'The Grudge' and 'The Forgotten' which required a change of plans. I did get a successful backup, but only from AnyDVD running in the background, then only through DVDShrink 3.2 (old version doesn't recognize the additional 'fake' vob's).
After doing a run with Shrink 3.2, I found something I didn't realize the first time I ran through it, I could replace trailers and extras with a still photo. So, I replaced them with a cool "video removed" photo and burned my disc.
The Forgotten has 3 trailers that run at the beginning of the disc, and when the "video removed" picture came up.... it ran first for 3min, then for 4min, etc... the length of the original trailers! YES, I KNOW I could just tap the 'menu' button on my remote, but I was used to how CloneDVD handles this, it just skips by them. Once I was at the main menu, I clicked on some extras and saw that the "video removed" picture once again sits there for the DURATION of whatever it was that it replaced, until you go back to the menu of course.
So, I took the files from the Shink 3.2 session (still on my hard drive) and ran them through CloneDVD and it's now PERFECT! CloneDVD will DELETE the trailers from the beginning of the movie (or replace them with a blank screen that passes you by VERY quickly), and if you click on any extras, the screen flashes quickly and takes you right back to the menu again. Perfect.
Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to show how I successfully backed up The Grudge and The Forgotten... and how much better CloneDVD handles trailers and extras, if you don't want them. In my opinion, it's MUCH better than DVDShrink in those aspects.
A big thanks to everyone involved in all this great software! With the next phase of "protection" about to be thrown at us, I'm sure 97% of us will be searching out the 3% brilliant programmers that will be getting us out of the mess the studios create.