Is this writing time fine?

Hi guys :slight_smile:
A few months ago I bougth a Philips 1660, it worked fine until a couple of weeks…Normally it would need +/- 7min to burn a full dvd, and now its 12min plus (sometimes 20min!).
I use the same burning programa (Nero 6, I tried nero 7 and its still the same) and same DVD media that when I recorded a dvd in 7min.
Is my burner damaged in some away?What could it be?
I don’t now if it is important, but the burner has benq firmware since the first day

Sorry for my bad english

Cheers :slight_smile:

Check if DMA is enabled. Sometimes Windows reverts to PIO without any warning.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101616

Moreover, I suggest to do a defrag of your HDD

Hi, thanks for answering :slight_smile:
DMA is enabled, my partition doesn’t need to be defragmented (at least is what diskeeper says), also my HD is new, it should be quicker than my old one ( i think)

hmm…

Can you do a little test?

Try to do a burn with cd-dvd speed, in “create disc” tab. In this way we can see graphically what happen during the burn. This can be very useful to discover where is the problem :slight_smile:

Hi, can I use a DVD+RW?

Yes, but if you use a rewritable media the test will be not reliable.

You are trying to check about 16x writing speed, and no RW disc can be written @16x.

If you don’t want to waste a media, you can try to burn something that you want to retain. Simply create an ISO file containing anything you want to store on a disc, and use cd-dvd speed to do the burn :slight_smile:

Here it is… 4.6X average :frowning:

Do you need something else?

Funky burn, Miguel :wink: , but your system obviously can’t handle anything more than 8X. The buffer (memoria intermedia - purple line) collapses and slows down the burn. Is your new hard disk running in DMA mode as well?

It’s a SATA HD…(a Seagate 7200.10 320GB , the older HD is a 7200.7 200GB)
I don’t understand,before it was so quick, and now :frowning:
Can it be the burner fault?

It’s more likely a problem with the hard disk setup. Check DMA settings in Device Manager (Ultra DMA Mode 6?). Maybe you need to install SATA drivers for your motherboard to make the new HD work faster.

I have a pci sata controller (its recognized as SCSI and RAID controller,which does not have DMA option), I use the same sata drivers always.
I installed a diferent XP PRO, I don’t know if it is from this XP version…
But I think it is weird that it is the XP.

New test today with 2 diferent media,diferent HD,diferent OS (Windows Vista RTM) and diferent burning software (Nero 7).

See for yourselves :frowning:

I assume you’re not multitasking when burning. This can cause buffer slowdowns especially on slower computers. It’d help if you can provide some info on your system setup, e.g CPU type and speed, size of RAM instaled, and mainboard chipset. Also on which IDE port your burner is installed, and if it’s on its own or chained with another device on a Master/slave configuration. With some mainboard chipsets (e.g. older VIA ones) the burner setup is important.

… It’d help if you can provide some info on your system setup, e.g CPU type and speed, size of RAM instaled, and mainboard chipset.
cpu-z (freeware) will give you all answers needed.
Also on which IDE port your burner is installed, and if it’s on its own or chained with another device on a Master/slave configuration. With some mainboard chipsets (e.g. older VIA ones) the burner setup is important.
Post us output from NeroInfo Tool, bundled with your Nero burning software (Nero Toolkit). Also adding direct link to InfoTool download.
Post Info Tool output (.txt) file in [ CODE ] wraps. Remove serial number.

BTW, you can also check your systems tranfer and burst capacity with test linked in my signature.

Was your old HD SATA too, [B]Miguel86[/B]? I’m thinking the new SATAII HD may not be compatible with your PCI controller card. Which chip does it use?

The tests on windows Vista was on the old 200GB sata HD.
The new HD is a sata II but with a jumper it works as Sata I.

My Pc is a P4 1.7GHz, using 4 PC800 128MB rimms, in a DFI NT-70 SC (Intel chipset)

Nero InfoTool 3.02

Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8160B
Type                       : DVD-ROM Drive
Firmware Version           : 0009
Buffer Size                : 512 KB
Date                       : ?
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :  1BUDA   01/10/20    
Drive Letter               : F:\
Location                   : 0:1
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 20 , 17 , 16 , 8 , 4  X
Write Speed                :  n/a

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : No
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : Yes
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : No
Read DVD+RW                : No
Read DVD+R DL              : No
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : No
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : No
Write CD-RW                : No
Write DVD-R                : No
Write DVD-RW               : No
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : No
Write DVD+RW               : No
Write DVD+R DL             : No
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : No
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : n/a

Region Protection Control  : RPC II
Region                     : 2
Changes User               : 4
Changes Vendor             : 4


Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : BENQ     DVD DD DW1650   
Type                       : DVD±R/RW DL Recorder
Firmware Version           : BCIC
Buffer Size                : 2 MB
Date                       : ?
Serial Number              : DL100550018785
Vendor Specific            :  DL100550018785      
Drive Letter               : E:\
Location                   : 1:0
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 48  X
Write Speed                : 48  X

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : No
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : No
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : Yes
Read DVD+RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R DL              : Yes
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : Yes
Write CD-RW                : Yes
Write DVD-R                : Yes
Write DVD-RW               : Yes
Write DVD-R DL             : Yes
Write DVD+R                : Yes
Write DVD+RW               : Yes
Write DVD+R DL             : Yes
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : Yes
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96

Region Protection Control  : RPC I
Region                     : All
Changes User
Changes Vendor


Drive Information
------------------
Drive                      : NL3505S  BHU124G         
Type                       : DVD-ROM Drive
Firmware Version           : 1.0 
Buffer Size                : 512 KB
Date                       : ?
Serial Number
Vendor Specific            :  týžîóÒwpÇm
Drive Letter               : G:\
Location                   : 3:0
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed                 : 32 , 8  X
Write Speed                :  n/a

Read CD Text               : Yes
Return C2 Pointers         : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                 : Yes
Read DVD-ROM               : Yes
Read DVD-RAM               : Yes
Read DVD-R                 : Yes
Read DVD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R                 : Yes
Read DVD+RW                : Yes
Read DVD+R DL              : No
Read BD-ROM                : No
Read BD-R                  : No
Read BD-RE                 : No
Read Digital Audio         : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD               : Yes

Write CD-R                 : No
Write CD-RW                : No
Write DVD-R                : No
Write DVD-RW               : No
Write DVD-R DL             : No
Write DVD+R                : No
Write DVD+RW               : No
Write DVD+R DL             : No
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Write BD-R                 : No
Write BD-RE                : No
Buffer Underrun Protection                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                : No
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : n/a

Region Protection Control  : RPC II
Region                     : None
Changes User               : 5
Changes Vendor             : 4


Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description           : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description           : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company               : Microsoft Corporation
Version               : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description           : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description           : Slave: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8160B
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
DMA                   : On
Autorun               : On

Adapter 2
---------
Description           : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description           : system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company               : Microsoft Corporation
Version               : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description           : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description           : Master: BENQ DVD DD DW1650
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
DMA                   : On
Autorun               : On

Adapter 3
---------
Description           : Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATALink Controller

Driver
Description           : system32\DRIVERS\SI3112.sys
Company               : Silicon Image, Inc.
Version               : 1, 3, 65, 0
Description           : Serial ATA miniport driver

Attached Devices
Description           : ID 0 (0): ST3320620AS             3.AA
Type                  : Disk Drive

Adapter 4
---------
Description           : Unknown Adapter

Driver
Description           : \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dtscsi.sys
Company               : n/a
Version               : n/a
Description           : n/a

Attached Devices
Description           : ID 0 (0): NL3505S BHU124G         1.0 
Type                  : CD-Rom Drive
Autorun               : On



Hardware Information
--------------------
CPU                  :  Intel Pentium  4 1700 MHz
Bus Speed            :  100 MHz
Motherboard          :    i850-W83627
System               :     
BIOS                 :  Award 6.00 PG
Memory               :  512 MB (7ns)
Sound                : Dispositivo wave SB Live!
Video                : LogMeIn Mirror Driver


ASPI Information
----------------
System ASPI      :  ASPI is not installed

Nero ASPI        :  ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL     :  2.0.1.74 164112 bytes October 26, 2004



Is this info enough :slight_smile: ?

Speed Test gave me 34.4X

Did you add any other PCI-cards recently? How many PCI-cards are there installed?

At the time it worked OK, was this with older firmware than BCIC?

Hi,

for troubleshooting, please uninstall Deamon Tools and similar software.

Michael

To be sincere i don’t remember !

No, 3 PCI cards installed (sound,lan and sata controller)

Daemon tools can make the burning slower?

Hmm, 34MB/s isn’t really fast for SATA and CPU usage is pretty high too. It still looks like your HD is in PIO-mode or something. Are there really no PIO/DMA/SATA settings you can check in Device Manager? The buffer can barely keep up with 4X burn speed.

What is your “Burst Rate” for the burner in CD-DVD Speed?

Could you do a “Create Disc” and post the graph? (With a DVD-R you can check “Simulate” without actually burning to the disc.)