Is this procedure good?

As title says… Am I doing things right or is there anywhere I can improve?

This is for the backup of a movie to a single layer DVD-R

  1. Rip DVD Using DVD Decrypter
  2. Remove unwanted trailers etc. using VOB Blanker.
  3. Use VOB Blanker to crop logos/animations from the begining of the film (if necessary)and cut out the end credits.
  4. Use DVD Shrink and Power DVD to decide which audio/subtitle streams I want to remove.
  5. In DVD Rebuilder use 1 click mode (CCE) with best quality settings to create an ISO
  6. Burn using Nero.

What do you think?

Thanks

Tim

Why use DVD Shrink to remove audio when VOBBlanker can?

  1. DVD Decrypter is getting quickly outdated, you’ll end up needing to substitute DVDFab Decrypter in there.

  2. Why would you use Nero to burn?

Here’s what I do. I rip with DVD Decrypter with DVD43 running in the background or I rip with DVDFab, then I re-author with VOBBlanker to cut out the unwanted junk, then I open the newly re-authored file with DVDShrink, then while still in DVDShrink I click “backup” and the burn takes place using either DVD Decrypter or Nero. It will have an option via drop down menu which burning software you want to use. If I’m going to be burning the movie file only, however, I open the disc in DVDShrink right from the start without all the other extra steps.

Sorry… bit of a misunderstanding. I dont actually use DVD Shrink to remove audio streams, I let DVD Rebuilder do that. Generally once I have messed around with a DVD (cut or blanked a VOB etc.) I like to load it up in DVD Shrink just to check nothing has become corrupt etc. I didnt know VOB Blanker could remove audio streams… will have a go with that later.

Thanks for the tip about DVD Decrypter will move to DVDFab in the future. What is wrong with using Nero to burn the image?

I’d be curious to know too because I burn with Nero about half of the time. And being rather new to this I’ll take any suggestions into consideration.

Since you are creating an ISO with DVD Rebuilder you should burn with a more reliable software. If you read the DVD Rebuilder forum @ doom9 then you should know that most of the users use freeware ImgBurn located Here. Or, they burn the ISO with DVD Decrypter or some other reliable burning app. other than nero.
If you follow the link I provided you will see that ImgBurn is an app. by the developer of DVD Decrypter…looks familiar right? It is an improved burning engine based on the DVDD app. without the decrypting ability of course.

If you used DVD Rebuilder Pro. instead of DVD Rebuilder Free, you could slide show your ending credits, rather than cutting them, which is what I do.
BTW, let DVD-RB handle the audio…that is what the audio stream choices are there for.

OK, so Nero isn’t a reliable burning software then? So I will download your suggestion ImgBurn and give that a try. I’ve been burning with Nero about half of the time and DVDDecrypter the rest of the time. I did watch a movie the other night that was a really bad burn. It was one of my first burns starting out. It was very pixalated about halfway through the movie and kept freezing. I chalked it to the 8X burn speed I used or a faulty disc. I’ve since been burning at 4X only, but haven’t watched many movies to check out the results. I’ll give ImgBurn a try. Thanks. I’ll also check out that other forum.

PornMom should try better quality media and always burn at it’s rated speed most times if you burn at a slower speed that what the media is rated you will end up with a worse burn.

Nero is perfectly “reliable”. HOWEVER, it is notorious - infamous, even - for creating less-than-entirely-compatible VIDEO DVD’S. Nero is pretty much everyone’s LAST choice for burning video DVD’s. Just video, mind you - it’s fine for data. And the video DVD’s it makes are usually fine in your computer, it’s just set-top boxes that sometimes don’t like them.

Making it worse, some builds of Nero work fine, and others don’t. They seem to have some recurring bug that they keep reintroducing.

I have never had a problem with Nero or Decrypter for video burns out of Shrink! Very nice programs and use them both constantly! 300 burns on 12 different drives!

I always use quality media, but I guess there is going to be a bad disc in the batch on occassion, if indeed the problem was a bad disc. I have however heard here that you should burn a disc at half it’s rated speed. Say if the disc is an 8X disc, to burn it at 4X. Thank you for your input.

Me too, ETP. I use Nero and DVDDecrypter through DVDShrink. Except when burning music, then I use Nero by it’s self.

I use Nero7, and in the past Nero5.5, and DVD Region + CSS Free on my HP Lightscribe drive. I am easily able to backup DVD to DL-DVD, remove subtitles, trailers, extra BS that I don’t want, or just keep the whole structure and remove the restrictions (like pressing menu during preview, and bypass FBI Warnings). The movies I’ve backed-up have the same quality as the originals, and I’m not having to waste time recoding for each program that I want to use. I’ve also backed-up season DVDs without the menus, and found where Nero7 actually converts DVD’s to MPG files and stores them on your hard drive. DVD Region + CSS Free runs in the background and compliments Nero.

I have tried other software in the past, and always —> Let me Repeat that ALWAYS had problems with the software. I gave up trying to find the ultimate burning software and just learned how to use what I already had.

All versions of Nero that I’ve used have had some short comings. INCD is the worst part of Nero ever put out, and I don’t think anyone should ever use it or install it. NeroVision used to really suck, but now it’s starting to compare to the Commercial Software I use for editing video. Nero Start Smart and Home really just annoy the heck out of me and I don’t use them either.

Now, back to the procedure mentioned above. This is what I would do and have done:

  1. Start DVD Region + CSS Free and then start Nero Recode.
  2. Put DVD in the DVD Drive (I’m backing up War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise)
  3. In Nero Recode I click on Recode Main Movie to DVD, I didn’t like the extra features and I don’t want the other BS, and since the movie is 1hr and 57 min it should fit on a standard DVD.
    4.click on Import DVD and choose your DVD drive.
  4. To trim the beginning and cut off credits, click on Start/End and do the trimming
  5. Remove the unwanted audio and subtitles. (Unfortuneately War of the Worlds will not fit on 1 Standard DVD without video quality loss, so I change the setting for DVD9 and get the quality back up to 100%)
  6. Click on Next, then set your DVD Recorder. I would recommend Advanced Analysis for better quality.
  7. Click Burn. Let it do it’s thing, swap disks when asked, and there’s your copy. No extra programs needed, no excessive recoding, and no program conflicts. The quality is the same as the original, and every DVD+R or DVD+R DL has been completely compatible with the 6 different DVD boxes I tried them on.

I’ve also used Nero Express and DVD Region + CSS Free to do a straight out copy from DVD to DVD. It worked very well, and I had an exact duplicate with the exact same quality, only the restrictions and FBI warnings were removed.

Thanks! Just what we needed!

(Unfortuneately War of the Worlds will not fit on 1 Standard DVD without video quality loss, so I change the setting for DVD9 and get the quality back up to 100%)

You completely missed the point of the original posters question!

posted by pre1twa: This is for the backup of a movie to a single layer DVD-R

BTW, His procedure using and Encoder is, in almost all cases, going to produce a better backup than a Transcoder for a large movie like War of the Worlds.

For those that don’t know the difference between an Encoder and a Transcoder I suggest you google it.

Thanks! Just what we needed!

Please don’t try to speak for me.
It is not within your purview to speak for anyone here at CDFreaks but yourself, so please don’t.

Thanks from me man! :bow: :bow: :bow: I usually just use Shrink and decrypter, but that was another way to do this that I have not tried yet!

Don’t know if I did or not, but I do know for a fact that multiple recoding and transcoding causes major loss of quality in video. Pre1twa did want to use only one standard DVD for backup. He also wanted to trim the beginning and ending of the video and eliminate the extra BS. Most movies that are under 2 hours (120 minutes) will fit easily on a single DVD with the exact quality of the original, as long as there are not multiple recodes or transcodes.

BTW, His procedure using and Encoder is, in almost all cases, going to produce a better backup than a Transcoder for a large movie like War of the Worlds.

According to pretwa’s explanation, he would be encoding the same video at least 2 times. I was the one that mentioned War of the Worlds, not the original poster. Pre1twa did not mention what video he was backing up, so I pulled one off MY shelf and did a walk-through using it as an example. I am sorry that you choose not to read the posts and have some need to jump on other posters. I use only one software program which uses less Recodes or Transcodes. Less means more quality when it comes to video and much more simpler for newbies, which is what this part of the forum is about.

For those that don’t know the difference between an Encoder and a Transcoder I suggest you google it.

Good suggestion, maybe you should look it up again and see why you should NOT recode or transcode over and over again.

Please don’t try to speak for me.
It is not within your purview to speak for anyone here at CDFreaks but yourself, so please don’t.

I believe that ETP was speaking for himself and probably for other people that are looking for an easier way. It is not in your purview to speak to a senior member in that manner or with that amount of disrespect. ETP joined in Feb. 2002 and you joined just 8 months ago. (edited to add) You may also go read the rules of this forum concerning flaming posts.

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Another good link I need to add to my list!