Is this a problematic 2500A?

Hi everyone, great forum :slight_smile:

I just bought a NEC 2500A and having a bit of a problem and not sure if it’s due to the burner, the software, or the media.

I was trying to burn my first DVD with Nero 6.3.1.6. The media I used was a 4X DVD by Pro-Media, but I could only select the burning speed at 2X in Nero. I’ve tried doing the Nero CD DVD Speed test and it finish the test with 2X transfer all the way.

And the odd thing is, I tried the speed test again and when I try to stop the test half way, the burner just kept on reading and I can’t eject the DVD nor shut off the computer.

I’ve tried using my friend’s RitekG04 blank DVD and the speed test finished at 4X all the way, so I asume the problem is the media, but I’m still a bit worried that it could be a problematic drive, and in which case I need to go replace with another one.

DVDInfoPro on the media I bought:

Media code/Manufacturer ID
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps

I checked the DMA and it’s on, and the burner is on primary IDE master. The firmware is 1.06 03121900 and the program used to burn is Nero 6.3.1.6.

I’ve also did some test with a VCD that the 2500A burned, and it turned out a ton of read errors in DVDinfoPro. I then tested another VCD I made with my old LiteOn LTR-48246S and it had read erros too…
But the 2500A reads some old program CD and my friend’s data CD just fine.

So I’m really confused now and not sure if I should go back to the store and replace the drive or just get another version of the firmware. Is this drive problematic or is it just software or media issues?

I really really want to start burning those DVDs :sad:
Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks :slight_smile:

And sorry for the long post :stuck_out_tongue:

I definitely suspect a poor quality media issue in this case.
The Media code/Manufacturer ID field is blank, any media missing a mid code is usually a VERY poor quality disc…
Try some good media :bigsmile:

Thanks wesociety :slight_smile:

I’ll definitly try a different media.

Just one very newbish question, on the nero cd dvd speed test I used my friend’s RitekG04, and the speed was a constant 4X, a straight line. Does it suppose to burn like this?

Oh, and about the read error, how else can I test if my 2500A have read problems or not? So far I’ve tried putting in
1 VCD Nero/2500A burned - read error
1 VCD Nero/LiteOn burned - read error
1 Program CD Nero/LiteOn burned - no problem
1 Data CD unknown/unknown burned - no problem

They are all tested with DVDInfoPro and Nero CD DVD Speed.
The 2 VCD had a error message “Error! ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK (056400)” in Nero Speed Test.

Thanks again for the help :slight_smile:

Please post the full mediacode (option ‘Show Complete Mediacode’ in DVDInfoPro.

Originally posted by Herrie
Please post the full mediacode (option ‘Show Complete Mediacode’ in DVDInfoPro.

Herrie, thanks for the firmware. While you’re at it, what do you think of this media? Thanks!

00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 76 0E 14 .j…@…R…v…
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 …RITEKG…04.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 12 11 …

But that can’t be the media you were referring to in your original post :confused:

You had stated that it was 4X Pro-media.
The only entry for 4X Pro-media on dvdrhelp media database is:
Pro-Media DVD-R 4.70 GB LONGTEN 001. 4x

Which I can personally attest to as being crap media.

Herrie, sorry for the late reply, been out all day.

Here is the complete media code for the Pro-Media

00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .j…@…R…
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 …
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 …

Wesociety, I’m not too sure what you mean, but I think the Pro-Media DVD you stated is the one I bought, good to know that it’s the media’s problem, even though that means I gotta burn 25 blank DVDs at 2X, which takes about 30 minutes for 4.3 GB of data I think :frowning:

I’m still a bit concerned about the read erros, but I asume that’s just the combination of Nero/VCD, since those VCDs give out read erros while being read by my Pioneer DVD-106 too.

Edit: A spelling error :slight_smile:

My mistake, I inadvertantly thought that “typingsux” was actually the OP.

You definitely have a poor quality media issue.

Agreed - anything that has no “short” media code (the alphanumeric codes you see, like TYG01, RITEK G04 and MCC01RG20) is near invariably garbage.

Note the “Media Code/Manufacturer ID” with nothing next to it in the original DVDINFOPro dump at the top of the thread. Most media gives you something human readable there - this is what I referred to as the “short” media code in the paragraph above, though that’s not any kind of formal name.

David

Originally posted by SilverSonic
[B]Herrie, sorry for the late reply, been out all day.

Here is the complete media code for the Pro-Media

00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .j…@…R…
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 …
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 …

Wesociety, I’m not too sure what you mean, but I think the Pro-Media DVD you stated is the one I bought, good to know that it’s the media’s problem, even though that means I gotta burn 25 blank DVDs at 2X, which takes about 30 minutes for 4.3 GB of data I think :frowning:

I’m still a bit concerned about the read erros, but I asume that’s just the combination of Nero/VCD, since those VCDs give out read erros while being read by my Pioneer DVD-106 too.

Edit: A spelling error :slight_smile: [/B]

These should work at 6x/8x with 107 beta 6 firmware with good results (at least at 4x, since it has the right writing strategy!)

Originally posted by SilverSonic
“Error! ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK (056400)” in Nero Speed Test.

That is normal with most VCD discs in Nero CD-Speed. Don’t worry about it - it’s an CD-Speed issue - not a drive issue.

Try other (non-VCD) discs - if they works fine, then there should not be a problem at all.

Thanks herrie, I’ll try the firmware :slight_smile:

Phew that’s a relief, thanks for the info OC-Freak. Now I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have a read problem, since it reads other types of CD/DVD just fine :slight_smile:

Awsome

After flashing the firmware to beta 7, completed the speed test at 4x/6x! Which is extremely good compare to the original 2X. Thanks Herrie :smiley:

I would post my test results, but I can’t get the image to attach for some reason, it keeps saying the image isn’t a valid jpg or gif file.

Now that it burns at this speed, I’m getting a bit greedy and wonder if it could burn at 8x :bigsmile

The attachment thing is a known problem with the forums that crops up from time to time. The best thing to do is to put the image(s) on a web server somewhere, then use the IMG button.

David

DavidW meant to say “then use the IMG tag”. :wink:
Click on the help link next to vB Code when posting for a full explanation of the tag functions.

It was the IMG tag I meant - but there’s a little IMG button above the editor window. Press that, insert the address of the image (including the http://) in the script prompt and that’s the job sorted.

Preview before submitting the reply just to check it’s working.

David