Is there a way to copy Securom 5 and run it without Alc120% in the background

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#1

Ok I’ve made and Alc120% image of the Manhunt and HItmant C. Both of the images were made with SEucrom new 4 profile (RMPS extraction) and I’ve burnt them with RMPS but now I need to have Alc120% running in the bakcground with RMPS emulation enabled in order to play the game. That is not really a successfull copy in my opinion. So is there a way to make a copy of this protection without the need of haveing the Alc 120% running in the background? I mean can BlindWrite do it and can it convert the ALC120% RMPS data to it’s own so I don’t have to extract the darn image again?

I have Both Lite-ON 811S and Plextor Premium CD-R/RW.

Thanks


#2

alcohol only uses the emulation approach.

As you have a plex premium use the rial of Blindwrite to make perfect copies that do not need anything running in the background. For more info do a search in the Blindwrite forum.


#3

Securom 5 is not copyable until the developers update their software, Alcohol 120% can’t do Securom 5 yet, MAYBE if a certain burner, i dunno.

BTW, i thought Hitman C uses Starforce 3?


#4

Securom 5 is not copyable until the developers update their software

:confused: Blindwrite can with plex premium


#5

Well for the majority of people, it is uncopyable.:bigsmile:


#6

Is that plex premium writer the only writer that can create an good image of securom 5 ?

I do know that any burner can burn this securom 5 with RMPS enabled…and while playing the backup use alcohol RMPS emulation enabled.


#7

Originally posted by merther02
Well for the majority of people, it is uncopyable.:bigsmile:

Hardly! :rolleyes:

The majority of people that don’t have a plex premium simply make a twinpeak patched copy that works on most drives without any form of emulation.

Tutorials for how do do so can be found here and here .


#8

I really don’t think SecuROM 5 is such a big step further from SecuROM 4.8x. I have backed up Deus Ex 2 and Contdition Zero without any problems.

Originally posted by hburrows83
alcohol only uses the emulation approach.

As you have a plex premium use the rial of Blindwrite to make perfect copies that do not need anything running in the background. For more info do a search in the Blindwrite forum.

Alcohol can copy SecuROM 4.8x/5 with Philamber’s tutorial on Alcohol in the Guides SubForum.


#9

i am trying to copy Hitman Contracts and it lists it as SecureRom 5.x

i tried using alcohol 120 to write and then burn an image with this but when i play the cd it says to insert the real cd and not a copy.

i am new to this so can someone explain how i can copy this cd or what i am doing wrong? i have clone cd and alcohol 120 and then the scan tools and stuff.

please help!


#10

Can I still use the twinpeak method if I did not due the .ccd file? I did the .mds alc120% clone file. Darn it.


#11

Originally posted by dmcgibbo
[B]i am trying to copy Hitman Contracts and it lists it as SecureRom 5.x

i tried using alcohol 120 to write and then burn an image with this but when i play the cd it says to insert the real cd and not a copy.

i am new to this so can someone explain how i can copy this cd or what i am doing wrong? i have clone cd and alcohol 120 and then the scan tools and stuff.

please help! [/B]

What datatype did you choose? If you have used the SecuROM 4.8x/5 profile, you will need to enable RMPS Emulation from the system tray. You also have to enable Ignore Media Type from the system tray if playing from a burner.

Good Luck:)


#12

Originally posted by tempnexus
Can I still use the twinpeak method if I did not due the .ccd file? I did the .mds alc120% clone file. Darn it.

You will find that TwinCreator has an option to patch the file, but I don’t like doing that. The easiest thing to do is to make another image of the CD, but you can load that image onto Alcohol’s Virtual drive, and read from the image to make another image. That should work if you read the image right in the first place.

Good Luck:)


#13

i made an image with A-120 and saved it as .ccd then opened twin peak and patched it with the BWA that grunje provided that supposedly worked for other people. then I used A-120 to write the patched image to a CD and again on SecureRom *NEW setting. It gets to 100% done and the image file is loaded but then at the end A-120 give this error message…

D: Toshiba DVD-Rom SD_R2002(2:0) - [Write ERROR], LBA: 186416, Length: 16
D: Toshiba DVD-Rom SD_R2002(2:0) - Recording failed!
Error message: [05/2C/00] - Command Sequence Error
something is wrong with the recording procedure!Please check the log file and report.

I’ve burned it correctly without doing the patch thing so it makes me think that TwinPeaks is causing the problem with the BWA file but I’m new at this stuff so I have no idea. Also, how do I use the RPMS feature and emulate it - I thought my method of patching and the tutorial is how you avoided having to run it with emulation? Maybe all these cd’s I’ve burned that haven’t worked would work if I used emulation but I don’t know how to do that with these cd’s…


#14

"Third, whilst blackcheck’s twinpeak tool is programmed to be used with CloneCD, alcohol can make and burn images in CloneCD format and you may not wish to pay for licences for two duplicating programs if one can do the work of both.

OK, that said, now you want to know how to do it.

  1. Start by making an image of the play cd of the game you want to copy. The datatype setting to use is securom new (not securom new 4.x) for this purpose and the image must be saved in CloneCD format and not in alcohol’s native format. Reading speed doesn’t matter. Max speed will be fine. [Note: If the game has more than one cd, the only one that will be protected will be the one that has to be in the drive to play the game. The other cd/s can be copied by just using your favourite general burning software (e.g. nero) without any special settings.]

  2. Then either download a bwa file for the cd you want to copy (you can get bwa files here) or use blindwrite’s bwa builder to make your own. If you’re able to download a bwa file, then you can proceed straight to patching with twinpeak. If not, well you’ll just have to make one.

  3. Next make a bwa file (skip this step if you’ve downloaded one). To make a bwa file, you need to use blindwrite’s bwa builder. [Note: There is no need for blindwrite itself to be on your system. You can install blindwrite, copy the bwa builder exe file to another folder on your hard drive and then uninstall blindwrite if you don’t want it on your system. The patin-couffin layer necessary for the bwa builder to function won’t be removed when blindwrite is uninstalled.] There are two ways to use the bwa builder to make a good bwa file:

a) Once you’ve put the play cd into your chosen reader, start the bwa builder. Select the reader, if you’ve got more than one, and speed. Low speeds (1x to 8x) usually work best but not always so experiment and see what works best for you. (In my case, I get best results with my Ltd-163 at 8x but, no doubt, your results will be different. Then click on Start. You’ll then be asked if you want the program to set the last sector automatically. Either say yes if you want the bwa builder to analyse the whole cd or say No and set it yourself. If you say No, then you’ll need to have previously set the Max sector yourself - blackcheck has indicated that 50,000 is usually enough. The analysis will then start.

When it’s finished, with any luck, the graph will show a fairly smooth curve with only one or two spikes and preferably none. Don’t worry if you can’t get the perfect spikeless curves that ViRuS2k is able to achieve. Not everyone is going to be able to achieve his flawless results. If there are only one or two spikes the copy will still work ok, particularly if the spikes aren’t in the first 50,000 sectors (the copy will probably be a little slower to verify than one made with a spikeless bwa file but it will still work). [Tip: Don’t terminate the analysis just because a number of spikes appear on the graph while the analysis is proceeding. Wait until it’s finished because most, or if you’re lucky, all of them will be eliminated by the bwa builder as it completes the process.] If, however, there’s a lot of spikes in the graph, don’t bother with it. It won’t work. Try again and if you again get a bad graph try at a different speed or with a different reader. Once you get one that looks ok, click on File and then Save BWA to save the file.

b) If, no matter what you do, you can’t get a good .bwa file just using the bwa builder, then you’ll have to try to make one by converting an .mds file created by alcohol. To make an mds file with alcohol simply make an image of the play cd using securom new 4.x settings in mds/mdf format. When you’re asked to select the measuring speed for the DPM function, again you’ll probably get better results at low speed. (With my Ltd-163, I use 4x.) When it’s finished making the image files, run the bwa builder and load the mds file by clicking on File and then Load BWA/MDS. If the graph looks ok then create a .bwa file by clicking on File and then Convert MDS -> BWA. This will create a .bwa file in the same folder as your .mds file. You can then delete the mds/mdf files as they’re no longer needed.

  1. Now it’s time to patch the image files. Start Twinpeak and in the Options select the twin sector step. I just use the default of 15 as it works fine for me. However, 6 and 50 are also known to work. Select the .ccd file and the .bwa file and then click Start. Twinpeak will then tell you where it will insert twinsectors and when you click OK it will patch the image files. When it’s finished, you’ll have three new files in the same folder where you saved the original image files. Those files will be patched.ccd, patched.img and patched.sub.

  2. Well, you’ve patched the image files and you’re now ready to burn your back-up copy. How? Simple. Just start alcohol’s image burning wizard and burn patched.ccd using the securom new (not securom new 4.x) datatype setting. Because this type of copy is anything but standard, out of an abundance of caution, you’ll probably get better results if you burn at relatively low speed (say 8x). [Note: Before burning you’ll be warned that the image size doesn’t match the lead-out specified in the toc and you’ll be given three burning options. The first option is correct: “Keep TOC as on source cd, write until end of image file”.] "

Courtesy of Philamber’s wonderful guide :stuck_out_tongue: