I just about pulled my hair out when I read all the info on here about good and bad media. I’d like some advice on my situation and any input would be appreciated.
I had been using an LG burner since I started burning DVDs in 2003. I used PRINCO media and always did a CRC scan of the disc after it was burned. I used this media because it was all I could afford at the time.
I recently found out about PIE/PIF testing and decided to change my burner for a BenQ DDW1640 since it could perform one. This drive is amazing and I think I’ll be getting another one.
I’ve spent the last few weeks dealing with media and reviews from people out there. I am still unsure if I should act on my findings.
If I look at all my DVDs, it’s hard to tell if they are degrading or if they were just burned that way since I have used 3 models of LG burners. I can rule out the very first drive because it went defective on me and I only burned a few discs. The other 2 drives never failed and the discs always passed the CRC scans. I burned about 500 discs and didn’t have a single coaster. All the discs from the latest LG burner (4163B), all look the same, even from a 8 months ago or recently.
Going through my collection of PRINCO discs, most of them tested the same as the latest ones. However some of the older ones had a high PIE rate at the beginning of the disc. Most within spec of under 280 MAX PIEs. As for the PIFs, they were all well within range. The MAX PIFs were about 5-10 as usual.
Then I noticed I had some Yi Jhan 001 discs. These discs are definately degrading very fast and I am in the process of recovering all of them. I can see that these are pure junk for sure. After seeing these discs fail badly, I am scared of so called cheap media and am concerned if all my PRINCO discs will end up the same?
I recently bought a bunch of Maxell 8x discs with an ID of RITEKG05. If I compare the PIE/PIF results compared to Sony08D1; the Sony discs look great to me and I’d be very happy if all the discs were like them.
The RITEKG05 discs have a good PIE rate but the PIF rate is average compared to a real DVD. I have 3 spindles of 100 pcs of the Maxellâ€™s so I don’t want to get rid of them on a tangent!
What I’d like to know is…will the Maxell discs degrade beyond a point of return because of these errors? If they remain the way they show in the scans, I would be satisfied.
Can the PIE/PIF errors be a guide to determine if media will degrade just over time? Or, am I getting conflicting opinions of stories that are blown way out of proportion?
Maxell has a Lifetime Warranty on these discs but I’d rather have no warranty with intact data in the future just like anyone. I am kind of weary of burning discs that I may have to re-burn or even loose in the near future and I don’t want to re-burn everything for nothing. Or, in the worse case, waste time now on this.
Here are some scans from my collection of DVDs using Nero CD-DVD Speed ver 4.10. Every disc I have ever burned was at 4x and I scan them at 4x. The RITEKG05 discs are from the same spindle. I tried to get better results with the RITEK media on the BenQ, but the defaults seem to work the best.
^This is a Maxell RITEKG05 burned on the BenQ today.(These are the discs in question)
“I used the default Qsuite settings”
^This is a RITEKG05 disc burned on the BenQ with default Qsuite settings from 2 weeks ago. (Seems better?!?!)
^This is a Sony disc burned today on the BenQ from the failed Yi Jhan 001 disc shown below. (This is Very good!)
^This is a PRINCO disc burned on the LG-GSA-4163B recently. (Looks ok to me)
^This is an older PRINCO disc burned on the LG-GSA-4163B.
^This is a Maxell RITEKG05 burned on the LG-GSA-4163B right after. (Looks a bit rough)
^This is a older PRINCO disc burned on the LG-GSA-4082B. (Higher PIEs)
^This is a Yi Jhan 001 disc burned on the LG-GSA-4082B. (Bad)
What do you think?