The PC I am running right now has:
Chaintech motherboard based on AMD-761 chipset
AMD Athlon 1.33GHz processor based on the then-popular Thunderbird AYHJA core with 128KB L1 and 256KB L2 cache
Micron’s Crucial PC2100 Registered ECC 256MB modules x 2
I have some more Socket 462 motherboards and processors. The first PC processor I bought on my own was an AMD 386 40MHz. I ran an independent forum last year that was 100% commited to DDR and Athlon.
I have no simple conclusion about this but I do not recommend any AMD processor any more to anyone I know personally however experienced or proud of oneself because I do not like to feel guilt. That’s also why I sometimes sold my AMD boards and processors for 1/3 of average market prices to some friends.
Don’t believe everything you read, especially ones coming from people who are full of themselves, ie, Tom and Kyle.
The two guys who have been promoting AMD K6 and K7 for years.
If you build your own system and know exactly how to install a HSF (the right way), there’s absolutely nothing you should freak about. If your HSF falls off during transportation, you probably got a very very cheap HSF. Look for HSFs that use 3 hole clips (Thermalright SK7 & SLK800) and 4 pole mounting (Alpha 8045 and Swiftech 462) for secure lock down.
Is there such thing as right or wrong in this? How can one judge whether other people have the “right” expertise in installing a heat sink fan or not? “Abolsutely nothing” seems so strong considering how many Athlon processors died. The possibility of heat sink to fall off during transportation is very low. Any heat sink fan other than AMD’s own bundled inside the retail box makes the warranty void.
And until you have $800 million to put towards cpu development you cant say “it would be cheap to add it” without coming off sounding dumb.
$800 million is $0.8 billion which is less than 1/4 of what Intel invests in R&D each year. If they don’t have the money, that’s their problem. VIA had even less capital to invest in C3 processors.
And if you read all the spec’s you would realize that the athlon’s DO have thermal protection. It’s just more motherboard based. If you really want to complain about anyone being cheap, complain to the motherboard manufacturer’s that dont feel its justified to raise the price of a motherboard $10-$20 to enable the features.
Not all Athlon processors have it and how much does one need to spend for the thermal protection feature and an expensive extra heatsink fan from Alpha or Swiftech? (I also have an Alpha 8045 with lots of other coolers.)
And just how often does the heat sink just fall off a chip? A useful experiment would have been to just disconnect the fan and see what happens with heat sink alone.
I myself did not try it but for how long? There are tens of millions of Athlon processors distributed around the world used largely by not-so-sophisticated PC users.