Installed DVD+RW drive and now old DVD-ROM drive no longer recognized (?!)

[jaakaru]

I installed a new LiteOn DVD+RW drive (LDW-401s) on my PC, and now my BIOS doesn't detect my old DVD-ROM drive (Pioneer 116). I ripped out my old CD-RW drive and replaced it with the new DVD+RW drive and just left my old DVD-ROM where it was, so I am baffeled why my PC no longer sees it.

I am thinking it may have to do with Master/Slave settings and the ribbon cable. Originally my PC was configured (on the Secondary) with CD-RW to MASTER and DVD-ROM to SLAVE, with the jumpers both set to CS and the designation by the ribbon cable.

When I installed the new DVD+RW drive I left everything the way it was and put the new drive in jumped to CS. When I saw this problem, I re-jumped the DVD+RW to MASTER and the DVD-ROM to SLAVE, but still no change. I read somewhere that there are 2 kinds of ribbon cables, one "normal" type, and then a special CS one. I am thinking to put in a new ribbon cable and see if that changes anything. If not, then I'm really puzzled what it could be.

Any comments or shared experience welcome!

nadervader11@hotmail.com

[peroni]

Cable most likely.
Make sure the blue socket is attached to the motherboard and not the other way round

[rdgrimes]

Some DVD-ROM drives have been known to cause conflicts with burners. Using a good quality ATA100/133 cable is certainly a good idea.

[jaakaru]

i put in a new IDE cable (yes, blue end attached to motherboard) and i got errors regarding "ElbyCheck detected corrupt Filter Driver..." and then my PC detected no Optical drives at all (!!).

so i replaced my old IDE cable and now at least i have my DVD+RW drive working and the old DVD-ROM just taking up space. is there any way i can "force" my system to recognize this old DVD-ROM drive? in BIOS i have it set to "auto detect" now, but i saw i can choose "CD-ROM" drive. what if i did that?

also, how exactly does Win XP interact with optical drives? when i bought this new DVD+RW drive, there was no driver to install, so i assume WinXP reads some info from the drives firmware (which i did update to ES0G). i checked the driver in the Hardware Profile and it says it's a Windows driver 5.1.2535.0. i guess this is some default driver Windows makes for optical drives?

if all else fails and the LDW-401s refuses to "play well with others" then i just may remove my old DVD-ROM drive since i don't really need it now anyway (altho it would be nice to have 2 DVD drives set to read different Region Codes).

once again, any comments or feedback is welcome...thanks...

[rdgrimes]

You can set the DVD's to no region code if you want.

[cfitz]

Originally posted by jaakaru
i put in a new IDE cable (yes, blue end attached to motherboard) and i got errors regarding "ElbyCheck detected corrupt Filter Driver..." and then my PC detected no Optical drives at all (!!).

Read this, starting with section S11.5:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=9572

The topic is in general about InCD, but section S11.5 has some information that may be applicable to your problem.

cfitz

[jaakaru]

thanks for the replies. there was some good info on the link above. i think you're right that the "key" to this problem (pun intended lies in the: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

i took a snapshot (see attachment). i uninstalled a bunch of DVD apps i wasn't using and it seemd to clean up the filters a bit. now i have only 1 item in the filters. i will try deleting the filters alltogether and see what happens.

actually, my PC is a bit of a mess right now, so i was planning to format the HDD re-install the OS anyway.

in the mean time, any more comments are welcome, and once i reslove this mess i'll let you know how i did it (...or IF i did it...)

PS-region code: i use "Remote Selector" to bypass region coding right now, but i would like to have the drive itsself region free. how is that done? you have to flash it somehow?

[jaakaru]

i thought if i formatted my Hard Drive and re-installed WinXP i'd be "cleaning things up", but instead it seemd to created only more of a mess. i couldn't re-install WinXP properly for some reason (error installing, blue screens everywhere). i figured it may be some HW conflict, so i pulled out all PCI cards (except video card) and re-set the BIOS, but still problems. i even restored my PC to it's original factory configuration (no DVD+RW drive) and I was still getting errors.

i managed to finally get it working after a whole weekend of "blue screens", but now instead of up-grading my PC i down-graded it and have it barely working. in the past i've installed new HW (PCI cards, HDD, etc) with no problems, but this LiteOn DVD+RW has done nothing but wreak havoc on my system, and I can't understand why. is this normal for LiteOn products?