In search for PCI (2.0) VGA card with Mpeg Accelleration onboard

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#1

Hey there,

My ye old HP personal computer that serves me as a XBMC computer for showing any kinds of media is in need of an upgrade. Namely a video card that can at least run full hd smoothly. (Mpeg accelleration support).

The problem here is that the main board has only one slot left, a nice white PCI slot. No PCI express, no AGP.

What videocard would you recommend?


#2

[QUOTE=Mr. Belvedere;2651608]Hey there,

My ye old HP personal computer that serves me as a XBMC computer for showing any kinds of media is in need of an upgrade. Namely a video card that can at least run full hd smoothly. (Mpeg accelleration support).

The problem here is that the main board has only one slot left, a nice white PCI slot. No PCI express, no AGP.

What videocard would you recommend?[/QUOTE]

Any PCI video card should do but that is old technology your best bet would be ebay and look for a PCI graphics card and look for a name brand and do a search and see what kinda reviews it has on it t be sure it is what is says it does.


#3

How about this one? http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-nVidia-GeForce-GT520-Profile/dp/B007W6ZOSI

Specifications: http://www.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=398&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=100257&lang=en&vmcchk=1&Itemid=100257

Or maybe this one: http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DDR3-Graphics-ZT-40605-10L/dp/B00558MS1G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_4


#4

Wow, those are some pretty modern cards there! I was surprised last week when someone posted the link to quite a few AGPs, but PCI Videos!

I was going to see if our parts closet had an old ATI All-In-Wonder card - TV tuner-video-MPEG encoder - and I’m pretty sure those would be VGA-only connectors.

But these modern ones - wow. Pretty cool.


#5

[QUOTE=Kerry56;2651728]How about this one? http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-nVidia-GeForce-GT520-Profile/dp/B007W6ZOSI

Specifications: http://www.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=398&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=100257&lang=en&vmcchk=1&Itemid=100257

Or maybe this one: http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DDR3-Graphics-ZT-40605-10L/dp/B00558MS1G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_4[/QUOTE]Thanks for searching. I had noticed these nice Zotac cards, but aren’t those for 64bit slots?

Are those also compatible with the old pci standard? It seems they will lose a lot of their performance it put in a old 32bit pci slot.


#6

I think the 64bit slots and the cards that fit them are physically bigger, and these cards look like they fit the standard slot. They have the universal key slot configuration.


#7

Ya’know you can get a MB and CPU for like $100 and it will have built in video and even HDMI :smiley:
ASRock A55M-HVS FM1
AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz Socket FM1
And the performance would blow away the old PC, sure you would need a stick of DDR3 but that starts at just $20.

Here is another PCI card
HIS H545H512P Radeon HD 5450 Silence 512MB 64-bit DDR3 PCI HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card


#8

I am thinking about a new system, but i’d like a system with DTS out on SpDif, so i can use my surround system for high quality sound.

The current system may be ancient, but it serves its purpose quite nicely (until you want full hd) with some minor tweaks.


#9

MPEG “what” ???


#10

[QUOTE=chef;2652118]MPEG “what” ???[/QUOTE]You know, this stuff.


#11

Yeah, I thought you meant CUDA and AVivo, but “mpeg” hit me. :wink:


#12

So, would those cards work in such a nice old white 32 bit pci slot?


#13

Honestly, depends on your mobo!

What model is it?


#14

Compaq (HP) DX2000. It has two white 32bit PCI slots, nothing else. One slot has a Sweex Soundcard installed. The other is available for the new VGA card. According to the specs PCI v2.2


#15

You could try with the 5450 card, but also I found this:

Graphics are integrated into the motherboard and share video memory with the main system RAM (another compelling reason to upgrade the overall memory). If you won’t be editing photos and video or other intensive tasks, these integrated graphics will work fine in most office settings. [B]If you do need to upgrade down the road, the CPU has an available AGP and three PCI-Express graphics slots for high-end graphics cards. [/B]


#16

[QUOTE=chef;2652715]You could try with the 5450 card[/quote] I rather know beforehand that it works.

, but also I found this:
That’s the new 2000 :slight_smile:


#17

If your system is an old AGP bus system, then it is just about too old… playing HD (1080p) video at very high bit rates [matching blu ray quality] is a task for the multi core generation of system (2008+). Still, you can buy a decent system for not much money… I’d probalby budget at least $200 - $350 (closer to the higher end if you want discrete graphics…) Some of the old system may be salvagable depending on what’s there… before 2005, power supplies used different connectors and were much lower wattage (200 - 400 watt). It is possible to find some dual & tri cores w/ pcie graphics bus being sold used on the low range pricetag-- but if you’re uncomfortable buying used, you could still upgrade.

BTW, I don’t think hdmi was very common in graphics cards until 2009 so set that as the oldest card you should get.


#18

I am curious, did you get a card already?


#19

[QUOTE=Bakst0ne;2654053]I am curious, did you get a card already?[/QUOTE]Nah.

As i already told, it’s a really old Pentium 4 system. Although it has SATA, it does not have AGP, only two 32 bit pci slots of which one is filled with the “new” DTS 7.1 Soundcard.

It’s a big pain to actually find out if

  • A card is completely 32bit compatible. There are lots of 64 bits cards that should be compatible, but almost no mention what happens to the performance when you actually put them in such an old slot

  • A new card benefits from it all. Does the internal mpeg accelleration really work in XBMC/Windows XP?


#20

Most 64-bit cards should work in 32-bit slots. Since the PCI standard allows for a optional 64-bit bus, I’d assume you should only suffer a performance hit, nothing that should impair video playback of most media. How much of a performance hit, I wouldn’t know. Depends on how taxing the particular card is on the 32-bit bus width of the PCI slot.

As unreliable as Wikipedia is, they do have a nice article on the PCI slot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-X#Mixing_of_32-bit_and_64-bit_PCI_cards_in_different_width_slots Even includes a short write-up on mixing 32-bit and 64-bit cards and slots:

I’d personally go with the GT430. It can at least let you do some light gaming/casual gaming while the GT520 performs worse overall in gaming (GDDR3 vs. GDDR5 as well as number of SP, stream processor, differences and clock differences).