ImgBurn Not Working (Looking To Buy DVDFab)

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#1

OK…long term DVDFabHD Decrytpor user…looking to buy DVDFab Platinum. I have previously movings on my HDD (eg. Apocalypto) in Video_TS/VOB/IFO movie directories. I’m trying to create some backup DVDs and went out and bought my first DVD+R DL discs. Previously, I’ve used Nero 6 Recode for DVD-R SL with no problems. With Apocalypto (and others) being more than 4.5GB I want to burn ob DVD+R DL. I looked at FRYS on DVD-R DL but was told +R are fine and obviously cheaper.

My first issue via Recode 2 and also DVDShrink with Nero Burner was the DL break. I forgot to uncheck the remove function so it hung. After correcting I burned using Recode 2, DVDShrink w/Nero and also DVDFab (Trial Version) with VSO and Nero. VSO gave completely unreadable disc. DVDFab+Nero burned but like Recode & Shrink the disc would get past the layer break but hang none the less. Funny thing is while on the PC the layer break would hang too…with that fixed the PC playback runs fine…but my Sony DVD player hangs on these discs (same exact point). So, I was thinking it may be quality of discs but now think it is a compatibility item of +R. I’ve tried buring at slower speeds…4X versus 8X…no difference. So, my last trial before returning +R for DL -R is to try DVDFab with ImgBurn. I downloaded 2.4.1.0 (latest) and ran DVDFab. When it launched ImgBurn after copy process from HDD to Temp HDD folder the onscreen log file went to “Preparing Image…”. It hung there. Any ideas ? I’ve reads somewhere in past ImgBurn needs DVD Decryptor installed…still true or is DVDFab OK without it ? Let me know…want to eliminate all the burning variables on this.

Also, any ideas on my general issue of hangs on discs let me know.

Thanks !!!

Also…new DVD+/-RW burner…LG GSA-H55L with 1.03 firmware…pretty close to latest.


#2

Well, figured out that ImgBurn window was waiting for me to select which location was supposed to be DL break point. Once I did that it went forward and burned. Works in PC…will try Sony DVD Player…still using the DVD+R DL disks I have left in pack.


#3

UPDATE: Tried the DVDFab+ImgBurn DVD-9+R DL in my Sony DVD Player and layer break is fine but hangs at same point as others. I would think this is now a compatiblity issue of DVD DL R discs ?

Thoughts ?


#4

I am not exactly clear on which of your problem discs were done with DVDFab and which with other apps. I have a GSA E60L external, which I believe is a GSA E55 like yours in an external box. I use Verbatim +R DLs (MKM 003) at 6X and don’t have the skipping/freezing problem that you mention. I rip and usually burn with Platinum (VSO) and usually have no trouble. I have 3 standalone player/recorders (ILO/Liteon, Toshiba and LG) and the +R DLs play fine in all 3. If you have done one complete rip/burn with Platinum using the VSO engine, post a burn log so we can see what is going on in there.


#5

VSO Burn Log is gone…


#6

Here is the ImgBurn Log

I 16:26:26 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!
I 16:26:26 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 16:26:26 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,412 KB - Available: 1,497,744 KB
I 16:26:26 Initialising SPTI…
I 16:26:26 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 16:26:26 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 16:26:26 Operation Started!
I 16:26:26 Building Image Tree…
I 16:26:27 Checking Directory Depth…
I 16:26:27 Calculating Totals…
I 16:26:27 Preparing Image…
I 16:26:32 Using Layer Break LBA: 1400837 -> 1400848 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 11, Cell: 12, Vob/Cell ID: 2/1, Time: 01:16:51, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
I 16:26:32 Checking Path Length…
I 16:26:32 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 16:26:32 Size: 5,196,972,032 bytes
I 16:26:32 Sectors: 2,537,584
I 16:26:32 Image Size: 5,197,627,392 bytes
I 16:26:32 Image Sectors: 2,537,904
I 16:26:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:22
I 16:26:49 Operation Started!
I 16:26:49 Source File: -==//[BUILD IMAGE]/==-
I 16:26:49 Source File Sectors: 2,537,904 (MODE1/2048)
I 16:26:49 Source File Size: 5,197,627,392 bytes
I 16:26:49 Source File Volume Identifier: Apocalypto
I 16:26:49 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 16:26:49 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 16:26:49 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 16:26:49 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55L 1.03 (E:) (ATA)
I 16:26:49 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 16:26:49 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 16:26:49 Write Mode: DVD
I 16:26:49 Write Type: DAO
I 16:26:49 Write Speed: 8x
I 16:26:49 Link Size: Auto
I 16:26:49 Test Mode: No
I 16:26:49 OPC: No
I 16:26:49 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 16:26:54 DeviceIoControl(FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME) Failed! - Reason: Access is denied.
W 16:26:54 DeviceIoControl(FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME) Failed! - Reason: Access is denied.
I 16:26:54 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 16:26:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,400,848
I 16:26:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary
I 16:26:55 Filling Buffer… (40 MB)
I 16:26:56 Writing LeadIn…
I 16:27:29 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2537903)
I 16:27:29 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2537903)
I 16:27:29 Writing Layer 0… (LBA: 0 - 1400847)
I 16:34:43 Writing Layer 1… (LBA: 1400848 - 2537903)
I 16:39:41 Synchronising Cache…
I 16:40:05 Closing Track…
I 16:40:29 Finalising Disc…
I 16:42:31 Exporting Graph Data…
I 16:42:31 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings hekochs\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H55L_1.03_SATURDAY-APRIL-12-2008_4-26_PM_RICOHJPN-D01-67_8x.ibg
I 16:42:31 Export Successfully Completed!
I 16:42:31 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:34
I 16:42:31 Average Write Rate: 6,943 KB/s (5.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,185 KB/s (8.1x)
I 16:42:31 Close Request Acknowledged
I 16:42:31 Closing Down…
I 16:42:31 Shutting down SPTI…
I 16:42:31 ImgBurn closed!


#7

[QUOTE=thekochs;2037012]UPDATE: Tried the DVDFab+ImgBurn DVD-9+R DL in my Sony DVD Player and layer break is fine but hangs at same point as others. I would think this is now a compatiblity issue of DVD DL R discs ?

Thoughts ?[/QUOTE]yes plus you probably burned it to fast.


#8

[quote=Bob;2037086]yes plus you probably burned it to fast.[/quote]Amen. Try 4X with the Ricohs.


#9

[QUOTE=signals;2037092]Amen. Try 4X with the Ricohs.[/QUOTE]

I have a Sony DVD Carousel player that is maybe 2+ years old which this was happening on. First, as I said in Apocalypto it was freezing on charpter 11 at the same exact point…then I realized I had “remove layer break” on during burn. This freeze happened on PC & Sony player. After I changed that setting the freeze which I think was DL change went away…PC & Sony Player went thru that point. However, on all discs there was another freeze at chapter 11 at 1:53:22…exact same place. I’ve done 8X, 6X, 4X even with DVDFab using VSO, Nero, ImgBurn…also Nero Recode 2 direct…and DVDShrink with Nero. I’ve done roughly 15 discs in various combos. I also have a year old Denon scaling DVD player…all these freeze at same point on it. So, I summize it is not bad discs (like glitch on a disc) since the freeze is same exact point…or the burners/engines (since I’ve tried a bunch)…or the players. I even used Recode 2 to burn a DVD-R single layer and no freezes anywhere. So, I was thinking it is the DVD+R DL compatiblity with my Sony player but you guys say they work fine so my only other thought is the discs themselves. These are FRY’s Electornics own HQ store brand that was $27 for 25…on sale for $19.

Are you saying to buy other brand and try at 4X ?
Should I try DVD-R DL too ?
Why would it freeze at EXACT same point ?
Do you think DVDFab+ImgBurn or Nero is best ?
:confused:

Really appreciate the help…any other thoughts or ideas to try welcome !!!


#10

Try burning your current DL media at 4X. When using DL media I find the best bet is to use Verbatim +R DL for the best results.

I personally would use FAB with ImgBurn.


#11

[QUOTE=thekochs;2036950]OK…long term DVDFabHD Decrytpor user…looking to buy DVDFab Platinum. I have previously movings on my HDD (eg. Apocalypto) in Video_TS/VOB/IFO movie directories. I’m trying to create some backup DVDs and went out and bought my first DVD+R DL discs. Previously, I’ve used Nero 6 Recode for DVD-R SL with no problems. With Apocalypto (and others) being more than 4.5GB I want to burn ob DVD+R DL. I looked at FRYS on DVD-R DL but was told +R are fine and obviously cheaper.[/QUOTE]

OK you are using dvd+r media. So in common settings write you need to check set booktype to dvd-rom. Hopefully this fixes your problem


#12

To summarize all the suggestions: get Verbatim +R DLs (orange label, marked 8X-10X) and burn them at 6X with booktype (in DVDFab Common Settings) set to DVD-ROM. Put a check in the box for Remove Layer Break (also in Common Settings). Disconnect from the internet and stop all other applications when ripping or burning until you get this sorted out. Make sure the drive that holds the DVDFab Temp files has plenty (>10GB) of free space and is defragmented.

[quote=thekochs;2037107]I have a Sony DVD Carousel player that is maybe 2+ years old which this was happening on. First, as I said in Apocalypto it was freezing on charpter 11 at the same exact point…then I realized I had “remove layer break” on during burn. This freeze happened on PC & Sony player. After I changed that setting the freeze which I think was DL change went away…PC & Sony Player went thru that point. However, on all discs there was another freeze at chapter 11 at 1:53:22…exact same place. I’ve done 8X, 6X, 4X even with DVDFab using VSO, Nero, ImgBurn…also Nero Recode 2 direct…and DVDShrink with Nero. I’ve done roughly 15 discs in various combos. I also have a year old Denon scaling DVD player…all these freeze at same point on it. So, I summize it is not bad discs (like glitch on a disc) since the freeze is same exact point…or the burners/engines (since I’ve tried a bunch)…or the players. I even used Recode 2 to burn a DVD-R single layer and no freezes anywhere. So, I was thinking it is the DVD+R DL compatiblity with my Sony player but you guys say they work fine so my only other thought is the discs themselves. These are FRY’s Electornics own HQ store brand that was $27 for 25…on sale for $19.

Are you saying to buy other brand and try at 4X ?
Should I try DVD-R DL too ?
Why would it freeze at EXACT same point ?
Do you think DVDFab+ImgBurn or Nero is best ?
:confused:

Really appreciate the help…any other thoughts or ideas to try welcome !!![/quote]


#13

Verbatim +R DLs are no longer good (unless you find an old lot).
RiDATA 8.5GB 8X DVD+R DL are a little better. :smiley:


#14

I assume you are referring to the MII (Made In India) version, as discussed in the CDF blank media forum. Mine (orange label) are MIS and still available retail where I live at BestBuy. And the opinions I’ve read here at CDF are not quite as unequivocal as yours. I think we would all appreciate some links for more information. I couldn’t find any scans of the MII in a quick run through the blank media forum.[quote=soundping;2037192]Verbatim +R DLs are no longer good (unless you find an old lot).
RiDATA 8.5GB 8X DVD+R DL are a little better. :D[/quote]


#15

Verbatim +R DL made by Mitsubishi in Singapore are still the best there is and can still be found. All bets are off on the ones made in India.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-43310-8196-0/2%3Floc%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F20-VERBATIM-DVD-R-DUAL-LAYER-DL-made-in-SINGAPORE_W0QQitemZ190213340059QQcmdZViewItem&sa=X&oi=product_result&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&cad=ANNGrrUiyizrfg57N03Q1ensWz94PjnhG0l5wi3yIbv2ipVUkc5AEIuL9EtNz2Qq34zUZVvN2anww4OFrH20U566LgAH2XLr56ASee0KbzdfY6kPZQmDCCP61L-Id8Izafls4fBdOmLGzaxZjABEbC9EQKF4ilwOLjkOK8XSBhZBvuQUSg47b8jt2mw0bq1PUakz4-d4eZax-hA0EbDE6WMF9V1LTCAY8LJuFlMdxOIVgY_ORmhdF3_NgaUhXjgrGKVaF_PprbXaAAAAAAAAAAA&usg=AFQjCNEVFhlU-q5NDl2EGEB9TIC9R_IqRA


#16

[QUOTE=signals;2037145][B]Put[/B] a check in the box for Remove Layer Break (also in Common Settings)[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure I understand this one ? I had this check mark before and all my burns froze both on PC and Sony Player at a certain place. I unchecked this box and subsequent burns on both PC & Player went past that point…only change. For DL don’t you want/require a layer break ? If so, shouldn’t this be “unchecked” ? I assume SL it would be ignored ?

Also, above others said to “check set booktype to dvd-rom”. I recall this being on “automatic” and during the burn the log files showed this being set…I recall. As an example, take a look at the log file above where: [B]I 16:26:54 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM[/B] Anyway, guess I should force/select to be sure ?

Also…no one has mentioned DVD-R. Are they “more” compatible ? It sounds like everyone posting here thinks I have a burn speed issue but with all the trys it HANGS on the very [B][I]exact same [/I][/B]point…would this really be indicitive of a burn speed issue or a compatibility glitch with the player since there is no freeze on the PC at that point ? If so, besides paying more $$ would the DVD-R DL give me better chance for success ?

Thanks for all the inputs !!!


#17

Opinions differ, but I hold that +R with the booktype set to DVD-ROM to be more broadly compatible than –R. It looks like a commercially released DVD to the player. With the newer players it really doesn’t make much difference, they will play most any disk.


#18

Update: Went into ImgBurn to burn directly since I can manually control better. Noticed when the page came up to select layer change the ime stamp was exactly at the point I see freezes…1:16:51. So, the freeze I’m seeing is I think layer break issue…not sure why it moved before…maybe changes in size moved it. Anyway, guess my question now is the comment above to check or uncheck “remove layer break”. Which do I do ?

Where in DVDFab is this ?

In IMGBurn I cannot find…there is…

Seemless Layer Break…checked
Layer Break on DVD-R DL…checked

More…

In ImgBurn I see book type to be set and I go into this but the settings don’t seem to stick/save ?
Also, I noticed it detected my media as RICOHJPN-D01-67


#19

New DIRECT from ImgBurn using HDD Apocalypto from DVD Fab extract to HDD folder…
Unchecked "Seemless Layer Break"
4X
Made Book-Type Settings DVD-ROM selected…not auto…got it to save

Here is burn log…will try disc ASAP…


I 11:07:16 Operation Started!
I 11:07:16 Building Image Tree…
I 11:07:16 Checking Directory Depth…
I 11:07:16 Calculating Totals…
I 11:07:16 Preparing Image…
I 11:07:18 Using Layer Break LBA: 1400837 -> 1400848 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 11, Cell: 12, Vob/Cell ID: 2/1, Time: 01:16:51, SPLIP: Yes)
I 11:07:18 Checking Path Length…
I 11:07:18 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 11:07:18 Size: 5,196,972,032 bytes
I 11:07:18 Sectors: 2,537,584
I 11:07:18 Image Size: 5,197,627,392 bytes
I 11:07:18 Image Sectors: 2,537,904
I 11:07:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02
I 11:07:22 Operation Started!
I 11:07:22 Building Image Tree…
I 11:07:22 Checking Directory Depth…
I 11:07:22 Calculating Totals…
I 11:07:22 Preparing Image…
I 11:08:28 Using Layer Break LBA: 1400837 -> 1400848 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 11, Cell: 12, Vob/Cell ID: 2/1, Time: 01:16:51, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
I 11:08:28 Checking Path Length…
I 11:08:28 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 11:08:28 Size: 5,196,972,032 bytes
I 11:08:28 Sectors: 2,537,584
I 11:08:28 Image Size: 5,197,627,392 bytes
I 11:08:28 Image Sectors: 2,537,904
I 11:08:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:16
I 11:08:38 Operation Started!
I 11:08:38 Source File: -==//[BUILD IMAGE]/==-
I 11:08:38 Source File Sectors: 2,537,904 (MODE1/2048)
I 11:08:38 Source File Size: 5,197,627,392 bytes
I 11:08:38 Source File Volume Identifier: APOCALYPTO
I 11:08:38 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 11:08:38 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 11:08:38 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 11:08:38 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55L 1.03 (E:) (ATA)
I 11:08:38 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 11:08:38 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 11:08:38 Write Mode: DVD
I 11:08:38 Write Type: DAO
I 11:08:38 Write Speed: 4x
I 11:08:38 Link Size: Auto
I 11:08:38 Test Mode: No
I 11:08:38 OPC: No
I 11:08:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 11:08:38 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 11:08:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,400,848
I 11:08:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary
I 11:08:39 Filling Buffer… (40 MB)
I 11:08:40 Writing LeadIn…
I 11:09:15 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2537903)
I 11:09:15 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2537903)
I 11:09:15 Writing Layer 0… (LBA: 0 - 1400847)
I 11:18:38 Writing Layer 1… (LBA: 1400848 - 2537903)
I 11:25:43 Synchronising Cache…
I 11:26:07 Closing Track…
I 11:26:40 Finalising Disc…
I 11:28:31 Exporting Graph Data…
I 11:28:32 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings hekochs\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H55L_1.03_SUNDAY-APRIL-13-2008_11-08_AM_RICOHJPN-D01-67_4x.ibg
I 11:28:32 Export Successfully Completed!
I 11:28:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:52
I 11:28:32 Average Write Rate: 5,137 KB/s (3.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,592 KB/s (4.0x)
I 11:28:32 Cycling Tray before Verify…


#20

Seamless is the best way to go, but only if your player supports it. I would suggest trying one with it checked & one without. I would suggest doing a full rip & then reading down to post #18 in this thread. Booktype for Dvd+R DL is normally automatic with ImgBurn, but if you want to check after your burn, scroll down to information last recorded in the right hand window which should say Booktype Dvd-Rom.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f34/reading-dual-layer-dvds-235705/

EDIT: too late.