OK slapped the pioneer 105 drive in, already at 1.30 firmware so all is well.
Put in a blank DvD.
Installed ‘Pinnacle’ Instant Copy.
Put in ‘Essex Boys’ DvD into my DvD rom drive.
Selected COPY disc > disc.
Of course it didn’t work, 'DvD is protected, cannot copy protected DvD’s. OK so looks like I need some more education, what do I need to do here lads, do I need differant software??