Identical failed sectors

Computer Hardware
#1

Every time, and I mean every time I burn a DVD (using Nero 7 and some Ritek DVD+R discs) I get the same verification error. The DVDs seem to play fine, but I’m wondering why I keep getting the same error. Here’s my log from nero:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.0.0
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S>Version: UPP6 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <ASUS CD-S480/AH >Version: 0.87 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.0.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : ASUS CD-S480/AH atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP1614C atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S I: CDRom0
ASUS CD-S480/AH J: CDRom1
Generic DVD-ROM L: CDRom2

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523564kB)
Free physical memory: 100MB (102792kB)
Memory in use : 80 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

2.12.2005
Burn DVD Image
3:32:23 PM #1 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

3:32:23 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

3:32:23 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer I: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S running

3:32:23 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3301
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

3:32:49 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 277
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 1895912 (421:18.62, 3702MB)

3:32:49 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

3:32:49 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2568
Recorder: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S, Media type: DVD+R

3:32:49 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 456
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW.)

3:32:49 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 846
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1895913 (1895913) = #1895913/421:18.63
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1895913 blocks [I: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S]
--------------------------------------------------------------

3:32:49 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1058
Prepare recorder [I: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3882829824, ISRC “”
DAO layout:
===========
Start|Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|RecDep_____
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1895913 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

3:32:49 PM #11 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 34
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

3:32:49 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files started

3:32:50 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4129
Cache writing successful.

3:32:50 PM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files completed

3:32:50 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

3:32:50 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2669
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

3:32:50 PM #17 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 04 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24
Buffer x03a10800: Len x804

3:32:50 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

3:40:26 PM #19 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<I: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1895913 (1CEDE9h), length 0 blocks

3:40:26 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

3:40:54 PM #21 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

3:40:54 PM #22 Phase 78 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Data verification started

3:42:32 PM #23 SPTI -1128 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1128)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x28 00 00 03 00 10 00 00 10 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 11
Buffer x04825200: Len x8000

3:50:03 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

3:50:03 PM #25 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9505
Read errors from sector 196624 to 196639

3:50:03 PM #26 Phase 81 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Data verification failed

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

I’m not at all sure what’s causing this problem. I haven’t changed disc brands, burner, or software (it used to burn fine with Nero 7, and before that Nero 6.6). As stated the DVDs seem to play fine (only one has shown a noticeable skip), but Nero states that the disc is in fact faulty. The discs are always faulty at the same set of sectors, no matter how long or short the DVD actually is, and it doesn’t seem to matter if the ISO image was created with DVDShrink or DVD Rebuilder Pro. Has anyone else had this same problem, and have they found a way around it? Thanks.

#2

Several things to try.

As you’ve got a Liteon use KProbe to do quality scans (or Nero CD-DVD Speed) to check the burn quality.

Mount the image on a virtual drive (eg. Daemon Tools) & use either Windiff (from Microsoft) or CD Check (free off the net) & do a file comparison.

You might get some idea as to what the problem is with these tests.

I don’t verify with Nero anymore as I found it unreliable.

#3

Ok, so let’s say that I try Nero CD-DVD speed; what do I check for, to determine burn quality? Is there a certain threshold that I should look for, or symptoms of a bad burn (or a burner going bad)?

This is what Nero CD-DVD speed gives me:

General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S
Firmware: UPP6
Disc: DVD+R (RITEK R03)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 803
Average: 64.58
Total: 819246
PI failures
Maximum: 25
Average: 0.52
Total: 16563
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 8:44
Number of samples: 103124
Average scanning interval: 1.15 ECC
Glitches removed: 3

I’m afraid I can’t seem to post a picture, but there seems to be quite a few PI failures in the very beginning (500MB) of the disc, but after that it’s quite smooth sailing.

#4

This is another test run, and it’s from an earlier date (about two weeks ago). I’m wondering if it’s the media, or if my drive might be going bad… I do put this drive under a lot of stress.

General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVD+RW SOHW-802S
Firmware: UPP6
Disc: DVD+R (RITEK R03)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 338
Average: 13.10
Total: 174661
PI failures
Maximum: 8
Average: 0.68
Total: 9724
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 10:03
Number of samples: 125793
Average scanning interval: 1.14 ECC
Glitches removed: 3

#5

Posting a picture is not very tricky. In CD-DVD Speed save the image as a png file. Then using the advanced option here you attach the image with “Manage Attachments”.

The figures you quote are not the best but not terrible either. Try posting a picture. BTW I think you use 4X or 8X rather than maximum & the Disc Quality option. You’ll get a quality score & if it’s in the 90s then thats fine.

Also try the non-Nero verification I mentioned.

#6

Well, I’m about to try some new DVD+R discs, and I’ll do some more quality tests. The only problem that I have with the new DVDs is that, unlike the Ritek DVDs, these (Memorex, but I haven’t checked manufacturer) only burn at the very slow speed of 2.4x. However strangely enough I can burn an entire DVD (4.1GB) in 17 minutes at “2.4x,” which seems a little odd to me. I’ll post more later, as well as pics of what’s going on. I know that soon I’m going to get a new DVD burner, since mine won’t create dual layer discs, but right now I’d like to keep my current one alive long enough to get me through a set of copies and free up some HDD space.

edit:

I’m now testing the new dvd burn, and the quality score is absolutely pitiful: in the 20s. It looks like my dvd burner is just plain shot. Guess I’ll have to bite the bullet and get a new one. I’m sure there are plenty of posts about which burner is best, but what have you had the most luck with?

#7

Then fact that 2.4x is the max speed available to you means that the burner does not recognise the media so uses a default speed (and burn strategy). This would generally result in a poor burn. A firmware update might resolve this.

Apparently with Memorex media you just don’t know what you are getting as they buy in from various sources. This results in very inconsistent quality.

All this means that it’s by no means certain that there is anything wrong with your burner.

I’d still like to see the result of a non-Nero verification but that’s up to you.

If you’re looking for a good burner then the Benq 1640, LG 4163B (or later probably) & the latest Liteons (reportedly) are all worth looking at.

I’ve got a Benq 1620 & LG4163B & my preference of the 2 is the LG, but there’s nothing wrong with the Benq. The LG burns -R media better.

Edit:
I’ve just read on another thread that the Ritek R03 you were using are very variable in quality & generally considered crappy. That could explain things.

I can’t find any reference to firmware upgrades for your Liteon so to be able to succesfully burn currently available media then a replacement might be necessary.

#8

Yeah I was headed down that road anyway, as my burner was capped at 8X single-layer media anyway. No firmware updates = eventual uselessness, since it won’t be able to burn the media that will populate the shelves in a year or so. I’ll take a look at the BenQ, there’s one on directron.com for about $50.