ID taiyo yuden

vbimport

#1

ciao, sono nuovo del forum.
vorrei porre un quesito.
ho comprato dei dvd+ plextor e dei verbatim pastel, entrambi prima di essere scritti hanno il seguente ID:
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

                       Complete Media Code                           

00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F …&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 …YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7…Nr…c…
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 …

dopo averli copiati, ho notato che nel verbatim(nel plextor è rimasto uguale) non è più presente il ?.
non riesco a capire cosa significhi quel valore e perchè li è cambiato.
per il resto sembra andare perfetttamente.
ho un masterizzatore lg del portatile, e ho letto che ci sono problemi di compatibilità con dei test per dvd(cd-dvd speed-dvdinfo)e i masterizzatori LG, e infatti l’ho potuto riscontrare di persona, nerocd-speed non mi dice neanche l’id.
ora provo a copiare un altro verbatim e vediamo se cambia di nuovo, intanto se qualcuno a qualche opinione in proposito mi piacerebbe che la esprimesse, cosi forse potrei capire come mai l’ID cambia.


#2

Ciao giuseppe3000,

benvenuto nel forum. :smiley:

Non è che per caso il Plextor l’hai masterizzato come DVD-Video e il Verbatim no, o viceversa?

Qui di seguito ti riporto il Complete Media Code di un DVD+R vergine (RICOHJPNR01)



00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR
00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

e qui quello di un DVD+R dello stesso tipo masterizzato come DVD-Video:



00000000 [B]08[/B] 02 00 00 [B]01[/B] 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 [B]23 14 EF[/B] .............#..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR
00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

Infine, nel caso di un DVD dati (non DVD-Video):



00000000 [B]08[/B] 02 00 00 [B]01[/B] 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 [B]17 12 6F[/B] ...............o
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR
00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................


Come vedi, anche altri bytes sono cambiati (forse nel tuo caso non te ne eri accorto perchè corrispondevano tutti a caratteri non stampabili). Credo siano legati al booktype e ai region-codes…

Ciao,

ET


#3

Ti ringrazio della risposta, solo che io masterizzo tutti i dvd sempre con nero e in modalità dvd-video. ho fatto un’altro verbatim e infatti mi è successa la stessa cosa del primo. domani copio un plextor sempre in modalità video e vediamo che dice. cmq mi hai dato la conferma che l’id cambia tra vergine e copiato. ps non ho capito bene l’ultima parte:

Come vedi, anche altri bytes sono cambiati (forse nel tuo caso non te ne eri accorto perchè corrispondevano tutti a caratteri non stampabili). Credo siano legati al booktype e ai region-codes…

Sbaglio nel pensare che due dvd con lo stesso id iniziale debbano dare lo stesso id anche dopo, se registrati tutti e due in modalità video con film diversi?


#4

Beh, secondo logica, se hai utilizzato la stessa applicazione direi di si… purtroppo ho provato a cercare in rete un po’ di informazioni sulla struttura dell’ATIP (funzionalità dei singoli bytes, ecc.) ma non ho trovato niente di particolarmente illuminante.

Riguardo a quello che avevo detto nel post precedente, mi riferisco al fatto che, se durante la masterizzazione viene cambiato il booktype (parlando dei DVD+R), può darsi che questo si rifletta proprio nei bytes che stiamo considerando. Lo stesso dicasi per il fatto che programmi come DVD Identifier e DVDInfo dicano “not a DVD-Video” per un DVD vergine e poi invece “Regions=1,2,3,4,…” quando lo hai masterizzato come DVD-Video…

Ciao, :slight_smile:

ET


#5

guarda ho fatto una prova e ho masterizzato un plextor con lo stesso film copiato nel verbatim, e ho visto che hanno lo stesso identico id:
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 22 CA AF …"…
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 …YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7…Nr…c…
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 …

praticamente ho notato che su 4 dvd che ho copiato hanno lo stesso identico id solo 2 dvd,un verbatim e un plextor(in cui è registrato lo stesso film) gli altri due copiati hanno invece i seguenti id:

plextor
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 C6 3F …%.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 …YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7…Nr…c…
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 …

verbatim
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 CE 1F …%…
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 …YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7…Nr…c…
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 …

quindi credo che l’id cambi facilmente anche da dvd-video a dvd-video, almeno cosi sembra.
mi spiace non poter fare una controllo della qualità del disco, perchè il mio lG non mi permette di farlo.
vorrei chiedeti una cosa eltranquil, avendo lo stesso id ma essendo di due marche diverse è la stessa cosa comprare i plextor o i verbatim. ti chiedo questo perchè uno costa qualcosina in meno dell’altro e cmq anche perchè non se poi possono esserci trattamenti diversi in base alla marca.


#6

Siccome stiamo parlando di Taiyo Yuden, secondo me non c’è differenza visto che, almeno sino ad ora, tutti i supporti TY sono fabbricati in Giappone.
Per altri supporti, quali i MCC (Verbatim), la cosa è diversa perchè, pur avendo lo stesso mediacode, possono essere fabbricati in posti diversi (Taiwan, India…). Se dai un’occhiata qui in Italian: chat vedrai che ci sono un po’ di threads dove si parla proprio di questo.

Anche io ho sia parecchi Verbatim Pastel che Plextor: sono dei supporti fantastici :stuck_out_tongue: . So che geno888 ne ha presi un po’ su Nierle e li sta testando, per cui magari troverai dei risultati nel thread Per chi ha voglia di sperimentare…

Se vuoi un consiglio spassionato, masterizzali a 8x: anche se la maggior parte dei masterizzatori li supporta anche a 16x, a 8x si hanno i risultati migliori. :iagree:

Ciao,

ET


#7

Ti ringrazio del consiglio, anche se purtroppo LG del mio portatile non va oltrei i 4x. tra l’altro alcune cose sperando di masterizzarle meglio le faccio anche a 2,4x. ottimo il thread che mi hai consigliato, spero che geno888 ci faccia sapere presto qualcosa di nuovo.
a presto!


#8

Eccomi qui pronto all’azione :bigsmile:

Ora come ora ho masterizzato solo uno di questi taiyo, un plextor -R, e ho postato la scansione nel forum internazionale.

Per il momento sono un po’ nel marasma: devo ancora montare il nuovo masterizzatore avuto in sostituzione di quello danneggiato (per fortuna in garanzia).

Appena rientro in carreggiata posterò i risultati e i mediacode. Cercherò anche di stabilire se ci sono differenze tra dvd-video, dvd-dati, e booktype ROM.

Cercherò di postare quanto prima i risultati.

A presto


#9

Ecco qui i primi dati che ho disponibili. Per una maggiore facilità di riferimento (cioè per evitare di creare un post troppo lungo da scorrere), inserirò un codice per ogni disco su un post separato. In questo modo, se qualcuno vul fare riferimento con un link a ciascun codice specifico potrà fare riferimento al numerino in alto a destra di ciascun post.

I codici in questione li ho ottenuti sia con un masterizzatore liteon 1693 e col programma dvd identifier 4.1.0 e col CD-DVD speed 4.0.1. Ho isato entrambi perché ho notato qualche differenza tra i due.

Ecco qui di seguito i codici che ho trovato finora.


#10

Marca del disco: Plextor -R 8x
Tipo di disco: Disco non masterizzato
La confezione riporta la dicitura “Made in Japan”


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [TYG02]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS04]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG02]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 10 66 78 80 00 .@…R…fx…
0010 : 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TYG02…
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0e 11 87 78 80 00 …"" …x…
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 13 0d 10 0e 07 00 …
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 06 18 17 85 78 75 00 0c d6 89 a8 92 01 20 00 …xu… .
0060 : 0d 10 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4488 MB
: 4706076672 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - .@…R…fx…
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02…
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 38 D5 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - …""…8…|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x…|…q…|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w…0…
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 70 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - …0…p…@…
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 78 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 F0 D5 05 00 - …x…N.N…


#11

Marca del disco: Plextor -R 8x
Tipo di disco: Disco masterizzato come DVD-Video
La confezione riporta la dicitura “Made in Japan”


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [TYG02]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS04]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG02]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 10 66 78 80 00 .@…R…fx…
0010 : 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TYG02…
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0e 11 87 78 80 00 …"" …x…
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 13 0d 10 0e 07 00 …
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 06 18 17 85 78 75 00 0c d6 89 a8 92 01 20 00 …xu… .
0060 : 0d 10 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707319808 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information : recorded with BENQ DVD DD DW1640
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - .@…R…fx…
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02…
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 B0 DD 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - …""…|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x…|…q…|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w…0…
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 E8 DD 05 00 40 00 01 00 - …0…@…
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 F0 DC 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 68 DE 05 00 - …N.N.h…


#12

Marca del disco: Plextor +R 8x
Tipo di disco: Disco non masterizzato
La confezione riporta la dicitura “Made in Japan”


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS04]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02 8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a #T7…Nr…c…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 …88.4c…""…
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 …4c…""…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 …Tp.NdJ …
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 …gdN …0
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : YUDEN000 T02 (000)
Write speeds: : 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - …&.?..
0010 - 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 - …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7…Nr…c…
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - …
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 - …88.4c…""…
0050 - 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 00 00 - …4c…""…
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 4E 64 4A 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 - …Tp.NdJ…
0070 - 00 00 02 67 64 4E 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 - …gdN…0


#13

Marca del disco: Verbatim -R 8x Advanced Azo
Tipo di disco: Disco non masterizzato
La confezione riporta la dicitura “Made in Japan” e “Pastel disc”


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [TYG02]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS04]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG02]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 10 66 78 80 00 .@…R…fx…
0010 : 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TYG02…
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0e 11 87 78 80 00 …"" …x…
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 13 0d 10 0e 07 00 …
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 06 18 17 85 78 75 00 0c d6 89 a8 92 01 20 00 …xu… .
0060 : 0d 10 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4488 MB
: 4706076672 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - .@…R…fx…
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02…
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 38 D5 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - …""…8…|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x…|…q…|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w…0…
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 70 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - …0…p…@…
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 78 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 F0 D5 05 00 - …x…N.N…


#14

Marca del disco: Verbatim +R 8x Advanced Azo
Tipo di disco: Disco non masterizzato
La confezione riporta la dicitura “Made in Japan” e “Pastel Disc”


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS04]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02 8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a #T7…Nr…c…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 …88.4c…""…
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 …4c…""…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 …Tp.NdJ …
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 …gdN …0
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

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Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : YUDEN000 T02 (000)
Write speeds: : 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - …&.?..
0010 - 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 - …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7…Nr…c…
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - …
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 - …88.4c…""…
0050 - 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 00 00 - …4c…""…
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 4E 64 4A 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 - …Tp.NdJ…
0070 - 00 00 02 67 64 4E 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 - …gdN…0


#15

Al momento le uniche differenze che sono stato in grado di postare sono quelle tra il Plextor -R non masterizzato e quelle del plextor -R masterizzato come DVD-video.

Appena avrò altre informazioni aggiornerò questo thread


#16

Eccellente! :iagree:

ET


#17

Come disse Biscardi, con la sua eccezionale padronanza delle lingue,

DENGHIU :bigsmile:


#18

Ecco qui un ulteriore aggiornamento. Queste sono le informazioni relative a un DVD Verbatim +R 8x Pastel disc. Questo disco è stato masterizzato con booktype ROM e contiene un DVD video.

Come per gli altri post, le informazioni provengono da dvd-identifier e da cd-dvd speed, con un masterizzatore liteon 1693


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS0A]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02 8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a #T7…Nr…c…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 …88.4c…""…
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 …4c…""…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 …Tp.NdJ …
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 …gdN …0
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

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Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : YUDEN000 T02 (000)
Write speeds: : 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E1 2F 00 00 00 00 - …%./…
0010 - 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 - …YUDEN000T02.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7…Nr…c…
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - …
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 - …88.4c…""…
0050 - 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 00 00 - …4c…""…
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 4E 64 4A 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 - …Tp.NdJ…
0070 - 00 00 02 67 64 4E 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 - …gdN…0


#19

Verbatim -R 8x Pastel disc Made in Japan
Masterizzato come DVD-video

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707319808 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information : recorded with BENQ DVD DD DW1640
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - .@…R…fx…
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02…
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 B0 DD 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - …""…|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x…|…q…|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w…0…
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 E8 DD 05 00 40 00 01 00 - …0…@…
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 F0 DC 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 68 DE 05 00 - …N.N.h…


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [TYG02]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S [FW KS0A]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG02]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 10 66 78 80 00 .@…R…fx…
0010 : 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TYG02…
0020 : 05 aa a2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0e 11 87 78 80 00 …"" …x…
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 13 0d 10 0e 07 00 …
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 06 18 17 85 78 75 00 0c d6 89 a8 92 01 20 00 …xu… .
0060 : 0d 10 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

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