Petspeed: that’s not the point what is more compatibe. The point is that what you can use and what you can’t. Actually DVD- can be used much better for nearly ANYTHING you just wish to, compared to DVD+. DVD+R might BE better a day, when you can get an empty DVD+R disk, AND (!) manufacturers like Ricoh and others won’t let customers down AND exchange all their lame drives that they SOLD to us saying that DVD+R won’t be a problem, which was NOT true. And now, here is a drive, and you (and they) talk about DVD+R (and compatibility) and phew, what the hell can I do with the lame Ricoh drive (and its superior “compatibility”), when it writes only DVD+RW… (gimme a suggestion anyway…) So, I admit that comparing a write ONCE media to a REWRITEABLE is not a fair thing, (and that is not what I wanted to expess) but that’s the reason I don’t understand why they cheat us, not exchanging all drives that are REWRITABLE compatible ONLY… Exchanging all the 1st generation drives even at some price would make peace and we could see if dvd+ will be better than dvd-. But at this point I won’t waste more money on DVD+ and anything that is made by any of the “DVD+ Alliance” until the case we (many people who BELIVED the DVD+ Alliance members)actually see won’t be cleared. Til that, I don’t trust them anymore and rather use my Pioneer DVD- that was sold as it is, at least it creates PERFECT DVD’s. (which can be read anywhere, while it was hard to find anything that could read the DVD+RW disk except the DVD+RW writer…) regards, Stephen pS: and let’s not say that when someone PROMISE something on the BOX and in adverts, then how fair is it to say that “we were wrong, sorry” just to sell some MORE drives. Will anyone on Earth (who once was cheated by them) buy anything from them…? (doubt it…) anyway I won’t, that’s sure.