HP 16x DVD+R (made by CMC)

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#1

I picked up a 50 disc spindle of HP DVD+R Single Layer at Staples (Staples link) today for $12.98 at Staples. The HP spindle was sitting on the shelf where there was supposed to be a Staples-brand 50 spindle for $12.98 but the HPs had been moved. They wanted $29 at first but discounted the price to $12.98 b/c of a long wait on line (plus, I had just bought a 1 TB Seagate external hdd for $109!). DVD Identifier v 5.20 says that the HP discs are CMC (“CMC MAG”) and that the Media Type ID is M01.

I am very happy with the price but I didn’t notice until I got home that the HP discs are 16x while my computer’s burner is 4x - - will my burner be able to use these discs (I don’t want to upgrade the burner unless absolutely necessary)?


#2

This is the Staples-branded 50 disc spindle for $12.98 (I didn’t get these) -
http://www.staples.com/Staples-50-Pack-4.7GB-DVD-R-Spindle/product_623598?cmArea=SC3:CG1039:DP2096:CL142439


#3

open up Imgburn/write function and pop in a disc and it will show you the supported speed of the disc with your burner


#4

Ok, I’m looking at ImgBurn and under the Device tab it says that my burner is:
ATAPI DVD DUAL 4XMax 2.60 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R

In the Settings section it says that Write Speed is AWS (MAX) but there’s a drop-down box where I can select 4x.


#5

Your burner might/should be able to burn them @4x but those CMC MAG M01’s
are not very good quality disc’s to start with, and burning them @4x they may
or may not burn ok but don’t hold your breath as your 4x burner probably does
not have the correct write strategy for them. :disagree:

If I were you I would very,very, seriously consider getting a newer burner as they
can use the faster burning 16x discs and have the correct write strategies for all
of todays higher speed media than the older 4x burners have. :iagree:


#6

[QUOTE=getit29;2497293]
If I were you I would very,very, seriously consider getting a newer burner as they
can use the faster burning 16x discs and have the correct write strategies for all
of todays higher speed media than the older 4x burners have. :iagree:[/QUOTE]

Any recommendations on the burner brand (as in which ones to avoid)? I’m browsing Newegg and I want to keep the price under $50. I’ll probably get an external burner for now from Staples or someplace (are those called “eSATA” - ?).

As for the CMC discs, do they lose info. over time or what? I know that TY & Verbatim are some of the best discs (and I have used them in my 4x burner) but they’re out of my price range for now.

Thanks for the advice!:cool:


#7

[QUOTE=borat007;2497298]Any recommendations on the burner brand (as in which ones to avoid)? I’m browsing Newegg and I want to keep the price under $50. I’ll probably get an external burner for now from Staples or someplace (are those called “eSATA” - ?).

As for the CMC discs, do they lose info. over time or what? I know that TY & Verbatim are some of the best discs (and I have used them in my 4x burner) but they’re out of my price range for now.

Thanks for the advice!:cool:[/QUOTE]

If you get an external burner you will need to get a USB instead of eSATA unless you have
an add in eSATA card in your system now. By the sound of you still using a 4x burner I’ll
have to think you do not have any SATA ports on your mobo and you’re only using IDE devices
(ie) hdd and burner. If you do not have any SATA ports on the mobo that you can use you might
want to use a IDE burner or get an add in SATA card if you have a free PCI slot but if going with
a add in card make sure to get one with the Sil chip set as they work better with DVD burners.

Now as for the CMC discs you will want to do a quality test on them right after burning them to
make sure they burned right as that is where the problem is… getting a good burn from them
to start with and re-do the quality scan every month or two to make sure they are not degrading
to much so you don’t loose all your data on them. Usually if you get a good burn to start with they
are pretty good about lasting but I still wouldn’t want to put anything on them that is un-replaceable.

[U][B]Okay here is some ideals on hardware for you to think about.[/B][/U][U]

[B]IDE burners to think about:[/B]

[/U]SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM
16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151175

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM
16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151176

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM
48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

[U][B]SATA burners to think about:[/B][/U]

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM
48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030

SAMSUNG 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R
4X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24x DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151193

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 2MB Cache
SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118032

[U][B]SATA PCI add in cards with the Sil chip set:[/B][/U]

MASSCOOL PCI Card, 2 internal SATA Model XWT-RC041
with the [B]Silicon Image SIL 3112 host controller chip [/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815280004

[B][U]and one of the cards that I use in my system[/U][/B]

MASSCOOL PCI Card, 4 internal SATA Model XWT-RC040
with the [B]Silicon Image SIL 3114 host controller chip [/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815280003

And if you want an[B] eSATA [/B]port on your card
MASSCOOL 1 x eSATA + 2 x SATA PCI Card Model XWT-RC061
with the [B]Silicon Image SIL 3512 host controller chip[/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815280005


#8

Thank you very very much for taking the time to compile that very detailed post. Although my burner and cd-rom drives are old 4x MSI units the rest of my custom-built PC was overhauled recently and I now have an ASUS P5E-VM HDMI mobo and an Intel Core2 Duo E4600 @ 2.40 GHz CPU. Re an internal (IDE) burner, what do you think of this Pioneer DVR-118LBK (I don’t need LightScribe)? I have a $25 gift certificate at Amazon so the Pioneer would only cost me $10.51 (using their Free Super Saver shipping).

I’ve not burned too many discs on my PC but I do have this Pioneer HDD/DVD recorder, which I have been using to backup my VHS tapes. I have mostly used either TY or Verbatim discs in the past but the price and availability of the CMC (HP) DVD+Rs was too good to pass up today. I’m still debating whether or not I should return them (I opened the spindle case to ID the disc mfr.). Your idea to quality test them is great and I will do that.


#9

Not to sure about the Pioneer burner as I’ve never used that brand before
but looking at the reviews on newegg it has half as many very poor ratings
as it does excellent ratings 18 excellent vs 9 very poor and 3 poor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16827129043

Okay for $14.51 only $4.00 more at Amazon you can pick up the
Samsung SH-S222L/BEBS Internal Half Height Supermulti PATA
22X Lightscribe DVD-Writable Drive at least I know they are decent
drives as I’ve used a couple of them in builds for other people and
they love them. :iagree: :clap:

But if you want to go with the Pioneer then by all means go for it don’t let
me be the one to talk you out of it. :bigsmile:


#10

[QUOTE=getit29;2497381] Not to sure about the Pioneer burner as I’ve never used that brand before
but looking at the reviews on newegg it has half as many very poor ratings
as it does excellent ratings 18 excellent vs 9 very poor and 3 poor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16827129043[/quote]

This is true but when you filter the Newegg reviews for the last 2 weeks there is 1 “4 egg”; 1 “3 egg”; and 1 “5 egg”, as follows:

Pros:This DVD burner is extremely fast and efficient. On the contrary to other reviews, this burner is amazingly silent. Great deal for the money, and I would highly recommend this item to anyone looking into purchasing a new DVD writer.
Cons: No cons.
Other Thoughts: I love this burner. I only wish that the DVD+R DL discs weren’t so expensive, but they are worth it.”

The negative reviews are mostly about it being noisy and occasionally DOA.

[QUOTE=getit29;2497381]Okay for $14.51 only $4.00 more at Amazon you can pick up the
Samsung SH-S222L/BEBS Internal Half Height Supermulti PATA
22X Lightscribe DVD-Writable Drive at least I know they are decent
drives as I’ve used a couple of them in builds for other people and
they love them. :iagree: :clap:

The Samsung is a great option but I don’t need or want a LightScribe-capable burner - I have purchased & used the SureThing v5 labeler along with Verbatim White Inkjet Hub Printable discs in the recent past. But just b/c the Sammy is LightScribe-capable doesn’t mean that I have to use it for printing. Also, Newegg has 2 “5 egg” reviews for the SH-S222L burner in the last 2 weeks and the Pros are that it is a quiet burner.

[QUOTE=getit29;2497381]But if you want to go with the Pioneer then by all means go for it don’t let
me be the one to talk you out of it. :bigsmile:[/QUOTE]

Now I’m wondering who actually makes the Pioneer burners…


#11

I’m just adding to the good advise given above.

If you could somehow get a hold of a new Pioneer DVR-115/116/117, or a variation thereof (the EXT models, etc), I would highly recommend those, I don’t have any experience with the 118 model. But to date, any of those burners will give you very high quality burns on most “GOOD” or better media.

If you’re looking for a really good SATA burner with PIE/PIF/Jitter scanning, then the

LiteOn iHAS424-08 not the iHAS424-98, that’s just an NEC rebadge, is my top choice.


#12

A bargain price for a 50-pack HP 16x DVD+R would be $3-$5


#13

[QUOTE=camellote;2497629]A bargain price for a 50-pack HP 16x DVD+R would be $3-$5[/QUOTE]

So I have learned. :bow: Staples will accept the opened cake box for a refund so I can get my $12.98 back. And, this HP-labelled 50-pack of CMC MAG M01discs was originally listed for $26.98! :eek: