How to get at big vinyl ripped FLAC file to a cd in wav format

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#1

I have some flac files thatare ripped from vinyl. The flac files from one album is usally around 800-1000 Mb and when converted into wav, it is of course to big for a cd-r. My Nero application doesn’t recognize the format. What am I supposed to do? Burn a high-res music DVD? Help!


#2

Standard RedBook Audio CD is 16bit/44.1khz/pcm/wav…So if you’re wanting to burn a standard audio CD then you can only burn ~74-80 min of audio…Either split your flac file to fit a typical 700mb CD disc’s playing time of 74-80 min, or burn your flacs as DATA and fit as many as you can fill on disc…Or compress to a lossy format e.g MP3 or AAC/m4a and fit even more tracks on 700mb disc, again burning a DATA CD…your choice…
Not sure about Ner0, since I don’t use it, but there’s plenty other good app/proggies to try…burrrn, Imgburn, CDburnerXP, BurnAware free, just to name a few…
If you need to split your flac file(s) there’s Audacity, or foobar2k is what I use for single image splitting, or converting from flac> <Wav…
If you must use Nero, you can easily decode/convert the flacs back to it’s WAV format, and import in Nero…
Good luck!..


#3

My understanding & I think t0nee1 is the one that managed to get me to see it this way.
It is the legnth of time that really matters.
If for example the legnth of your converted to .wav files a total 74 minutes including the 2 second gap between songs a possibly a little time for lead-in & lead -out. They should fit on a 74 minute CD -R.
If the time legnth is longer they will not fit.


#4

@ OP, forgot to mention that the burning apps mentioned will burn a standard Audio CD from the flac(s)…The decoding/converting to wav is done on-the fly(IOW in the background)…
No need to have wav for importing…Most all decent burning apps will decode/decompress and burn this way (Imgburn needs a CUE file)…I [I]guess[/I] Nero is the exception, who would’ve thunk!..:rolleyes:


#5

And as a side note, you have to have the correct DirectShow filters installed if you want to make a cue file from the flac files using ImgBurn. These work: http://xiph.org/dshow/


#6

Thanks kerry56…I usually forget to mention the needed DirectShow filters when recommending ImgBurn as an alternative to burning an Audio CD…:iagree::wink:
Cheers, and have a great holiday…:slight_smile:


#7

I might be behind but the ImgBurn guide I read & used to set up burning other files like FLAC actually used one of the FLAC directshowfilters like madFLAC.
I do also have the xiph.org ogg codecs installed as well so I’m not sure which ImgBurn actually uses .
I know it works fine with a cue of FLAC files.


#8

I have the xiph.org ogg codecs, works for me…
From the Imgburn forum, so either one should work just fine AFAIK…Frankly, I normally create a CUE sheet(though rarely) when ripping with EAC…

"ImgBurn relies on DirectShow / ACM for decoding your audio files.

As such, you’ll need to have the appropriate filters installed for the types of files you’ll be burning.

Support for MP3, PCM, WAV and WMA should be built into Windows - at least it is on XP / Vista.

For other file types, try the following:

AAC - CoreAAC - http://www.free-codecs.com/download/CoreAA...show_filter.htm
AAC - ORBAN - http://www.orban.com/plugin/
APE - Monkey’s Audio - http://www.monkeysaudio.com/
[B]FLAC - madFlac - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130498[/B]
M4A - CoreAAC - http://www.free-codecs.com/download/CoreAA...show_filter.htm
M4A - ORBAN - http://www.orban.com/plugin/
MPC - Radlight - http://www.free-codecs.com/download/RadLig...Show_Filter.htm
OGG - CoreVorbis - http://www.free-codecs.com/download/CoreVorbis.htm
OGG - Radlight - http://www.free-codecs.com/download/RadLig...Show_filter.htm
[B]OGG - xiph - http://www.xiph.org/dshow/[/B]
WV - WavPack - http://www.wavpack.com/downloads.html


#9

The file is prob to long, just split it. Hmm convert it to WAV and then use Split Wave or some sim freeware app.

However that seems awfully long, what’s the max time a vinyal can hold? I doubt it’s more then 74 min? :eek:


#10

Best method IMO would be to load the file into Audacity, split into tracks and export them as CDDA compatible WAV.

However that seems awfully long, what’s the max time a vinyal can hold? I doubt it’s more then 74 min?
That was my first thought also. Anything above 30 minutes can’t be from a vinyl disc. :cop:
Also, from a vinyl disc, the music is not ripped, but recorded :cool:

Michael


#11

[QUOTE=mciahel;2559615]Best method IMO would be to load the file into Audacity, split into tracks and export them as CDDA compatible WAV.

That was my first thought also. [B]Anything above 30 minutes can’t be from a vinyl disc.[/B] :cop:
Also, from a vinyl disc, the music is not ripped, but recorded :cool:

Michael[/QUOTE]

I have some Verbatim Digital Vinyl CD-r which holds 700MB/[B]80 min[/B]


#12

[QUOTE=StormJumper;2559618]I have some Verbatim Digital Vinyl CD-r which holds 700MB/[B]80 min[/B][/QUOTE]

That’s CD-R I was asking about Real Vinyl Records (LP) which he transfered the music from. :wink:


#13

[QUOTE=mciahel;2559615]
That was my first thought also. [B]Anything above 30 minutes can’t be from a vinyl disc.[/B] :cop:

Michael[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ.
I’ve seen and listened to vinyl recordings which hold approx. 40 minutes of music on a single side. That were full sized vinyls, not smaller ones (singles) of course.


#14

[QUOTE=tubebar;2559619]That’s CD-R [B]I was asking[/B] about Real Vinyl [B]Records (LP)[/B] which he transfered the music from. ;)[/QUOTE]

You or mojotojo or are you both members :confused: if so why two user names and I didn’t see LP records posted in post #1 :doh:


#15

[QUOTE=chef;2559641]I beg to differ.
I’ve seen and listened to vinyl recordings which hold approx. 40 minutes of music on a single side. That were full sized vinyls, not smaller ones (singles) of course.[/QUOTE]But these are really rare exceptions. :slight_smile:
There is a nice article about that in the German Wikipedia.

[QUOTE=StormJumper;2559667]I didn’t see LP records posted in post #1 :doh:[/QUOTE]"… ripped from vinyl"

Michael


#16

“… ripped from vinyl”

A question of semantics, perhaps?..Anyhow it’s not unusual to transfer/capture/rip several tracks from whatever media, be it vinyl, CD’s, etc. and have one large single wav, flac, or mp3 file…
Perhaps the OP can elaborate, if s/he chooses to do so…Not that I care, shrugs since the OP asked for help on how to get a flac file to burn with Nero…

My Nero application doesn’t recognize the format.


#17

[QUOTE=mciahel;2559707]But these are really rare exceptions. :slight_smile:
There is a nice article about that in the German Wikipedia.

Michael[/QUOTE]

Hey, thanks for that nice link!
I like it especially due to the fact that it mentions DT64, Welle Erdball and Information Society… :flower:


#18

Here’s an extract from the English version of Wikipedia regading LP lengths.

When initially introduced, 12-inch LPs played for a maximum of 45 minutes, divided over two sides. However, in 1952, Columbia Records began to bring out extended-play LPs that played for as long as 52 minutes, or 26 minutes per side. These were used mainly for the original cast albums of some Broadway musicals, such as Kiss Me, Kate and My Fair Lady, or in order to fit an entire play, such as the 1950 production of Don Juan in Hell, onto just two LPs.

The 52+ minute playing time remained rare, however, because of mastering limitations, and most LPs continued to be issued with a 30- to 45-minute playing time throughout the lifetime of their production. However, some albums would eventually exceed even the 52-minute limitation, with single albums going to as long as ninety minutes in the case of Arthur Fiedler’s 1976 LP 90 Minutes with Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops, made by Radio Shack. However, such records had to be cut with much narrower spacing between the grooves, which allowed for a much smaller amount of dynamic range on the records, and meant that playing the record with a worn needle could damage the record.

It also resulted in a much quieter sound. (Other notably long albums included the UK version of The Rolling Stones’ Aftermath; La Monte Young’s Dream House 78’ 17", whose two sides were each just under 40 minutes; Bob Dylan’s 1976 album Desire, with side two being just shy of thirty minutes; Brian Eno’s 1975 album Discreet Music, whose A-side exceeded thirty minutes; and Todd Rundgren’s Initiation, totalling 67:32 over two sides).

Spoken word and comedy albums, not having a wide range of musical instrumentation to reproduce, can be cut with much narrower spacing between the grooves; for example, The Comic Strip, released by Springtime Records in 1981, has a Side A lasting 38:04 and a Side B lasting 31:08, for a total of 69:12.

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#20

I would use Format Factory, it’s open-source, completely free, and can convert anything to anything.

http://www.formatoz.com/