How does one cirumvent fake sized VOB files?

I have a DVD of a live performance I was involved in and wish to make a backup copy. I own a copy of DVDFab 5 and even upgraded to DVDFab 6, however only unlocking the DVD to DVD with my DVDFab 5 license. Regardless of whichever software I use, the end result is the same.

The DVD is not encrypted with anything. The only strange thing about it, which I’ve never seen before is that despite the fact that is your standard SL Verbatim DVDR (4.7gb), if you look onto the contents of the DVD itself, it thinks VIDEO_TS is ~366gb in size. Quite obviously it is impossible to have something that large when the limitation is 4.7gb. I’ve tried using Windows, MAC, Linux and FreeBSD (I’ve proficiencies in all of them).

Pretty much any DVD software I use will open VTS_01_0.VOB and VTS_01_1.VOB, then fail out with I/O issues. It seems the next part of the disk that contains any real content isn’t until VOB 33, otherwise it hangs any other software.

Specifically to DVDFab, it doesn’t fail. It just reads the beginning of the disk, then finishes as expected, however, it is only the first 26s of the disk and doesn’t contain the actual content of the disk itself.

If you view the contents of the disk, there are files going from VTS_01_0.VOB VTS_01_1.VOB to VTS_99_0.VOB VTS_99_1.VOB with occasionally throwing in a VTS_##_2.VOB on certain titles.

The sizes also follow a pattern, for example:

VTS_03_0.IFO 38 KB
VTS_03_0.VOB 114 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB 1,048,574 KB
VTS_03_2.VOB 240,018 KB

However, if you’re familiar with *nix, running file against those VOB says it can’t tell what kind of data it is (meaning it’s likely fake data), which is the case for most of the VOBs.

The only program that showed anything different was CloneDVD. Titleset 34 (which corresponds to VOB 33)was the right size while the others weren’t. It did make an iso of the DVD, of the right size, but the menu’s don’t work in the sense that they loop on themselves. I click play, it starts back over at the menu’s and that is the closest I’ve gotten. I can manually play the VOB when I explore the disk, but that’s not good enough.

The disk itself is not damage and plays fine in both commercial players and computers of varying OS’s. Has anyone heard of this sort of file trickery before and if so, how do I get it to play nice, specifically with DVDFab?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=lahnipm;2285048]I have a DVD of a live performance I was involved in and wish to make a backup copy. I own a copy of DVDFab 5 and even upgraded to DVDFab 6, however only unlocking the DVD to DVD with my DVDFab 5 license. Regardless of whichever software I use, the end result is the same.

The DVD is not encrypted with anything. The only strange thing about it, which I’ve never seen before is that despite the fact that is your standard SL Verbatim DVDR (4.7gb), if you look onto the contents of the DVD itself, it thinks VIDEO_TS is ~366gb in size. Quite obviously it is impossible to have something that large when the limitation is 4.7gb. I’ve tried using Windows, MAC, Linux and FreeBSD (I’ve proficiencies in all of them).

Pretty much any DVD software I use will open VTS_01_0.VOB and VTS_01_1.VOB, then fail out with I/O issues. It seems the next part of the disk that contains any real content isn’t until VOB 33, otherwise it hangs any other software.

Specifically to DVDFab, it doesn’t fail. It just reads the beginning of the disk, then finishes as expected, however, it is only the first 26s of the disk and doesn’t contain the actual content of the disk itself.

If you view the contents of the disk, there are files going from VTS_01_0.VOB VTS_01_1.VOB to VTS_99_0.VOB VTS_99_1.VOB with occasionally throwing in a VTS_##_2.VOB on certain titles.

The sizes also follow a pattern, for example:

VTS_03_0.IFO 38 KB
VTS_03_0.VOB 114 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB 1,048,574 KB
VTS_03_2.VOB 240,018 KB

However, if you’re familiar with *nix, running file against those VOB says it can’t tell what kind of data it is (meaning it’s likely fake data), which is the case for most of the VOBs.

The only program that showed anything different was CloneDVD. Titleset 34 (which corresponds to VOB 33)was the right size while the others weren’t. It did make an iso of the DVD, of the right size, but the menu’s don’t work in the sense that they loop on themselves. I click play, it starts back over at the menu’s and that is the closest I’ve gotten. I can manually play the VOB when I explore the disk, but that’s not good enough.

The disk itself is not damage and plays fine in both commercial players and computers of varying OS’s. Has anyone heard of this sort of file trickery before and if so, how do I get it to play nice, specifically with DVDFab?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

And you say there’s no file encryption on it! Well, maybe not, if you don’t count DVD structure manipulation as file encryption…(CSS is the only real encryption method used - all the rest is file and sector manipulation).

Don’t know of any way to make it ‘play nice’ with DVDFab. By the time you’ve got it cleaned up and all the cr-- off it, you won’t have any need for Fab to work with it at all.

If you want to back it up, suggest you rip the good VOBs, and the title-set with the looping menus to a folder on your HD, (suggest you rip to a folder with AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS ready as sub-folders, and put the files in the VIDEO_TS folder), then run FixVTS on it.

That should clean it up enough to burn with Imgburn, or whatever burner you favour, and should get the menus working properly, too.

Good luck.

OC

:slight_smile:

Actually, the above is a bit of a simplification of what you’ll really end up doing. If the DVD plays Ok, then there must be at least one good menu file (probably not the first one) along with the good content VOBs. May be easier to transfer all files to your HD and let FixVTS work on the whole thing, rather than selected files you transfer. When you run FixVTS, start with the first IFO file, and select ‘ALL VOBs’, and let it work. The end result should be burnable, unless there’s other hidden surprises in there.

Unfortunately I cannot copy the entire disk. It is wanting to copy ~366gb worth of data that obviously isn’t there (since I know 100% it is a Verbatim SL DVDR) and as a result I get I/O issues and subsequent hanging while trying to copy.

Is there an easier way of detecting which are the good VOBs?

lahnipm
If this problematic disc plays fine in a standalone DVD player you can copy it using a method I use which works even if it is encrypted or not, however you must have a TV tuner/capture card installed in the computer which you connect the standalone DVD player directly to the computer via the capture card and when you start playing the DVD in the DVDplayer hit record using the software which should be provided with the capture card.
I have WinFast PVR2 which works great for all my problematic DVD’s that are unreadable by my drives :smiley: it will even burn directly to disc :bigsmile:

I own a capture card but this wouldn’t retain menu function and chapter settings, would it?

I currently use the capture card with mythtv, but easy enough through linux.

[QUOTE=lahnipm;2285107]I own a capture card but this wouldn’t retain menu function and chapter settings, would it?

I currently use the capture card with mythtv, but easy enough through linux.[/QUOTE]

Once I copy via capture card I then run the results through a program called DVD Flick which converts it into DVD compliant format which also has the ability to create menus and chapters :wink: course the menu will not be the same but it is something you may want to look into :smiley:
It is an option for you at least :wink:

SJ :cool:

Ah, ok. That’s what I figured you were suggesting. I appreciate the suggestion and what I may end up doing if I can’t retain it’s playability.

However, since it isn’t actually encrypted (if you don’t count structure manipulation as one), I can actually just copy VOB 33 (which is where the video seems to be at) but I want to retain the menu functionality as well.

have you tried using dvdfabs clone mode?

also have you tried making an ISO using ImgBurn Read Mode?

[QUOTE=troy512;2285122]have you tried using dvdfabs clone mode?

also have you tried making an ISO using ImgBurn Read Mode?[/QUOTE]

Hrm, I haven’t tried Clone mode in DVDFab simply because I cannot copy all the VOBs as is (because I believe the OS is being tricked as to their true size, case and point by being reported larger than the media it is on). If it does a simply copy, I’m 99% certain it won’t work and will fail with I/O errors, but I’ll give it a go and see what I get.

I can’t recall if I’ve tried ImgBurn’s Read Mode. Does this attempt at making an ISO as if you’re watching the DVD itself? What are the advantages of doing such a method?

Also, just as an FYI, on Windows, if I do try to copy of any invalid VOBs, I get the following error:

Error Copying File or Folder
Cannot copy VTS_##_#.VOB: Data error (Cyclic redundancy check)

This is essentially the wall any software hits when trying to copy the data off itself when it gets to one of the fake-sized vobs.

To further illustrate the issue, here’s some additional information as well directly from the disk. I apologize for the length of this. This is from my mac, closest thing I have at the time to *nix to get this type of information.

user$ df -h | grep disk2
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/disk2 1.4Gi 1.4Gi 0Bi 100% /Volumes/DVD

user$ cd /Volumes/DVD/
user$ du -h
119G ./VIDEO_TS
2.0K ./AUDIO_TS
36K ./JACKET_P
119G .

Right away you can see the problem. 1.4Gi yet 119Gi (despite me actually saying ~366gb earlier, this is disk 2, awards ceremony, thus why the size is different from my earlier comments) when you actually look inside the VIDEO_TS. And last but not least, the actual contents of VIDEO_TS:

I just used awk to grab the file size and file name, so disregard that if you are unfamiliar with *nix.

user$ ls -lah |awk ‘{print $5 " " $9}’

25K .
184B …
88K VIDEO_TS.BUP
88K VIDEO_TS.IFO
114K VIDEO_TS.VOB
40K VTS_01_0.BUP
40K VTS_01_0.IFO
81M VTS_01_0.VOB
5.6M VTS_01_1.VOB
18K VTS_02_0.BUP
18K VTS_02_0.IFO
114K VTS_02_0.VOB
4.2M VTS_02_1.VOB
38K VTS_03_0.BUP
38K VTS_03_0.IFO
114K VTS_03_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_03_1.VOB
234M VTS_03_2.VOB
38K VTS_04_0.BUP
38K VTS_04_0.IFO
114K VTS_04_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_04_1.VOB
234M VTS_04_2.VOB
38K VTS_05_0.BUP
38K VTS_05_0.IFO
114K VTS_05_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_05_1.VOB
234M VTS_05_2.VOB
38K VTS_06_0.BUP
38K VTS_06_0.IFO
114K VTS_06_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_06_1.VOB
234M VTS_06_2.VOB
38K VTS_07_0.BUP
38K VTS_07_0.IFO
114K VTS_07_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_07_1.VOB
234M VTS_07_2.VOB
38K VTS_08_0.BUP
38K VTS_08_0.IFO
114K VTS_08_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_08_1.VOB
234M VTS_08_2.VOB
38K VTS_09_0.BUP
38K VTS_09_0.IFO
114K VTS_09_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_09_1.VOB
234M VTS_09_2.VOB
38K VTS_10_0.BUP
38K VTS_10_0.IFO
114K VTS_10_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_10_1.VOB
234M VTS_10_2.VOB
38K VTS_11_0.BUP
38K VTS_11_0.IFO
114K VTS_11_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_11_1.VOB
234M VTS_11_2.VOB
38K VTS_12_0.BUP
38K VTS_12_0.IFO
114K VTS_12_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_12_1.VOB
234M VTS_12_2.VOB
38K VTS_13_0.BUP
38K VTS_13_0.IFO
114K VTS_13_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_13_1.VOB
234M VTS_13_2.VOB
38K VTS_14_0.BUP
38K VTS_14_0.IFO
114K VTS_14_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_14_1.VOB
234M VTS_14_2.VOB
38K VTS_15_0.BUP
38K VTS_15_0.IFO
114K VTS_15_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_15_1.VOB
234M VTS_15_2.VOB
38K VTS_16_0.BUP
38K VTS_16_0.IFO
114K VTS_16_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_16_1.VOB
234M VTS_16_2.VOB
38K VTS_17_0.BUP
38K VTS_17_0.IFO
114K VTS_17_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_17_1.VOB
234M VTS_17_2.VOB
38K VTS_18_0.BUP
38K VTS_18_0.IFO
114K VTS_18_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_18_1.VOB
234M VTS_18_2.VOB
38K VTS_19_0.BUP
38K VTS_19_0.IFO
114K VTS_19_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_19_1.VOB
234M VTS_19_2.VOB
38K VTS_20_0.BUP
38K VTS_20_0.IFO
114K VTS_20_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_20_1.VOB
234M VTS_20_2.VOB
38K VTS_21_0.BUP
38K VTS_21_0.IFO
114K VTS_21_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_21_1.VOB
234M VTS_21_2.VOB
38K VTS_22_0.BUP
38K VTS_22_0.IFO
114K VTS_22_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_22_1.VOB
234M VTS_22_2.VOB
38K VTS_23_0.BUP
38K VTS_23_0.IFO
114K VTS_23_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_23_1.VOB
234M VTS_23_2.VOB
38K VTS_24_0.BUP
38K VTS_24_0.IFO
114K VTS_24_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_24_1.VOB
234M VTS_24_2.VOB
38K VTS_25_0.BUP
38K VTS_25_0.IFO
114K VTS_25_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_25_1.VOB
234M VTS_25_2.VOB
38K VTS_26_0.BUP
38K VTS_26_0.IFO
114K VTS_26_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_26_1.VOB
234M VTS_26_2.VOB
38K VTS_27_0.BUP
38K VTS_27_0.IFO
114K VTS_27_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_27_1.VOB
234M VTS_27_2.VOB
38K VTS_28_0.BUP
38K VTS_28_0.IFO
114K VTS_28_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_28_1.VOB
234M VTS_28_2.VOB
38K VTS_29_0.BUP
38K VTS_29_0.IFO
114K VTS_29_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_29_1.VOB
234M VTS_29_2.VOB
38K VTS_30_0.BUP
38K VTS_30_0.IFO
114K VTS_30_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_30_1.VOB
234M VTS_30_2.VOB
38K VTS_31_0.BUP
38K VTS_31_0.IFO
114K VTS_31_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_31_1.VOB
234M VTS_31_2.VOB
38K VTS_32_0.BUP
38K VTS_32_0.IFO
114K VTS_32_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_32_1.VOB
234M VTS_32_2.VOB
38K VTS_33_0.BUP
38K VTS_33_0.IFO
114K VTS_33_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_33_1.VOB
234M VTS_33_2.VOB
38K VTS_34_0.BUP
38K VTS_34_0.IFO
114K VTS_34_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_34_1.VOB
234M VTS_34_2.VOB
38K VTS_35_0.BUP
38K VTS_35_0.IFO
114K VTS_35_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_35_1.VOB
234M VTS_35_2.VOB
38K VTS_36_0.BUP
38K VTS_36_0.IFO
114K VTS_36_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_36_1.VOB
234M VTS_36_2.VOB
38K VTS_37_0.BUP
38K VTS_37_0.IFO
114K VTS_37_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_37_1.VOB
234M VTS_37_2.VOB
38K VTS_38_0.BUP
38K VTS_38_0.IFO
114K VTS_38_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_38_1.VOB
234M VTS_38_2.VOB
38K VTS_39_0.BUP
38K VTS_39_0.IFO
114K VTS_39_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_39_1.VOB
234M VTS_39_2.VOB
38K VTS_40_0.BUP
38K VTS_40_0.IFO
114K VTS_40_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_40_1.VOB
234M VTS_40_2.VOB
38K VTS_41_0.BUP
38K VTS_41_0.IFO
114K VTS_41_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_41_1.VOB
234M VTS_41_2.VOB
38K VTS_42_0.BUP
38K VTS_42_0.IFO
114K VTS_42_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_42_1.VOB
234M VTS_42_2.VOB
38K VTS_43_0.BUP
38K VTS_43_0.IFO
114K VTS_43_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_43_1.VOB
234M VTS_43_2.VOB
38K VTS_44_0.BUP
38K VTS_44_0.IFO
114K VTS_44_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_44_1.VOB
234M VTS_44_2.VOB
38K VTS_45_0.BUP
38K VTS_45_0.IFO
114K VTS_45_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_45_1.VOB
234M VTS_45_2.VOB
38K VTS_46_0.BUP
38K VTS_46_0.IFO
114K VTS_46_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_46_1.VOB
234M VTS_46_2.VOB
38K VTS_47_0.BUP
38K VTS_47_0.IFO
114K VTS_47_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_47_1.VOB
234M VTS_47_2.VOB
38K VTS_48_0.BUP
38K VTS_48_0.IFO
114K VTS_48_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_48_1.VOB
234M VTS_48_2.VOB
38K VTS_49_0.BUP
38K VTS_49_0.IFO
114K VTS_49_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_49_1.VOB
234M VTS_49_2.VOB
38K VTS_50_0.BUP
38K VTS_50_0.IFO
114K VTS_50_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_50_1.VOB
234M VTS_50_2.VOB
38K VTS_51_0.BUP
38K VTS_51_0.IFO
114K VTS_51_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_51_1.VOB
234M VTS_51_2.VOB
38K VTS_52_0.BUP
38K VTS_52_0.IFO
114K VTS_52_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_52_1.VOB
234M VTS_52_2.VOB
38K VTS_53_0.BUP
38K VTS_53_0.IFO
114K VTS_53_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_53_1.VOB
234M VTS_53_2.VOB
38K VTS_54_0.BUP
38K VTS_54_0.IFO
114K VTS_54_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_54_1.VOB
234M VTS_54_2.VOB
38K VTS_55_0.BUP
38K VTS_55_0.IFO
114K VTS_55_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_55_1.VOB
234M VTS_55_2.VOB
38K VTS_56_0.BUP
38K VTS_56_0.IFO
114K VTS_56_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_56_1.VOB
234M VTS_56_2.VOB
38K VTS_57_0.BUP
38K VTS_57_0.IFO
114K VTS_57_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_57_1.VOB
234M VTS_57_2.VOB
38K VTS_58_0.BUP
38K VTS_58_0.IFO
114K VTS_58_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_58_1.VOB
234M VTS_58_2.VOB
38K VTS_59_0.BUP
38K VTS_59_0.IFO
114K VTS_59_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_59_1.VOB
234M VTS_59_2.VOB
38K VTS_60_0.BUP
38K VTS_60_0.IFO
114K VTS_60_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_60_1.VOB
234M VTS_60_2.VOB
38K VTS_61_0.BUP
38K VTS_61_0.IFO
114K VTS_61_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_61_1.VOB
234M VTS_61_2.VOB
38K VTS_62_0.BUP
38K VTS_62_0.IFO
114K VTS_62_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_62_1.VOB
234M VTS_62_2.VOB
38K VTS_63_0.BUP
38K VTS_63_0.IFO
114K VTS_63_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_63_1.VOB
234M VTS_63_2.VOB
38K VTS_64_0.BUP
38K VTS_64_0.IFO
114K VTS_64_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_64_1.VOB
234M VTS_64_2.VOB
38K VTS_65_0.BUP
38K VTS_65_0.IFO
114K VTS_65_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_65_1.VOB
234M VTS_65_2.VOB
38K VTS_66_0.BUP
38K VTS_66_0.IFO
114K VTS_66_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_66_1.VOB
234M VTS_66_2.VOB
38K VTS_67_0.BUP
38K VTS_67_0.IFO
114K VTS_67_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_67_1.VOB
234M VTS_67_2.VOB
38K VTS_68_0.BUP
38K VTS_68_0.IFO
114K VTS_68_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_68_1.VOB
234M VTS_68_2.VOB
38K VTS_69_0.BUP
38K VTS_69_0.IFO
114K VTS_69_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_69_1.VOB
234M VTS_69_2.VOB
38K VTS_70_0.BUP
38K VTS_70_0.IFO
114K VTS_70_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_70_1.VOB
234M VTS_70_2.VOB
38K VTS_71_0.BUP
38K VTS_71_0.IFO
114K VTS_71_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_71_1.VOB
234M VTS_71_2.VOB
38K VTS_72_0.BUP
38K VTS_72_0.IFO
114K VTS_72_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_72_1.VOB
234M VTS_72_2.VOB
38K VTS_73_0.BUP
38K VTS_73_0.IFO
114K VTS_73_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_73_1.VOB
234M VTS_73_2.VOB
38K VTS_74_0.BUP
38K VTS_74_0.IFO
114K VTS_74_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_74_1.VOB
234M VTS_74_2.VOB
38K VTS_75_0.BUP
38K VTS_75_0.IFO
114K VTS_75_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_75_1.VOB
234M VTS_75_2.VOB
38K VTS_76_0.BUP
38K VTS_76_0.IFO
114K VTS_76_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_76_1.VOB
234M VTS_76_2.VOB
38K VTS_77_0.BUP
38K VTS_77_0.IFO
114K VTS_77_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_77_1.VOB
234M VTS_77_2.VOB
38K VTS_78_0.BUP
38K VTS_78_0.IFO
114K VTS_78_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_78_1.VOB
234M VTS_78_2.VOB
38K VTS_79_0.BUP
38K VTS_79_0.IFO
114K VTS_79_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_79_1.VOB
234M VTS_79_2.VOB
38K VTS_80_0.BUP
38K VTS_80_0.IFO
114K VTS_80_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_80_1.VOB
234M VTS_80_2.VOB
38K VTS_81_0.BUP
38K VTS_81_0.IFO
114K VTS_81_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_81_1.VOB
234M VTS_81_2.VOB
38K VTS_82_0.BUP
38K VTS_82_0.IFO
114K VTS_82_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_82_1.VOB
234M VTS_82_2.VOB
38K VTS_83_0.BUP
38K VTS_83_0.IFO
114K VTS_83_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_83_1.VOB
234M VTS_83_2.VOB
38K VTS_84_0.BUP
38K VTS_84_0.IFO
114K VTS_84_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_84_1.VOB
234M VTS_84_2.VOB
38K VTS_85_0.BUP
38K VTS_85_0.IFO
114K VTS_85_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_85_1.VOB
234M VTS_85_2.VOB
38K VTS_86_0.BUP
38K VTS_86_0.IFO
114K VTS_86_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_86_1.VOB
234M VTS_86_2.VOB
38K VTS_87_0.BUP
38K VTS_87_0.IFO
114K VTS_87_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_87_1.VOB
234M VTS_87_2.VOB
38K VTS_88_0.BUP
38K VTS_88_0.IFO
114K VTS_88_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_88_1.VOB
234M VTS_88_2.VOB
38K VTS_89_0.BUP
38K VTS_89_0.IFO
114K VTS_89_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_89_1.VOB
234M VTS_89_2.VOB
38K VTS_90_0.BUP
38K VTS_90_0.IFO
114K VTS_90_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_90_1.VOB
234M VTS_90_2.VOB
38K VTS_91_0.BUP
38K VTS_91_0.IFO
114K VTS_91_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_91_1.VOB
234M VTS_91_2.VOB
38K VTS_92_0.BUP
38K VTS_92_0.IFO
114K VTS_92_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_92_1.VOB
234M VTS_92_2.VOB
38K VTS_93_0.BUP
38K VTS_93_0.IFO
114K VTS_93_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_93_1.VOB
234M VTS_93_2.VOB
38K VTS_94_0.BUP
38K VTS_94_0.IFO
114K VTS_94_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_94_1.VOB
234M VTS_94_2.VOB
38K VTS_95_0.BUP
38K VTS_95_0.IFO
114K VTS_95_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_95_1.VOB
234M VTS_95_2.VOB
38K VTS_96_0.BUP
38K VTS_96_0.IFO
114K VTS_96_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_96_1.VOB
234M VTS_96_2.VOB
38K VTS_97_0.BUP
38K VTS_97_0.IFO
114K VTS_97_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_97_1.VOB
234M VTS_97_2.VOB
38K VTS_98_0.BUP
38K VTS_98_0.IFO
114K VTS_98_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_98_1.VOB
234M VTS_98_2.VOB
38K VTS_99_0.BUP
38K VTS_99_0.IFO
114K VTS_99_0.VOB
1.0G VTS_99_1.VOB
234M VTS_99_2.VOB

And lastly:

user$ file VTS_33_*
VTS_33_0.BUP: Video title set, v11
VTS_33_0.IFO: Video title set, v11
VTS_33_0.VOB: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex
VTS_33_1.VOB: data
VTS_33_2.VOB: data

what program was used to make the video?

[QUOTE=troy512;2285140]what program was used to make the video?[/QUOTE]

Not sure, but it was done using a Mac. One of the programs I used I thought told me the program names, but I can’t seem to locate which one it was…

[QUOTE=lahnipm;2285099]Unfortunately I cannot copy the entire disk. It is wanting to copy ~366gb worth of data that obviously isn’t there (since I know 100% it is a Verbatim SL DVDR) and as a result I get I/O issues and subsequent hanging while trying to copy.

Is there an easier way of detecting which are the good VOBs?[/QUOTE]

Based on two things I see here, you may have found both.

As you reported, CloneDVD showed that titleset 34 (VOB sequence 33), seemed to be about the right size, and the *nix results you posted seemed to confirm that finding, as it indicates that VTS_33_0-2 are the only ones with more or less correct data.

On that basis alone, I’d be reasonably confident copying that VTS sequence, and that one alone, to a separate folder, and then running FixVTS on the VOBs, as it’ll both clean the VOBs of any problems, and update the IFO and BUP files to correctly reflect the available data (and allow the menus to function correctly).

I’d then run VLC Media Player to verify the results before I tried a burn.

Now, the stick-in-the-mud…I don’t think VLC Media Player will run on Linux, and I simply don’t know if FixVTS will. VLC can be replaced by any file player for Linux, but FixVTS is going to be alot harder to replace.

Maybe you have some thoughts on this?

P.S. I got the impression from one of your earlier posts that you are running Linux. If not, just ignore my comments re the software and its ability (or lack of) to run on Linux.

OC

:slight_smile:

I actually have access to any popular OS I need. I have to use each of them on a daily basis usually. I was just proposing that any solution doesn’t have to be OS specific. I’ve asked for help from many people I know prior to coming here and some have suggested stuff like k9copy which works only on Linux as an example.

Now, do I only move those files with the video to retain menu functionality? Or will that require searching for which VOB that is in as well?

Thanks for all your help thus far!

[QUOTE=lahnipm;2285235]I actually have access to any popular OS I need. I have to use each of them on a daily basis usually. I was just proposing that any solution doesn’t have to be OS specific. I’ve asked for help from many people I know prior to coming here and some have suggested stuff like k9copy which works only on Linux as an example.

Now, do I only move those files with the video to retain menu functionality? Or will that require searching for which VOB that is in as well?

Thanks for all your help thus far![/QUOTE]

Just to give you a quick breakdown…if this is stuff you already know, please just ignore this…

VTS_33_0 IFO & BUP - the navigation data needed for the menus and data files, locations, etc. and a backup file in case the IFO gets corrupted.

VTS_33_0 VOB - the actual graphic of the menu and any support needed for menu selection.

VTS_33_1 & 2 VOB - the actual data of the video and audio you want to see and hear. (plus navigation markers, time marks & other overhead stuff)

I believe all the data you need for a functioning DVD is in these files. There’s probably a pointer in VTS_0_0 IFO that points to this group, as a DVD player would need that to play the DVD properly, but you won’t need that IFO file to re-construct the DVD (minus all the cr–).

When you start FixVTS, simply point it at the first VOB (VTS_33_1.VOB, select all VOBs, and it’ll take care of the rest for you (including cleaning up the IFO and BUP files so even the original menus work).

After the cleanup completes, you may want to run a file player to confirm all is OK, before you start a burn.

P.S. Whether you want or don’t want to include the Jacket_P file is completely up to you…not necessary for the functioning of the DVD.

OC

:slight_smile:

Outstanding. I’ll give this a go now on my Windows machine and will report back on whether I’m jumping up and down for joy after fighting this the last week.

Well, it seems I can’t just copy those files straight off the disk. It simply ends up hanging as if it can’t read them properly.

However, I can point VLC directly to those VOBs and they play perfectly…grr!

[QUOTE=lahnipm;2285282]Well, it seems I can’t just copy those files straight off the disk. It simply ends up hanging as if it can’t read them properly.

However, I can point VLC directly to those VOBs and they play perfectly…grr![/QUOTE]

Don’t know if this’ll work or not…try Nero, Make DVD option.

When you get to the file selection menu, choose the VOBs in question, and see if Nero’ll rip 'em off your DVD. If that fails, do you know any utilities in Linux or Mac that might do the job?

OC

:slight_smile:

Yea, I tried that too. I guess my main question here is, what kind of file protection is this called? Perhaps with something a bit more specific, google would prove to be more useful.

From my point of view it appear UDF filesystem is messed up. Very common know a days which is causing 4.7 GB disc to look like 366 GB.
Patching UDF file system should fix the problem.