How do i know whether mine is Pioneer 109 or A09?

vbimport

#1

I bought Pioneer A09 today … installed it and in device manager it says “109” … The body is of A09 but it says 109 in DVD Identifier, Nero and all others …

Another thing is when i use the “Quiet Drive Utility” and tick the “performance” and restarts the computer and load the QDU again … when i choose check setting it will say “Quiet mode” instead of Performance which i selected earlier… I already ticked the “save setting” and i dont know why this is happening !!

Anyone else using A09 - could you let me know if it happens to you guys too !!

Could it be that i was given a 109 INSTEAD OF A09 … How can i check if mine id A09 apart from the body ?

How do i know i have the “rip-locked” ON… how can i check …

thanks

cheers !!


#2

They all say 109! install quiet drive and if it works you have a a09XL. Enjoy!


#3

I tried ripping dvd movie “a lot like love” using DVD Decrypter … it was 4.08 gb … the highest read speed was 8.7x … the total time taken was 7 mins …

is 8.7x the acceptable speed ? i thought it can read up to 16x why only 8.7 ?
Is 7 mins acceptable ?

Please let me know,
Cheers !!


#4

Also flash with the 1.58FW for the a09.\OEMs are 109s and retails are a09s!

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00001r_e.html#firmware1


#5

If you reflash and still have problems you may need to use dvr update posted on this forum. Also check performance mode. Make sure you are 80 pin cable and master UMDA4.


#6

You will never reach 16X for a rip. 12-14X if everything is set right for final speed/not average!
Sometimes if you play the DVD for 10 secs it will read faster.
Also Chas is having the same problem with quiet drive. Just keep checking the performance mode before a burn.


#7

Thanx etp ,

i know i am using 80 pin cable … being a newbie what is UMDA4 ?

My pioneer a90 is set as Secondary master with dma and autorun on … Secondary slave is a liteon 831s set with dma off and autorun off …(should i On it? if yes, how ?)

thanx


#8

Sounds good! Good into device manager and check your IDE cable settings. It should say UMDA4 for the 109. Also check Digital audio for the drive setting in Device manager. If you check DMA and auto it should be ok. Also update your bios at your MOBO site and check your bios for auto.
PS/ welcome to the best forum in the world. OC-Freak has a great forum.
PS/PS Chef and many others will give you more help shortly!
Ps/PS/PS check all your software updates? Microsoft update/nero etc


#9

I checked … it says Ultra DMA Mode 2 … ?? I need a 4 ? Sorry to ask silly questions again but how ?


#10

Now it gets more complicated! Flash before we go any further and update windows and your Bios. Your Bios may be set wrong ! Boot into Bios and check your settings for your IDE connections and drives. Can you select UMDA 4 in device manager?
Update to 1.58 but that is not your problem so far.

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/download/file_get_e2.pl?file=DVRA09_FW158EU.EXE

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/cgi-bin/www1/download/file_get_e2.pl?file=ADVQUIET_V106.EXE

What is your MOBO/computer brand and model?


#11

I already flashed to 1.58 also downloaded the Quiet … thingy …

I went into my bios setup (my mobo is 3 yrs old asus p4b533) and it allows me to change from DMA 2 to 4 … so i changed 2 to 4 for pioneer and for my liteon … i saved changes and restarted … checked in the Device manager and its still UDMA 2 … in the bios above the setting for UDMA there was this PIO mode which was set at 4 … i did not change anyhting there…


#12

Stay clear of PIO/ set to auto or UMDA4. You may need a Bios reflash update from ASUS! Go to the ASUS site and get your current bios and flash!
Also your liteon is probably umda2.
3 years old is about the limit for UMDA4. So lets hope your Bios update from ASUS works!
Time for a Dell Dude! Go to GOTAPEX.COM and shop the daily small businesss deals if you need a new box!LOL

Then recheck your Bios settings to see if they stuck in the right place.
Sorry to leave you hanging but I will be back in the morning. Remember/windows update and Bios!
UMDA2 is ok for now until we diagnos the problem.


#13

No matter how many times i change the setting it will come back to UDMA 2 .

Anyway, i still cannot use Quiet Drive Utility … I bought A90 i should be able to use without cross-flashing !! so anyone willing to help me out with the Quiet Drive Utility problems !!


#14

But everytime i click performance mode … it will tell me to reboot !!

so i rebooted the comp. and its back to Quiet mode again !!

:sad: :doh: :confused:


#15

Your drive has to be connected using an 80-wire IDE cable, preferably as MASTER drive.


#16

Chef is that man! :bow:

[QUOTE] Thanx etp ,

i know i am using 80 pin cable … being a newbie what is UMDA4 ?

My pioneer a90 is set as Secondary master with dma and autorun on … Secondary slave is a liteon 831s set with dma off and autorun off …(should i On it? if yes, how ?)

thanx[QUOTE]

Did you flash your BIOS with the curent bios from ASUS(go to the ASUS site)and double check your cable(blue ends+ make sure your red strip is where it should be+most installs won’t let you hook it up backwards). Be sure your cable is secure in the IDE slot. Jumper on the back of the drive should be set to master and your liteon to slave. Remove your liteon drive from the system. If that doesn’t work remove the 109 from the sytem totally (uninstall and physically remove) and force a reinstal after the second reboot by reconnecting the hardware without the Liteon.
Use DVR update and crossflash your drive. See directions below.


#17

Quote from my other thread on 109 issues!
Some of this is off topic, but you will need it later when new FW comes out!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=144494

"Please check out the other threads to make sure you have the 109 installed correctly! The 109 is a very nice unit!

Things to check!

  1. master
  2. umda4
  3. 80 pin cable
  4. some mobos will not do any FW flash without the dvr program
  5. some systems will not do a flash without a blank disk in the tray
  6. will not perform correctly on some IDE PCI cards.
  7. on and on and on

And oh yes it is a pain in the butt, but a fine drive once crossflashed to a A09XL."
Make sure you have the correct drive selected in dvrupdate. Also use the 1.58 A09 FW!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=140388

http://flashman.rpc1.org/Firmware/PIONEER/DVR-109/Enhanced_XL/

http://pioneer109.com/phpBB2/

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00001r_e.html#firmware1

Re: Pioneer 109 Burning Speed Increase


http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread...284#post1023284

You have not crossflashed if the quiet drive utility does not show. Check the other threads out!

  1. Once I cross flashed it was a perfect drive.

From the Pioneer 109 forum

Download the 109v1.58 firmware

Extract the files and delete the Pioneer upgrade (UPGR109.exe). You will be left with 2 files, R9100009.158 & R9100109.158.

Download DVRupdate 0.9 /2.1

Extract DVRupdate 0.9.exe /2.1 to the same folder as the 2 files above.

Run DVRupdate 0.9/2.1 and do the following:

  1. Select your drive from the ‘Device’ drop down box
  2. Select the Kernel file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Kernel’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.158 & R9100109.158 files.
  3. Select the Normal file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Normal’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.158 & R9100109.158 files.
  4. Click ‘Start’
    The operation takes about a minute. Exit DVRupdate.

Reboot.


NEC 3500 2.TGfast
BQ 1640
NEC 3450 103C
Plextor 716a 1.08
Aopen 1608/1616 102
Pioneer 109/A09 158/Quiet drive P mode
Liteon 5005
Sony 875P & 333ES
HK7200
Hitachi 61SDX
Superdish 811hdtv
Two Dell 8400s with SATA HDs

etp


#18

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=144494
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=142963
http://pioneer109.com/phpBB2/

http://pioneer109.com/

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146301


#19

From 109 forum!

Useful resources for Pioneer 109/A09 and 109-OEM drives

Official Pioneer 109 Fact-Sheet:

http://www.pioneer109.com/images/DVR-109%20pdf.pdf.

General:

http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php
Always a good source for FW issues

http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=87
CDFreaks.com - Pioneer forum

http://www.brennmeister.com/forum/viewforum.php?forum=9
German forum for burner FWs

Firmwares:

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/dev00001r_e.html
FWs from Pioneer Japan

http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/support_software.jsp?category=support/software#fdvdwriter
FWs from Pioneer Europe

http://www.st-trade.co.jp/support/download/
Major Pioneer reseller

http://www1.medion.de/downloads/?op=search&lang=de&type=TEXT&param=Pioneer&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0
Medion OEM-drives FWs

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2017
Pioneer 109 FWs from rpc1.org

http://flashman.rpc1.org/Firmware/PIONEER/DVR-109/
Nice FW collection by Flash:
109-FWs from ASUS/Buffalo/Enhanced_XL/MEDION/Pioneer
Mirror for Flashs site: http://www.dvd-recordable.org/wwwimgs/media/flash/html/

Non-official 109 Flashing-tool:

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/wwwimgs/media/flash/html/Firmware/PIONEER/DVR-109/DVRupdate%20v0.9.zip
Great Flasher by initial_D:
Ability to “crossflash”/force flash and reawake misflashed drives

DVRUpdate is a basic flashing utility for the Pioneer drives and supports Windows platform ONLY
DVRFlash 2.1 supports all Operating Systems Mac, Linux & DOS as well as the Windows platforms. It was developed for the Pioneer drives to replace DVRUpdate by Pioneer which had drive model restrictions.
Pioneer changed things with the 109 making DVRFlash 2.0 inoperative on this drive and the new release has overcome this problem.
There is no advantage of one over the other in the normal Windows OS but DVRFlash has a much wider range of use and functions.
Visit the forums at http://rpc1.org to read more about it.


#20

Use easy flash! Not the floppy!

Find BIOS updates.
http://www.bios-drivers.com/