House panel approves broadened ISP snooping bill

Ah, two disparate governments essentially pursuing the same end.

http://news.yahoo.com/china-cracks-down-wi-fi-public-spaces-130802705.html

And of course, they are doing it for the children. :rolleyes:

Such steps are not just for children safety there is a broader view here if you want to add a way to track hacker groups and other such cyber crimes, even though I don’t agree with all actions taken I do however believe such measurer’s are necessary to get a handle on the internet which is way out of hand.

Just my .02¢

The desire of governments to collect information about their citizens is certainly nothing new, nor is the “surveillance state” going away. I just find it ironic that the US, supposedly a free and open democracy, and China, a controlled communist state, are using the same argument to collect more information about their citizens internet activity. And in this country we already have NSL’s.

"The National Security Letter provision of the Patriot Act radically expanded the FBI’s authority to demand personal customer records from Internet Service Providers, financial institutions and credit companies without prior court approval.

Through NSLs the FBI can compile vast dossiers about innocent people and obtain sensitive information such as the web sites a person visits, a list of e-mail addresses with which a person has corresponded, or even unmask the identity of a person who has posted anonymous speech on a political website. The provision also allows the FBI to forbid or “gag” anyone who receives an NSL from telling anyone about the record demand. Since the Patriot Act was authorized in 2001, further relaxing restrictions on the FBI’s use of the power, the number of NSLs issued has seen an astronomical increase. The Justice Department’s Inspector General has reported that between 2003 and 2006, the FBI issued nearly 200,000 NSLs. The inspector General has also found serious FBI abuses of the NSL power."

Yeah there is and always will be abuse of authority by all governments and their agencies and like I staid I don’t agree on all steps that are being taken, however China cracking down on wi-fi in public spaces is a smart move because even though the Chinese government denies they themselves are involved with the hacking activities they know their citizens are using public spaces to commit hacking activities because they can’t be tracked down or traced by their ISP.

Packets are sent from China to more computers around the world then any other country.