i have 2 of these Nec-Optiarc 7170a drives i bought from newegg in the past 6 months. the 1st one has had about 100 discs pushed through it, the 2nd one only about 10 or so. im getting Horrible scans with cdspeed 18.104.22.168 on verbatim media with both of them. im talking quality scores in the 40s and below, even a few that had 0 scores. this is with the verbatim 16x -r and +r and with the verb dvd+r_dl disks. i scan with a lite-on @4x and with the Nec drive itself @8x. i have tried the org 1.04 firmware and liggy&dees 1M1 firmware (yes i only flash in safe-mode). ive also tried several different batches of disks. also a new 80pin ata cable, and i made sure that dma was enabled. so im wondering are these drives just junk or is there something else i can try? (i think when i get home tonight im going to put 1 of the drives in a different pc and see what happens) anyone got any ideas?