Help me with my new Pioneer 109!

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#1

Hello,

I just bought a new Pioneer DVD Burner 109. I removed my old Pioneer 105 and put this one in (Same jumper config) Boot the Computer and XP found it.

I updated the firmware to 1.50

So I say to me “Hey let try to burn at 8X to see how long it take”

I selected my VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directory put in NERO , burn the DVD , (I use RIDATA 8X DVD-R Media)

Something strange catch my eye, the light on DVD Burner flash, and make some sound like he start, stop , start etc… and green light flash

It take 42 min to burn at 8X 4.7ghz !!!

My spec are :

P4 3.0
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe Motherboard (I updated the bios too)
2g RAM

What is my problem ?? Defect drive ??

Thank for your help !


#2

My first guess is you have an older 40 wire cable and the 109 needs 80 wire.


#3

Symetric! Look at the threads in this area! There have been alot of similar problems that may help you. Just scroll down to the threads on converting 109 to A09.
Great burner man! Did you make it a A09 yet? It will greatly increase your speed.
Think master and UMDA4


#4

Quote from thread! It may help!

Same thing happened to me! Look for my posts!
I have a Dell 8400 with one IDE channel.

  1. Some MOBOs the 109 must be the master/trust me on this one(UMDA4)
  2. My MOBO/XP/System/drive(who would ever know) would not be fully recognized unless I had a blank disk in it/strange
  3. I had to use DVR update(not easy to say the least and flash this puppy to a A09)
  4. go to this forum for help

http://pioneer109.com/phpBB2/viewfo...fb016a6d72ab027

  1. Once I cross flashed it was a perfect drive.

From the Pioneer 109 forum

Download the 109v1.50 firmware from http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/down...109_FW150EU.EXE

Extract the files and delete the Pioneer upgrade (UPGR109.exe). You will be left with 2 files, R9100009.150 & R9100109.150.

Download DVRupdate 0.9 from
http://www.dvd-recordable.org/wwwim...date%20v0.9.zip

Extract DVRupdate 0.9.exe to the same folder as the 2 files above.

Run DVRupdate 0.9 and do the following:

  1. Select your drive from the ‘Device’ drop down box
  2. Select the Kernel file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Kernel’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.150 & R9100109.150 files.
  3. Select the Normal file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Normal’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.150 & R9100109.150 files.
  4. Click ‘Start’
    The operation takes about a minute. Exit DVRupdate.

Reboot.


#5

Thank you, but all the link are dead… :frowning:

BTW my drive is connected to my Maxtor PCI card (to give me more IDE) and a HD, maybe I should put direct on Motherboard ?


#6

It must be UMDA4 to get the speed you want. Some MOBOs only the master will do that. I was thinking of adding a PCI card myself. Do any of the IDE channels on your PCI card show UMDA4?


#7

Ok when I Boot my computer it show something like that :

Maxtor ULTRA 133TX2 Promise etc…

D0 Pioneer DVD-RW DVD-109 UltraDma 4
D1 WDC-WD120JB-XXXXX LBA 111G Ultra DMA5
IDE Bus Master Enable

This is the the IDE thing that is connected on my PCI card (Maxtor IDE Controller)

So it’s okay ? UMDA4 is right there…

Should I connect another method ?


#8

So it’s on a Promise controller? - not usully very good for writers, - are there any IDE ports available that are driven by the standard system chipset?


#9

Well… look like its on a Promise controller… Do you want me to connect that Pionner on the cable that is on the Motherboard ??? Its hard because , I have 4 HD, 1 CD-ROM LG, 1 DVD PIONEER …

Thank


#10

I installed a Promise card and hooked up my Optical drives to it but perfermance wasn’t up to par so I put my three hard drives on the Promise card and put my two DVD burners on the Motherboard IDE channels and everything has been running great ever since.


#11

BTW: When I check on my SYSTEM in the control panel, I click on CD-ROM/DVD-ROM I see 3 Drive… I got only 2

Those drive are :

Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device <----- Dont what it is
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8525B <---- My LG CD-Rom
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 SCSI CdRom Device <-- My DVD Burner

And why they put SCSI in ther name ??? You all have that written there SCSI ?

Thank


#12

Don’t mess with the scsi!
If you can hook it up to a standard IDE port off the MOBO and make it the master, then try that! Make sure its a 80 wire cable. I don’t know if your MOBO is UMDA4 capable on the IDE ports! You need to check that out also. Older MOBOs may not be UMDA4.
Also cross flash your drive to a A09! That does increase the speed. But do that last!


#13

On my system in the control panel under SCSI controllers it reads “WIN9X-ME Promise ULtra100 TX2 Ide Controller”


#14

You got a Pioneer 109 ? What it say ? Pioneer SCSI 109 or ??


#15

My Motherboard is a Asus P4C800-E I think it support UMDA4 … I will try to search the web to "How to convert to A09…


#16

go here!

http://pioneer109.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=368&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

and here!

http://pioneer109.com/phpBB2/index.php


#17

Let us know how you are doing! This process is a little technical but works great!


#18

150 FW

http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/download.jsp?dir=/files/support/dvrup&filename=R109_FW150EU.EXE

DVRUPDATE=

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/wwwimgs/media/flash/html/Firmware/PIONEER/DVR-109/DVRupdate%20v0.9.zip

Extract DVRupdate 0.9.exe to the same folder as the 2 files above.

Run DVRupdate 0.9 and do the following:

  1. Select your drive from the ‘Device’ drop down box
  2. Select the Kernel file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Kernel’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.150 & R9100109.150 files.
  3. Select the Normal file by clicking the folder icon to the right of the ‘Normal’ field. The correct file will automatically be selected if you have run DVRupdate from the same folder as the R9100009.150 & R9100109.150 files.
  4. Click ‘Start’
    The operation takes about a minute. Exit DVRupdate.

Reboot


#19

I can confirm that optical drives do not work up to specs on a Promise controller regardless of what UDMA speed says. Use this on your MB as slave if it has to go with an HD.


#20

chas is the man!
symetric! you have the first team on now! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: