HELP! Cant burn dvd - illegal disc!

PLEASE HELP. i am new to these forums and am unsure what to do. i have been burning dvds for a long time now with nero and dvd shrink. but i just recently bought some new blank dvds (tdk dvd-r) and everytime try burning a movie or game or something with a dvd it comes it with an error saying illegal disc, could not perform start of disc-at-once. i cant even burn on my old dvd+rw discs that worked perfectly before. i can still burn audio cds, but not on dvds. i dont know where i can find the log to this. can someone please help.:sad:

Welcome to the forum! :slight_smile:

Can you try another burn with Nero, and if it fails it should ask you if you want to save an error log.

Save this, then open it up (it’s a text file) and take out your serial number from the beginning of it. Then post it here.

The log will give us a huge amount of info about your burner setup, the discs themselves and why it failed. :slight_smile:

ok. it doesnt ask me to save a log when trying to burn a move, but below is a saved log for when trying to burn a ps2 game. thanks

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 8.1.1.0
Internal Version: 8, 1, 1, 0
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A> Version: 1.0C - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.1.1.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A >Version: 1.0C - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.1.1.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC35L090AVV207-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A atapi Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A D: CdRom0

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 510MB (523260kB)
Free physical memory: 169MB (173236kB)
Memory in use : 66 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
18.12.2007
Burn DVD Image
1:11:37 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

1:11:37 PM #2 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3530
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

1:11:38 PM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2212175 (491:35.50, 4320MB)

1:11:38 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

1:11:38 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2972
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer ID: <TTH02> <>
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

1:11:38 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<

1:11:38 PM #7 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 785
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2212176 (2212176) = #2212176/491:35.51
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2212176 blocks [D: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A]

1:11:38 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 986
Prepare [D: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:

MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4530536448, ISRC ""
DAO layout:

__Start|___Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|Size|NWA|RecDep
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2212176 | 2212176 | 0x00
2212176 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

1:11:38 PM #9 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 240
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:11:38 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4316
Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)

1:11:38 PM #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1764
Caching of files started

1:11:38 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4435
Cache writing successful.

1:11:38 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1764
Caching of files completed

1:11:38 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1764
Burn process started at 2x (2,770 KB/s)

1:11:38 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2735
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:11:38 PM #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3245
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

1:11:38 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3401
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

1:11:38 PM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10026
---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
Outer Limit of Data Recordable Area: 26127F h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0
Revision number of minimum recording speed: -
Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - -
Class: 0, Extended part version: 33
Start PSN of the Extra Border Zone: 2FE10 h
Start PSN of Physical format information blocks in Extra Border Zone: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16…783]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`…0@P…!..
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 - 02 84 0D 12 98 99 90 00 .@…R
03 54 54 48 30 32 00 00 - 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TTH02…
05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 - 06 09 0A 15 98 89 90 00 …
07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 - 08 07 14 0A 0E 09 04 00 …
09 95 07 0D 0B 88 88 00 - 0A 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …
0B 06 17 15 B8 99 85 00 - 0C B8 9A 32 03 20 32 00 …2…2.
0D 00 00 D0 00 00 00 00 - 0E 0B 21 39 35 2D 1F 00 …!95-…
0F 50 21 2D 15 98 B5 00 - 10 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .P!-…
11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 12 0B 2B 39 35 2D 1F 00 …+95-…
13 50 23 2F 19 97 B5 00 - 14 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 .P#/…
15 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 16 0A 3C 47 43 2C 27 00 …<GC,’.
17 80 21 2E 1A 78 B5 00 - 18 88 8C 00 0C 00 0C 00 …!..x…
19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 1A 09 58 46 44 27 28 00 …XFD’(.
1B 70 21 2D 19 BA A5 00 - 1C 88 84 00 04 00 04 00 .p!-…
1D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

1:11:38 PM #19 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 181
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 00 00 00 00 00 21 C1 50 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05

1:11:38 PM #20 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1742
Illegal disc
D: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A

1:11:38 PM #21 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1742
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

1:11:38 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 268
Pipe memory size 74390400

1:11:38 PM #23 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1764
Burn process failed at 2x (2,770 KB/s)

1:11:38 PM #24 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

1:11:42 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11276
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

1:11:42 PM #26 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

Existing drivers:
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

You are using a very old burner—an NEC 1300a. I have one that is mostly retired now in a seldom used backup machine. Your problem is that the drive doesn’t recognize the disks you are trying to use.

Every dvd drive has firmware within it that tells it how to burn particular disks—a burning strategy. If the drive cannot recognize the disks, it will use a generic strategy and produce poor burns, or even pure failures.

You should either replace the drive, which is the most recommended course of action, or get media that you know the drive will recognize. I can still use Taiyo Yuden 8x +R disks in my old 1300a and it will burn them very well at 4x. I have the last official NEC firmware installed in that burner.

I don’t know where you are loacated, but TY 8x +R disks are still available online at shops in the US. rima.com and supermediastore.com are two that carry them.

Probably better to get a new drive. Something like the Pioneer 115 would be a good choice.

Edit: And looking through your first post again, it may be that the drive is failing, since you can’t burn to the dvdrw disks you used previously. Every dvd burner has one laser for burning cds, and another for burning dvds. Your dvd laser may be going bad.

is there any other way of fixing it apart from getting a new drive, as i updated the firmware awhile ago from nec nd-1100 to 1300, and i never had any problems before with this brand of disc apart from this new batch.
thanks - p.s. i live in australia so not really worth my while buying from usa.
what would you recommend as a cheap but good dvd burner. that can burn on both + and -.
Any suggestions please.

Are these new TDK’s you are using rated at 16x? If so, I sincerely doubt you’ll have much luck with them using a 4x burner.

If you can’t afford a new dvd burner, your only chance is to find some older stock, slower rated blank media. 4x media disappeared over here in the US long ago, but you can still find 8x from time to time. Verbatim 8x -R might be a good gamble.

Still think it would be better to invest in a newer burner, rather than gamble on finding compatible media.

The only other thing I can think of is to modify the firmware with MediaCodeSpeedEdit, but that really isn’t for beginners. You can read up about it here: http://ala42.cdfreaks.com/MCSE/
Unless you know what you are doing, modifying your firmware can turn your dvd burner into a fancy metal brick. It is not something I am comfortable doing, but there are more expert users you can talk to in the CD and DVD Burner forum here at cdfreaks.

yes. they are the new 16x discs. i suppose i will have to give up on fixing the problem and buying a new burner.
can anyone tell me if the following is a good dvd burner:
pioneer DVR-212, 18X DUAL LAYER.
Is there any specific ones i should be looking for. i have a dell computer with windows xp. thanks

The Pioneer 212 is a very nice burner, but it has a SATA interface. Do you have SATA ports on your motherboard?

There is a regular IDE interface alternative, called the Pioneer 112, and a newer one, the 115.

i have no idea. i am new to having to install a new dvd burner and am unsure of what to look for or do etc. how do i find out what is best dvd burner that will work?

Tell us the model of your Dell and approximate age. We should be able to get you hooked up correctly. Replacing an older burner like the 1300a with a newer IDE interface drive is really fairly simple, so that’s what I would probably get in this case. If you would prefer a SATA drive, and your computer has that capability, we can give you some choices there too.

Cdfreaks has a lot of burner reviews. I suggest you look through some of them. But I think the Pioneers are good drives.

my computer is about 4 years old, i have a dell dimension 4600 intel pentium 4 processer 2.4ghz. i am not too fussed with what brand of burner i buy, i just need something easy to install, cheap and works really good. preferably if can a good read and write speed, and if can a dual layer burner.
thanks

I looked up the specs on your machine and it looks like there are two SATA ports on the motherboard. I believe it would be simpler just to replace this 1300a which used a regular IDE cable with a similar type of dvd drive.

Possible choices include the Pioneer 112 and 115 as previously mentioned, the new Lite-On 20x drives like the DH-20A4P, or the LG model GSA-H55NK. There are many others that fit your needs, but these are some to look through. I would avoid the Samsung IDE interface drive that is out right now. Their SATA model is much better.

Once you have it in hand, you just remove the old drive, plug in the new one using the existing cables and XP will find your new hardware for you. Dell almost always sets IDE devices as Cable Select, so you will have to set the little jumper on the back of the new drive to CS. Not hard to do, just something that you need to do before installing. If you get a retail version, it will come with complete instructions on installation.

thanks for the help. i will look into the easier option, and definitely wouldnt do the samsung one either as every time i have bought samsung no matter what is is, i have had problems with it. so have totally gone off that brand.

Hi Kerry
Following the link above would you be so kind as to explain>>

[B]Are these new TDK’s you are using rated at 16x? If so, I sincerely doubt you’ll have much luck with them using a 4x burner.>>[/B]
Some where I’ve read that "the slowest speed possible " is a good maxim for burning.
Is it because the burner - the NEC 1300a. is a single possibly dedicated speed unit! that is the problem in this case?
For sure the question is not earth stopping I just wondered
Compliments of the Season
Clive

@C.Bundy
Slowest speed possible is not the best policy. I’m not sure where that started, but it is an outdated maxim. User tests here at cdfreaks show that if you are using modern burners, with faster media like the 16x stuff we have nowadays, the best results are usually between 6x and 12x. Some burns at 4x and slower, using modern media and burners, show more immediate errors. Firmware strategies may be optimized for faster media and faster burns than were previously available. I burn virtually all my dvds at 8x, as it seems to be a good compromise on speed/quality.

The NEC 1300a can burn at 2x, 2.4x and 4x, depending on media type. It may be able to burn at 1x, but I never tried it. The problem with the 16x media in this burner is not the speed necessarily. You could probably get acceptable results at 4x [B]if the burner would only recognize the disks[/B].

Hi Kerry
Well thanks for that, a great explination!!
It is strange how things become nearly “Written in Stone” given time — but we live and learn
Respects Clive:bow:

Hi kiwimb - looks like you’ve been in very good hands with Kerry :wink:

For an excellent IDE drive I highly recommend the Pioneer 115(D)…recently bought one myself and love it. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Arachne;1956616]Hi kiwimb - looks like you’ve been in very good hands with Kerry :wink:

For an excellent IDE drive I highly recommend the Pioneer 115(D)…recently bought one myself and love it. :)[/QUOTE]

Seconded , also one of the 20x samsungs wouldnt go a miss :iagree:

Don’t forget to use an 80 wire ide cable!

KWIMB
I agree your burner might be to old. Anyway another thing you
could try is doing a system restore a few weeks or months back to
when it was working well. Also check on line for upgrades to your
burner. According to your log you have plenty of space so maybe
you wouldn’t need to do a disk cleanup or defragment,but just to
be safe run your anti-virus software to make sure your system isn’t
infected with a trojan or other worm which might be affecting your
system.
Good Luck ZAP.