GSA 4120: First impressions of burn quality

Hi…

i’ve done a few first dvd burns with my new gsa 4120 and have made scans of the burned media.

The scans would be better placed at the media forum but within this thread you’ll have a first impression and quick overview.

Hardware used:

  • GSA4120 for burning with A100 and A101 RPC1 firmware
  • Bend DW822 for scanning

Software used:

  • Nero 6.3.1.15
  • Nero Recode (supplied with Nero 6.3.1.15)
  • Nero CD-DVD Speed for scanning (supplied with Nero 6.3.1.15)
  • DVD Identifier 3.4
  • Ulead DVD Workshop 1.3 AC3

Regards,

Gerd

Philips DVD+R 4x Media burned at 4x with GSA 4120 firmware A100


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:CMC MAG-F01-000]
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Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [CMC MAG]
Manufacturer Name :      [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Media Type ID :          [F01]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 43 4d 43 20 4d  41 47 00 46 30 31 00 38   ...CMC MAG.F01.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 48 71 02  8c 69 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Hq..i......
0030 : 01 1d 1e 0c 0c 12 12 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 28 64 31  05 30 22 10 08 20 1c 01   ..88.(d1.0".. ..
0050 : 00 00 02 28 64 31 05 30  22 10 08 20 1c 01 00 00   ...(d1.0".. ....

Verbatim DVD+R 8x burned at 8x with GSA 4120 firmware A100



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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-003-000]
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Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [MCC]
Manufacturer Name :      [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Media Type ID :          [003]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4 , 6x-8x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]


0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 43 43 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38   ...MCC.....003.8
0020 : 23 54 37 15 02 52 6c 02  b4 63 15 15 0b 0a 08 08   #T7..Rl..c......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 31 5f 1c  06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01   ..88.1_...#.....
0050 : 00 00 02 31 5f 1c 06 2e  23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00   ...1_...#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 63 67  20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00   ..Tp./cg .... ..
0070 : 00 00 02 43 63 67 20 14  0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 36   ...Ccg .... ...6

TDK DVD+R 4x at 4x with GSA 4120 firmware A101 RPC1


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:RICOHJPN-R01-002]
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Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [RICOHJPN]
Manufacturer Name :      [Ricoh Company Ltd.]
Media Type ID :          [R01]
Product Revision :       [002]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]


0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 52 49 43 4f 48  4a 50 4e 52 30 31 02 38   ...RICOHJPNR01.8
0020 : 23 54 37 09 00 3c 67 00  ac 62 16 18 0b 0b 0a 0b   #T7...g..b......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0b 0b 0e 0f 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 00 32 5e 20  0a 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01   ..88.2^ ."".....
0050 : 00 00 00 32 5e 20 0a 22  22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00   ...2^ ."".......

Platinum DVD+R 8x at 8x with GSA 4120 firmware A101 RPC1



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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:CMC MAG-E01-000]
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Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [CMC MAG]
Manufacturer Name :      [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Media Type ID :          [E01]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4 , 6x-8x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 43 4d 43 20 4d  41 47 00 45 30 31 00 38   ...CMC MAG.E01.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 38 6a 02  88 67 15 15 0b 0b 08 08   #T7..8j..g......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 27 61 16  08 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01   ..88.'a...#.....
0050 : 00 00 02 27 61 16 08 2e  23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00   ...'a...#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 38 5f 56  20 14 0b 0b 01 18 00 00   ..Tp.8_V .......
0070 : 00 00 02 3d 5d 7a 20 14  0c 0a 01 18 00 00 00 10   ...=]z .........

Platinum DVD-R 8x at 4x with GSA 4120 firmware A101 RPC1


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:RITEKG05]
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Disc Type :              [DVD-R]
Manufacturer ID :        [RITEKG05]
Manufacturer Name :      [Ritek Co.]
Disc Application Code :  [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2x , 4x] (8x Cannot Be Detected)
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)]

0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00  02 86 0e 11 98 9a 80 00   .@....R.........
0010 : 03 52 49 54 45 4b 47 00  04 30 35 00 00 00 00 00   .RITEKG..05.....
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00  06 08 12 11 98 9a 80 00   ................
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00  08 06 18 0d 10 07 07 00   ................
0040 : 09 97 06 0c 0b 70 88 00  0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00   .....p..........
0050 : 0b 04 1d 17 b8 88 75 00  0c 89 ac 98 81 00 10 00   ......u.........
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

Verbatim DVD-R 8x at 8x with GAS 4120 firmware A101 RPC1


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 02RG20  ]
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Disc Type :              [DVD-R]
Manufacturer ID :        [MCC 02RG20  ]
Manufacturer Name :      [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Disc Application Code :  [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2x , 4x] (8x Cannot Be Detected)
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)]

0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00  02 85 0d 10 88 9a 80 00   .@....R.........
0010 : 03 4d 43 43 20 30 32 00  04 52 47 32 30 20 20 00   .MCC 02..RG20  .
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00  06 09 0d 13 87 78 80 00   .............x..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00  08 05 15 0d 10 0b 0a 00   ................
0040 : 09 98 08 0f 0b 78 88 00  0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00   .....x..........
0050 : 0b 07 19 15 a7 88 75 00  0c 99 bc aa a2 20 22 00   ......u...... ".
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

Why has the G05 received a quality of 0?

I cannot see any yellow lines (PO), is this because the drive annot read them?

How are these results compared to discs burned with other burners you have tried?

@MrWGT, look here for a new firmware!

Hi…

@igy:

  1. I don’t know why the G05 got 0 points. But i assume it’s because the maximum jitter is above 15%. All other disc have a smaller maximum jitter.

  2. The dw822 does report PO errors but it looks like that the disc must be really bad do see POs. I’ll try do scan a bad disc just for showing. I assume that there’s a difference in reporting POs to nero cd dvd speed compared to liteon burners. But i don’t know how the benq does calculate the POs and report them.

Regards,

Gerd

PS: I think that my benq is at least a better scanning drive than a liteon dvd-reader e.g. LTR 165.

I have LiteOn 8x DVD+R media but not GSA-4120B and you have no media for 12x burning but have a 12x writer. I still have some 100 unused LiteOn DVD-R/+R/+RW discs though I tried to spend quickly. I’m wondering whether and where to order a retail 4120B. Perhaps it’s better to buy an external USB/1394 version in Tokyo. The GSA-4120B’s retail lowest price reported at Danawa.co.kr is now 177,000 Won.

http://danawa.co.kr/comindex_left.php3?kindc=COM&typec=CDR

http://danawa.co.kr/comindex_right.php3?kindc=COM&typec=CDR&codec=DVDRWLGGSA4120B

Back-imported drives are usually much cheaper than “domestic” (for South Korean consumers only) ones here. LG drives made to be exported but sold in domestic market for some reasons: http://danawa.co.kr/comindex_right.php3?kindc=COM&typec=CDR&codec=DVDRWLGGSA4082BTBULK 113,000 Won vs. LG drives made to be consumed in domestic market, label in Korean and backed by LG’s official warranty: http://danawa.co.kr/comindex_right.php3?kindc=COM&typec=CDR&codec=DVDRWLGGSA4082B 147,000 Won.