Grundig announces HDTV with built-in DVD

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I just posted the article Grundig announces HDTV with built-in DVD.

Grundig has announced their newest HDTV with built-in DVD player and integrated HD DVB tuner. Grundig’s newest Misuro HD LCD TV comes in a 19" or 22" version and costs you $749 or $899…

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“comes in a 19” or 22" version and costs you $749 or $899 respectively." Other than college students in a small dorm room, I see no other use for this. Who wants a 19" or 22" TV? “The built-in DVD player is a nice feature, but I think many will agree that there is a need for HDTVs with a built-in Blu-ray player” Not me. Blu-ray can kiss my big, hairy ass. Also, what’s the point of having hi-def on a 19" screen when you’ll probably be watching it from at least 6 feet away?
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Yeah I can see a BR player in a 19 inch TV being real handy. /sarcasm Plus, the only thing worse than a BR player that is stand alone, would be one stuffed inside a TV that was large enough to make it sensible in the first place. I can see it now: DAMN!! My 58 inch LCD has to come off the wall and go back to the store cause the Bluray player inside it just took a big crap.


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@ Crabbyappleton I’ve always been against TVs having integrated VHS or DVD players. In a perfect world, where nothing ever breaks, it would be a great feature. But what happens if the VHS/DVD player does go tits up? You have to lug the whole damn thing back to the store or into someone’s shop for repair. No soup for you. :+
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For that kind of money, you can get a 26" Toshiba with a built-in DVD player.


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@ DukeNukem - Yeah I know, this is what I said in my post too. It’s like having a Winnebago break down on vacation. Brace yourself for a huge repair bill too! :r


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Sorry for the long post, but there’s no short way to say this. I’ve got a GE digital alarm clock radio from 1981 with all original components working flawlessly. My grandparents had a Zenith console TV that ran 25 years on its all original parts. They used that thing continuously. It had an electronic ultrasonic remote control, that’s kind of rare even in those days. You could play “Where is Thumbkin?” on the remote by pressing 123 11231 345 345 565431 565431 511 511. Their Sony TV from the early 80s WORKS FLAWLESSLY TO THIS DAY!!! My parents had a TV that lasted 20 years of running 12+ hours per day with three thermal cycles per day. It had its main filter cap replaced twice and ONE resistor replaced once. Everything else was all original. They got rid of it because the tube was starting to get gassy and made a blurry picture. We used to have a Panasonic black and white TV that lasted 20 years without failing, it still worked when it went to the dump. Who watches black and white, even in those days? I’ve got a Panasonic VCR from a thrift store made in 1984 runs great to this day with just a head cleaning. Here’s some videos of ancient televisions working to this day, don’t tell me EVERY single part is new, maybe new electrolytics, but not new diodes, transistors, transformers ect.: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zenith+roundie&search_type= I was at a yard sale a month ago and found an AM ONLY radio. It crackled when I turned it on but after unplugging it and rotating all the knobs to get dirt out of the way it worked as well as well as an AM radio usually works. This thing was pre-80s!!! I recently got rid of an 80’s TV that had a bad solder joint in it, that was the only thing wrong with it, it was 15 years old. I hate watching TV these days, but I wish I kept it. A friend of my brother’s has an 8 bit NES, it runs great, his brothers got it in 1987. It has a bad connection at the 72 pin connector, but all the non moving electronics run fine, even the electrolytics, which are notorious. You’ve got to wiggle the cartridge to get it to work. A few months ago I was in a thrift store and saw an ancient Sony console television. It worked great. Are you going to tell me every single electronic part in that TV has been replaced? Please (rolls eyes). Then there’s the bad capacitor incident: http://www.badcaps.net/ (NOT my site! Be sure to read this part: http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=4 Not to be confused with Dell’s issue: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=optiplex+bulging+capacitor&btnG=Google+Search My parents currently have a Toshiba TV/VCR combo unit in their kitchen. It won’t work with any remote. I’ve checked its original remote for bad solder joints and swapped remotes from another Toshiba TV. The original remote works with the other TV. The problem is in the TV. It lasted only 6 years. Surprisingly the VCR section hasn’t died yet. Not even a head cleaning because I warned them against old bargain basement tapes. I HATE TOSHIBA FOR THIS!!! They’ve also got a Mongomery Ward microwave with a digital controller in it. Let’s see, the house was bought in 1997, and it was there when they bought the house, it has kind of an 80s appearance to it, and it DOES get used a lot. It doesn’t say when it was made. But it’s got electrolytics, diodes, a high voltage transformer, magnetron, transistors, vacuum fluorescent display, ICs, solder joints, relays, and other electronic parts, runs great. Go here and read the part “How to Build Obsolescence In Before the Name Goes On” http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/cgi/mfs/web/repairfaq/glimpse_lib?link=http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/tshoot.htm&file=/web/repairfaq/sam/tshoot.htm&line=1427#mfs If your electronics are breaking, it’s because they’re cheap junk. Unfortunately even spending $500+ doesn’t guarantee anything. JVC produce a VCR way back that LITERALLY FELL APART!!! "When my SVHS VCR when nuts, I read your VCR guides and found the problem, As you said I opened the bottom and found the brass part and put it back on. " http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.electronics.repair/2006-09/msg00171.html http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jvc+vcr+brass&btnG=Search I have one of these from a thrift store a while back. Doesn’t happen on my $500 Sony SLV-575UC, its capstan bearings die: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=sony+capstan+bearings+vcr&spell=1 I’ve got a playstation 2 from my brother in law, the only thing wrong with it was a dirty lens. He bought it the second day they were released. It’s sitting on my Phillips DVD player made in 2000, which has never failed me, even though I got it used. Beware of rubber belts. They failed in the cassette days, they failed in VCRs, and I’ve seen them fail in DVD player trays :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: :r . Gears are the way to go there, they’ll outlive the format unless the customer abuses it. Belts do last a surprising amount of time in that application, but still, they’ll stretch, and slip when gears would last. I picked up an Emerson 4 head HI-FI VCR from a yard sale for free. It had rubber belts for the cassette basket and loading mechanism, some VCRs use gears for this task, and they outlive the format itself. Heat is the #1 killer of electronics. I’ve seen electronics last 20-30 years depending on ambient temperature and humidity, and when not abused by the customer. Don’t tell me it can’t be done. Usually when a part fails it’s because the manufacturer overstressed it, and usually that one part costs less than $1 new. It’s called planned obsolescence.


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Argh wall of text crits for 10000.
Sorry dude, I couldn’t get past a few sentences.