OK. I went and bought some new DVD-R's the other day. they were called "Laser". 25 pack for 30 bucks. good price here in australia. 4x btw.
ANYWAY, i got them. took em home and burned em. they were made by a31n or something like that. at 2x the errors were horrendous. getting like over 300 normally and at the end getting up high to 500. the PO was like 50-60 near the end. not good!
so then i say. ok, lets see how they read in cd speed. yep major slowdowns near the end. so then i say k. they r gonna certainly suck at 4x. lets see if THESE 4x DISCS BURN at 1x. beleive it or not at 1x the errors were : PI more than 600 and 1000 near the end. PO lets just say WAAAAAAAY out of spec. geez. they r total garbage.
i tried at 4x but it spat the disc back out and said it couldnt even find the track or something LMAO. F*** that i said im taking these back. they wont burn at ANY speed acceptably.
so i go back. i say, mate, these discs u sold me r complete rubbish. they wont work at any speed. the F***en dickhead says to me, nah nah nah, we sold thousands of these and nobody has ever come back complaining.
i said listen, i know alot about error checking dvd's. these were WAY out of spec and wont even work on my dvd player (not that i even bothered, i know they werent gonna work with PO over 60 LOL). i said look these discs are shit thats all there is to it. then the pretty boy surfer Fa**ot goes, mate my buddy has burned tons of these. he earns 250g's a year. i think he knows what hes talking about.
at that point i should have put him in hospital. i say, look, nobody knows about dvd error checking and i bet ur buddy doesnt either. just coz u burn it sucessullfy it doesnt mean all is well and good. theres more to it than that. hes like, nah but i plays fine. (obviously a few months later it WONT) so he's like ok i can't refund ur money but i can let u get some different discs for the money we owe u. im like k. i get some trusty maxells (branded TDK). i only got 7 though coz they are hell more expensive but of course hell better lol.
then this old ass hat next to him is like it must be that ur burner is incompatible. i say, mate its a pioneer 106, its the crap discs my firend, that are the problem. he asks what do i usually use? i say taiyo yuden. do u even know who that is?? he's like all dumbfounded with no idea. i say yeah obviously u don't have a clue.
then THEN he says, do u know who andy such and such is? im like no. he says, it doesnt make u a bad person for not knowing something. then i was like in my head (u f**king moron ur selling garbage and ripping people off IDIOT!!!!). arggg. anyway. i got my discs and was on my way.
went next door to the other computer shop. haggles for a discount on these a grade princo's. go them. burned them at 2x speed. beatiful results. no skipping WELL within error specs.
in conclusion, some people need to be slapped. i cant believe the nerve of them telling me that my burner was the problem etc etc. they have no, absolutley NO idea about blank dvd's, who manufactures them, what the error specs are, what kprobe is, what PI and PO are but they have the nerve to attempt to tell me im wrong and they sell thousands of them!
do u think i did the right thing returning them and putting them in their place? even though they would not listen lol.