Freezing after the 1:40 mark-Fireproof

Just wondering if anyone else is having issues with the movie Fireproof? I am using 5.2.3.2 and it takes longer for Fab to ‘open’ the dvd to start the process. Analyzing also takes longer. The whole process completes with no errors at all-did this twice, once with Path Player enabled and once with it disabled. First time the dvd acts like it is skipping at the 1:40 mark, the second time it just freezes at the 1:41 mark. I don’t know what other info I could give, but please let me know what else I could do if there is a resolution-thanks.

[QUOTE=Rodnie;2207531]Just wondering if anyone else is having issues with the movie Fireproof? I am using 5.2.3.2 and it takes longer for Fab to ‘open’ the dvd to start the process. Analyzing also takes longer. The whole process completes with no errors at all-did this twice, once with Path Player enabled and once with it disabled. First time the dvd acts like it is skipping at the 1:40 mark, the second time it just freezes at the 1:41 mark. I don’t know what other info I could give, but please let me know what else I could do if there is a resolution-thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hi Rodnie and welcome,

Nothing out of the ordinary for me so far.
Fireproof, R1, WS, Platinum 5.2.3.2, PP enabled, Customize Mode,
Title 1 (1:58:13), English AC-3/5.1, English subtitles
Burned with Img to YUDEN T02 @ 8X.

Bckup is flawless, but I just parused it. I watched the section you mentioned, started at ch. 26 about 1:39 and watched up past 1:42.
No problems that I could see.

I just ripped to my hdd in clone mode…again, uneventful. Plays fine off the hdd, but haven’t burned it to a DL yet.

Please post your burn log and we’ll have a look and go from there.

The default location is:
[B]C:\Documents and Settings[I]Administrator Name[/I]\My Documents\DVDFab\Log[/B]

Hi again Rodnie,

I meant to add this, but had to take a call and just missed the 30 minute edit deadline.
The first thing that comes to mind is that perhaps you are burning too close to the edge, given your blank media.

In Common Settings, what do you have selected for the max file size to burn to a dvd5?
Anyway, hopefully the burn log will tell the tale.

I also did this but in main movie R1 Full Screen with PP enabled and version 5.2.3.2 and just watched it about an hour ago no problems Also using Verbatim 16X+R @ 12X. Maybe your orig. copy is messed up or something on the disc at that point

Ok, I redid the copy again last night after trying the dvd in the player first to see if it had any issues-none found by playing it. Then, I wiped it off really good(didn’t think it would be something on the dvd as it is brand new) and tried it again last night. Here is my burn log:

2009-01-29 06:03:41 ---- ******************** Log session stop 29-Jan 06:03:41.687 PID 1656********************
2009-01-29 06:03:31 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2009-01-29 06:03:31 Info Finalization Time 00:00:27 - Total completion time 00:13:35
2009-01-29 06:03:04 Info Write finished in 00:13:08 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 4.21
2009-01-29 05:50:36 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 6
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Write started 2040976 sectors to write
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x2.4
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Available write speed: 16x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x,
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Media ID: RITEKF1
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Media type: DVD-R
2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Ultra DMA mode 2 (ATA33)
2009-01-29 05:49:53 Info Scanned files #8, folder #2 - total size 4178825216 b. (3.89 Gb.)
2009-01-29 05:49:53 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
2009-01-29 05:49:53 Info Write started
2009-01-29 05:49:51 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-01-28 21:36:03 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2009-01-28 21:36:03 Info Finalization Time 00:00:27 - Total completion time 00:13:40
2009-01-28 21:35:35 Info Write finished in 00:13:13 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 4.18
2009-01-28 21:23:05 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 27
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Write started 2040976 sectors to write
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x2.4
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Available write speed: 16x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x,
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Media ID: MCC 03RG20
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Media type: DVD-R
2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Ultra DMA mode 2 (ATA33)
2009-01-28 21:22:20 Info Scanned files #8, folder #2 - total size 4178825216 b. (3.89 Gb.)
2009-01-28 21:22:20 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
2009-01-28 21:22:20 Info Write started
2009-01-28 21:13:30 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.05 [E] (Ide)
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info Current Drive selected : 1:1:0 - Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A 1.02 [F] (Ide)
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-01-28 21:13:28 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-01-28 21:13:28 ---- ******************** Log session start 28-Jan 21:13:28.187 PID 1656********************

2009-01-28 21:11:23 ---- ******************** Log session stop 28-Jan 21:11:23.234 PID 1656********************
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info Current Drive selected : 1:1:0 - Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A 1.02 [F] (Ide)
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-01-28 21:11:22 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-01-28 21:11:22 ---- ******************** Log session start 28-Jan 21:11:22.687 PID 1656********************

Anyway, I tried playing this copy all the way out from 1:39 and had no issues-I just couldn’t see it being something on the dvd as it was new-now I feel pretty stupid that that’s all it was. Is there a reason why the analyzing and time after it ‘opens’ the dvd before it lets you hit ‘start’ is longer than with other dvds?

My writeable size on the DVD5 is 4,300 MB, which is the default size, the only thing I change is I slow down my write speed to 4X and it seems to be more ‘dvd player friendly’. I mainly use Verbatim 16x -R’s, but get some Office Depot 16x -R’s for Christmas every year and use those for a few months until they are gone. I’ve never had any issues with either brand before or with any copies, so I thought something was weird about the freezing-then when I saw that I was the only one having the issue, I should have figured out that there was something goofy with the dvd. Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the help-greatly appreciated. :slight_smile:

Hey, great to hear that you figured it out.
Yeah, you never know…always good to start with basics. You certainly aren’t the first person to go digging for problems and later on come up with something like cleaning a “clean” disc. I think we’ve all been there.

Your NEC is a few years old, but both the drive and the media are rated up to speeds of 16X…I would have thought that 8X would have been a “good” burn speed with the MCC media, but the Ritek may do better at 4X.

The Ritek media that you’re using is not the best stuff.
[I]2009-01-29 05:49:55 Info Media ID: RITEKF1[/I]

You’re much better off sticking with the stuff made by Mitsubishi
[I]2009-01-28 21:22:22 Info Media ID: MCC 03RG20[/I]

Here’s a great website that will give you some good info and illustrate what I’m trying to say:
digital.FAQ

Anyway, congrats on solving your problem.

Yeah, my Office Depot media is only used for the players I know are very ‘burn-friendly’(mainly Magnavox). I purchase only the Verbatim 16X -R’s as they seem to have very good reviews and I can find specials around for $20/100 every now and then and stock up on them.

I know the discs are rated for 16X burn speeds, but I have had issues with skipping at that speed and figure I’m not in a big rush to burn a movie so the difference in time between 8X and 4X to do so isn’t that much. I have had alot of success at 4X, but just my preference. Thanks for all your help-I don’t post alot here, but do alot of reading and am extremely happy with the Platinum and the support. :slight_smile:

I do wish I could find another NEC burner, but they stopped making them, so there I sit again-I find something that works very well, and then I have to switch to something else if it ever sees it’s day. :-/

There are tons of good quality burners out there.
A couple good places to start…

NEC / Optiarc burner subforum

as well as the the larger cdf burner subforum

and newegg

That’s where I buy all my burners from is Newegg-I love them. So, you are recommending Optiarc as my next burner? I do have an external Sony DRX-830U, but don’t use it very often-I keep it more for a back-up. Is there something that you feel is as good as what NEC was(or would have as good of reviews)? Thanks for your help.

I almost forgot…
Check out the cdf bargain basement thread for media and other great stuff.
I just picked up a 100 verbs +R 16x for $20.99…great media, great price, great retailer…

Verbatim 100 Pack DVD+R 16x Newegg Free Shipping

As Tom said great to hear that you got it straightened out and wish you great burning down the road and BTW welcome to the FAB Forum

[quote=maineman;2208228]I almost forgot…
Check out the cdf bargain basement thread for media and other great stuff.
I just picked up a 100 verbs +R 16x for $20.99…great media, great price, great retailer…

Verbatim 100 Pack DVD+R 16x Newegg Free Shipping[/quote]

And they have the -R’s for $19.99 right now at Newegg-great price. Do you find yourself burning with the +R’s moreso than the -R’s? If so, why? When I use the +R’s in my DVD recorder, it has to ‘format’ the disc whereas the -R is already formatted properly. The finalizing with +R takes a bit longer then the -R also, is there better quality with the +R’s?

[QUOTE=Rodnie;2208223]That’s where I buy all my burners from is Newegg-I love them. So, you are recommending Optiarc as my next burner? I do have an external Sony DRX-830U, but don’t use it very often-I keep it more for a back-up. Is there something that you feel is as good as what NEC was(or would have as good of reviews)? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
I hate to recommend any particular burner. I don’t own any Optiarc burners, but I know some folks here, much more experienced than I am, and they swear by them.
However, it’s always sound advice to research a specific model/make and not assume any one brand has the upper hand.
I’ve owned about 13 burners and never got a bad one or had one fail, but I retire 'em after a couple years.

Right now in my rig, I’m running 2 Benq’s, 2 Liteon’s and a Samsung and they’re all good performers and I swear by all of 'em
I think my next one is going to be a Pioneer…probably a 216, but again, that’s just me.
In addition to above, LG puts out some great burners too.

I really don’t think there is any “quality” difference between -R and +R, as long as you’re using quality media and have the correct write strategy.
Having said this, I almost always use +R media, but I’ve done 100’s of burns with -R without any issues.

With +R you have the advantage of bitsetting, ie., changing the booktype to DVD-ROM from DVD +R, thus increasing overall compatibility for playback.
Truthfully, this means less today than it used to…as most modern players don’t have a problem, but there it is.

+R usually costs a tad more, say with Taiyo Yuden, but if you look for the sales, no biggie.

Myself I only use the +R’s because I still find some of my friends who want to borrow movies have trouble with the -R’s and with the +R’s booktyped to DVD-ROM the overall compatibility is great, But thats just me anyway as long as you use good media you will be fine

[quote=maineman;2208228]I almost forgot…
Check out the cdf bargain basement thread for media and other great stuff.
I just picked up a 100 verbs +R 16x for $20.99…great media, great price, great retailer…

Verbatim 100 Pack DVD+R 16x Newegg Free Shipping[/quote]

Thank you, maineman. I just ordered these from Newegg.