[QUOTE=Kenshin;2703122]Freedom and liberty at best can be illusions as democracy can never be perfect, equality can never be complete, and humans cannot ever reach sanity, negotiate reason, and find enough about themselves.[/quote] Of course. We all have different needs and opinions. Some will collide pretty heavily.
I used to say there’s no freedom of speech and so I could say little on the web, none of the things that I really think. I can’t say that for other countries. Colonies and slaves under Rome and Maya both seem to have enjoyed some degrees of freedom of speech.
As long as their masters were not annoyed by it.
And some had the means to preserve for posterity. Edmund Burke and Alexis de Tocquevile both survived long enough to write books that contained ideas and opinions unfashionable enough to lead the authors to instant deaths in most other civilizations. People unafraid of death after years of torture can perform miracles because they are what casual people fear most and people in fear are the easiest targets for manipulation.
Meh. Most books usually get popular after the authors are long gone. Some books get a holy status. Wisdom is not in books, but there may be knowledge.
How’s this for free speech: I have invested a lot of time in this forum and see very little results. The knowledge is immensly fragmented. Most posts these days bore me. I am grateful for the rare interesting posts, but his ain’t one of them. Maybe we should apply Will Wheaton’s law.