First experience with TY

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#1

well i just had my first experiance with TY media (fuji:recognized as TY in Kprobe) and omfg am i surprised. i tested all of my previous media which have been from sony, maxell, tdk, and others that were NOT id’d as TY media. its not even funny how much better this stuff is. i was getting like in the 40k and 50k and even on one media 300k of c1 errors with averages of 20.xx to 122.xx and the TY had 959 c1 errors with a .212 average. i swear i almost shit my pants. never again will i buy any other media EVER! its TY from now on.


#2

Well, how about this media from Ricoh:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/LG4480B_24x_Ricoh_700Mb_24x_jewelcase.png

Or this media from Acer Inc:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/lg_4480B_Sony_CDQ80N5_Acer_48x.png

or this media from Fuji Photo Film Inc:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/LiteOn_48246s_52x_on_Fuji_52x_test_LiteOn48246s_at_24x.png

or this media from Mitsubishi Chemical Inc.:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/Verbatim_Crystal_Azo_40x_on_Yamaha_3200_4xAAMQ.png

There are many more good media out there. The trouble is finding the media that not only works in your burner at desired speed, but also in other readers (!).

I’m doing tests on LiteOn and Plextor models which suggest that burn quality is not experience similarly by various drives. If it reads well on drive A, it doesn’t mean it reads well on drive B, even if drive A says that the write quality is almost perfect.

regards,
Halcyon


#3

Ummm… FujiFilm = TY.


#4

FujiFilm = TY

No, Fuji makes media in Europe.
There are CDR’s that produce lower error rates than TY, high speed RitEK is one, but none of them are as consistant and the differences are small.


#5

Also Fuji sometimes uses Ritek. Here in the USA I recently saw a spindle of Fuji CD-Rs (I think they were audio/music type) that were apparently made by Ritek.


#6

Originally posted by Stoner
Ummm… FujiFilm = TY.
No, they are made in Kleve, Germany with the following ATIP :

ATIP: 97m 26s 45f
Disc Manufacturer: FUJI Photo Film Co., Ltd.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 73f / LBA: 359848)

ATIP start of lead in: -02:33:30 (sector: -11505)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:73 (sector: 359998)
Manufacturer code: 97 26 45 - FUJI Photo Film Co., Ltd. (Type: 5)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5


#7

Oh, my bad, didn’t know FujiFilm uses different manufacturers for their CDR media. It’s a good thing the CDRs I bought from BestBuy are made by TY and DVD+R are made by Ricoh.


#8

Originally posted by Stoner

didn’t know FujiFilm uses different manufacturers for their CDR media.

Fuji 48X cdr’s questions…

52x CD-R media

Fuji stops CDR production ?

Revealing behind-the-scenes tricks of the art of the search button usage > FUJI Photo Film Co

:smiley:


#9

Put it this way: in America and Canada, all Fujifilm media rated 24x and over and some Fujifilm media rated at 16x and below are made by Taiyo Yuden. In Europe, you’ll find that most Fujifilm media is Made in Germany with the FUJI Photo Film ATIP code with perhaps the exception of some Made in Taiwan discs made by RiTEK. Fujfilm in general are very high quality discs and use top class manufacturers in my opinion.

Edit:

The only Fujifilm media I’ve seen in Australia so far are some Fujfilm CD-R’s I found in the suburbs of Sydney. They were in jewel cases and I suspect that they were made by RiTEK.

Correct me if I’m wrong!


#10

Originally posted by Halcyon
[B]Well, how about this media from Ricoh:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/LG4480B_24x_Ricoh_700Mb_24x_jewelcase.png

Or this media from Acer Inc:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/lg_4480B_Sony_CDQ80N5_Acer_48x.png

or this media from Fuji Photo Film Inc:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/LiteOn_48246s_52x_on_Fuji_52x_test_LiteOn48246s_at_24x.png

or this media from Mitsubishi Chemical Inc.:

http://www.777-team.org/~halcyon/Verbatim_Crystal_Azo_40x_on_Yamaha_3200_4xAAMQ.png

There are many more good media out there. The trouble is finding the media that not only works in your burner at desired speed, but also in other readers (!).

I’m doing tests on LiteOn and Plextor models which suggest that burn quality is not experience similarly by various drives. If it reads well on drive A, it doesn’t mean it reads well on drive B, even if drive A says that the write quality is almost perfect.

regards,
Halcyon [/B]

wow that ricoh one seems really good. anyone know if any companies in the U.S use ricoh as the manufacturer? like fuji uses TY. thanks


#11

Originally posted by polishmafia4u

wow that ricoh one seems really good.
Yes, it is . And how about mine ? It’s Ritek that is easy to find in any country.


#12

@BoSkin: Wow! You’re making me wish I had a 52246S!!


#13

Originally posted by terminalvelocd
@BoSkin: Wow! You’re making me wish I had a 52246S!!

Not really, the test speed was 8x and who knows what the write speed was at. Probably just a lucky burn.


#14

Originally posted by terminalvelocd

@BoSkin: Wow! You’re making me wish I had a 52246S!!

Well, to be honest with you it’s my TDK VeloCD AL481648 ( 4800B ) @ LTR52246S.
But I have an original LTR52246S too, only in USB case.
Kinda strange but the latter one is a bit louder @max speed than the rebadged one.
My guess is that the TDK tuning of this drive has been a real success.


#15

Originally posted by aviationwiz

Probably just a lucky burn
Sure :wink: Lotta other lucky burns


#16

a lucky burn

Interesting concept. After all this time, all these drives and tests, I’m shocked to learn that it’s all “luck” after all. I wonder, how does one measure “luck” in a burn? Maybe we can get Karr to update KProbe so that it can display the “luck factor” in the test. :confused: I guess the 52246S must be the “luckiest” drive in the world!


#17

BoSkin- why do you keep testing @ 8x. it makes no difference. to tell the truth, i think you would get less errors at a higher speed. also 8x= 8 min, max=2min. i’m gonna test one of my burns at 8x and max then you will see the difference.


#18

8x read=
max 5
total 152
ave= .038

max (52x)=
max 4
total 87
ave .036

disc size is 79:15


#19

Originally posted by cd pirate

BoSkin- why do you keep testing @ 8x. it makes no difference.
to tell the truth, i think you would get less errors at a higher speed.

8x read=
max 5
total 152
ave= .038

max (52x)=
max 4
total 87
ave .036

disc size is 79:15
Here we go. You just answered your own question - the max speed test is less accurate.



#20

look- you just proved that the speed doesnt make much difference with those pics. wouldnt you rather save 6 or more minutes of your time and scan at max speed??