I have a Intel P2-450, two celerons (466 & 600) a AMD-K6 233 and a AMD Duron-700. The PII is still running strong, although its a little outdated now. I haven’t ever had a problem with it. The celerons are complete garbage as far as I’m concerned. I get crappy rates on just about everything. The K6 is a hell of a lot better than my previous Pentium MMX-166, or a Cyrix-200. I haven’t had a drop of trouble with it, although it is a little slow for 233MHz. And finally, the AMD-Duron-700MHz. This computer is my latest addition, and I am really pleased with it. It runs perfectly, with a few exceptions which I think are the motherboards’ fault. Despite the fact that all of these systems run good. When I finally spring for a TRULY new system, I will probably end up buying a PIV. Not because of performance by any means, the AMD chips are just as good, debatably better. The reasons to go with a Intel chip, is that they have better motherboards, and their chips are optimized in games. It’s that simple. Perhaps if more companies optimized their software for AMD, and/or AMD started making motherboards, then AMD would be my upgrade path. Some people seem to think that Intel is a horrible company, equal to Microsoft. I see it slightly differrent. AMD and Intel have been working against each other since the 486 (the 386 and earlier AMD actually made math co-processors for Intel chips.) Intel made a better product up until the Pentium Pro, where AMD stepped in with the K6 and beat the hell out of them. There is nothing that makes a bad company out of Intel, just for having a larger following. That isn’t Intel’s fault… its AMD’s fault for making a worse product about 6 years back. In a few years the roles might be reversed. Why is Microsoft such a horrible company? I still don’t understand this. They sell a product (MS Windows v.whatever) which companies buy, and people buy, and OEM’s buy. This software costs over $200. Is there anyone out there who wants to spend $200-2000 on an operating system that doesn’t come with an internet browser? When I install an OS on a computer, the first thing I do is get drivers, which requires an internet browser. WHERE am I going to get an internet browser if Windows doesn’t have one that comes with it? Am I going to have to go back to Wal-Mart and buy Netscape or Internet Explorer? That is absurd. If I’m spending $200+ on a piece of software, it had damn well better come with something. I don’t use IE for the most part anyway, I use Opera. If you don’t have it, you should get it. I have Internet Explorer 6 and Opera 6. It is obvious that Opera is faster at loading webpages. All the same, just because Opera is a better product doesn’t make the other product’s makers bad.