Epson Expression 600 Printer

vbimport

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We’ve had 8 of these among office workers, mostly doing Printable CDs-DVDs, and these produce the same quality results as the previous Epsons have - very nice.

This is a 5-cartridge printer but this time they’ve gone back to ancient HP Deskjet ways and one-upped them - the Epson keeps it’s PhotoBlack cartridge in-place, always available - no silly HP Mid-Stream Halts & Change-Horse routines.

There’s a double-size Black, plus Magenta, Yellow and Cyan, and that PhotoBlack - 5 cartridges in a 6-wide carriage because of the double-wide Black.

Disk printing has gone back to the R- and RX- standards of using a hand-fed tray in a superiorly-designed slot.

For R- and RX- users, you’re used to feeding the tray in ‘lengthwise’ but the Impression does it sideways, so the Printer’s real dimensions are almost R-200-ish, but low and flat. Very nice, very small, compared to the RX and Artisans.

But after 2 years with 100+ Artisans in our service-base, the hand-fed tray seems antiquated and almost unpleasant. This ‘sideways feed’ is a lot studier than the lengthwise one, by the way, but “Death Of The Printer” will likely be “Feed Rollers Get Slick & Die”.

The Artisan’s escalator-internal-feedtray mechanism seemed flimsy at first, but now I’m thinking it’s the better alternative.

That said, we haven’t had any Artisans fail but I have a feeling that escalator-tray’s feed mechanism will be it’s death-knell, too.

For Epson engineers to try this Escalator but then abandon it with the Impression series makes me think THEIR service center might have issued warnings to the designers - “'Tis better to hand-feed than not auto-feed at all.”

All the more reason to snap up a few more Artisans for our inventory!

The Impressions come in 5 numbered flavors - 200, 300, 400 don’t do disk-printing, and are sub-$100. The 600 and 800 series ($150-250?) offer the direct-disk printing.

As a note, today March 6, 2013, Office Depot is selling the Impression 600s for a VERY nice $99. VERY nice.


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Blu, if you’ve jumped over here, I wanted to comment on the space-required for Artisans vs. Impression 600s.

The Artisans are HUGE. Plan on a 19-inch by 19-inch desk space for them. HUGE. The Impressions are 17-inch wide by 14-inch deep. Much smaller, yet the flatbed scanner size is identical.

USING THE ARTISAN vs THE IMPRESSION 600…

Coming off of the Epson R-series and the RX-series, I was used to hitting my screen’s PRINT button and a confirmation-to-print-on-disk button, and that was it. Slide the tray it, and those printers sucked them in.

On the Artisans, there’s another step - I have to ‘tap’ a button on the printer’s face itself. WHY?!! I dunno. Quite maddening.

On the Impressions, it gets worse. I have TWO taps to do, plus I have to pull out two paper-feed parts before inserting the Disk Tray. Of course, I can leave those ‘sticking out’ all the time… unless I want to print something on paper, then those have to be shoved back in.

The Impression’s Disk-Tray has alignment ‘paint points’ on it to indicate how far to insert the tray initially. These are clear and easily visible, either from above or if the printer is set ‘higher’ on a desk than my keyboard.

Our test Impression 600s are printing a disk-volume similar to these same users’ Artisan print-volume, and they are using less ink. Which is less expensive, too, so they feel like this is probably a 15-20% savings in Ink Cartridges. We’ll see in a few more months.

(We don’t use Clone Ink Cartridges on the Artisans because we had Clone-Black’s clogging up - no other color did - strange huh?) and the Clean-Out process of a Genuine Epson Black consumed about a third of it! So it was cheaper and less time-consuming to stick with Epson Genuines.)

We will investigate the Clone Inks for the Impressions eventually, too, both with a New Unit and one of these original ones.

There are CISS units available, some with excellent reputations, and we will try those, too. “It’s on the list-!” Yeah yeah…


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A note about Refurbished Printers. I don’t mind buying Refurbs BUT that’s because I don’t live with ‘only one printer’. If I only had one and relied on it, then I’d always have a spare printer, boxed up, ready to go AND I’d investigate “Where can I take a printer for servicing?” options.

We’re in Austin. The nearest Epson certified dealer is San Antonio. That’s $20 shipping each way. $40. Or that much in gasoline, plus the inevitable side trip to some great cafe, etc. And do that twice, once down there, once back. The money adds up.

In addition, I’d send along a set of new ink cartridges for the service-center’s use. That’s uh $70. They might only use 10-20%. They might use 50%.

Another cost-outlay.

We’re now well over the $100 cash-outlay for Epson Service.

“Why don’t I just buy another Refurb Printer from Epson for $99 or $109?”

Yes. Indeed.


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[QUOTE=ChristineBCW;2686738]
(We don’t use Clone Ink Cartridges on the Artisans because we had Clone-Black’s clogging up - no other color did - strange huh?) and the Clean-Out process of a Genuine Epson Black consumed about a third of it! So it was cheaper and less time-consuming to stick with Epson Genuines.)

We will investigate the Clone Inks for the Impressions eventually, too, both with a New Unit and one of these original ones.

There are CISS units available, some with excellent reputations, and we will try those, too. “It’s on the list-!” Yeah yeah…[/QUOTE]

Grrrrrr!! You got that right. After many failed experiments with CISS for my Epson Rs and RXs, I found one that NEVER clogged the heads and was even more resistant to drying/clogging at the heads from disuse than Epson’s ink. Stuck with it and had perfect results in my Artisan. But when I came across a new CISS using the highly-touted “Image Specialists” ink, I just had to try one in my Artisan 800 :doh:.

After a couple months of using it, sure enough. “the print head is clogged too badly for cleaning cycle to clear it, wait 8 hours and try again” error message. Yep. The black :a.

On the up side, I threw Devin’s ink;) back in there and a few days later back to normal :clap:.

I had been seriously considering trying an Expression when the Artisan was in trouble, but “I have TWO taps to do, plus I have to pull out two paper-feed parts before inserting the Disk Tray” ?? I can deal with a print tray OK, but disassemble/reassemble the printer to print a disc? Maybe not.

But I do love me some Epson refurb deals :). Time to stock up on Arty’s?


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It is DEFINITELY time (getting close to PAST!) for Artisan stockpiling. We do not get the 800-series because the auto-feed sits on top (where I can stack sooo many other things on flat 700-series surface!!) but we have been buying some of those as well.

Did you have trouble adjusting to the single-tap on the Artisan face before it would print? I did. I spent a good 50-60 disk prints arguing with it (I tried every cuss word, every foul look of mine - yet it still resisted until I’d tap that GO AHEAD FINALLY NOW button).

I have to do that twice on the Impressions. Sheesh. Tap… wait wait wait… tap again. Jeepers… what is WITH that, Epson Engineers?!!

On the Artisan, I had to learn to fold down the lower paper-flap. I had to peal up the top LED panel. This is similar to the machinations required for the Impression except pulling out the paper-tray is more like the FEED-OUT tray - where paper rolls out onto, after printing.

But that isn’t clear UNLESS you read instructions (who does THAT?!!). I can leave that sticking out and never need to stick it in. This is partly a nod to the smaller footprint of the box, too - probably to make the footprint smaller, Epson adopted this Chinese-puzzle-box routine of pulling out different parts to clear the path.

My only concern remains for the engineering differences of the Artisan’s “escalator feed” vs the long-time “hand-fed tray”. I know all of our R and RX printers ‘died’ basically because the feed-rollers slicked up, over time.

Did the Artisans work too well and maybe never die like that? Did Mr. Epson whine, “We can’t have a perfect product! We’d never sell another unit then”?

Or were there field reports citing mass failings, way-too-expensive repairs under warranty, etc.? I can see both scenarios. We’ve got 120+ Artisans among our clients and staff, and no feed problems on those. They all do dozens of disks a week, maybe a dozen sheets a paper.

Our customers still have over a hundred RXs, too, but we’re down to about 40 R’s. (All of those are CISS’s and we’ve been assured that I can pry those from their dead fingers. We’ve learned how to handle Epson’s evil fuse-blown feed-counters that demand $75 service for a 20-cent fuse and four screws. Grrr.)

And we’ve learned to disallow Epson’s event manager from passing thru our firewall - it still has to function during computer operations, but by blocking access to phone-home, it won’t get auto-updates to snitch when we might be using non-Epson cartridges!

As BLU brought up, “size” is an issue and the Impression goes a nice distance to offer a solution. But is Hand-Fed truly better FOR THE PRINTER than Auto-Feed?

We’ll never get answers, I suspect.