DW1640 only burns Verbatim DL at 4X

bobmitch 2005-08-09 11:47:08 UTC #1

Even my Plextor PX-740 with firmware burns at 8X. What's up with Benq. Firmware BSJB. Burn on the Plex starts at 6X and shifts to 8X. Burn with Benq starts and stays at 4X throughout. Is it the firmware?????

Bob

alan1476 2005-08-09 11:53:07 UTC #2

Yes, I am expecting an update with BSKB

bobmitch 2005-08-09 12:04:27 UTC #3

While I was waiting for your reply...I cross flashed my Plextor...same thing...4X burn...that stinks. Well...flashed my Plexy back and at least one of them burns DL at 8X.

Bob

Let's hope that BSKB does it

Dalen_Quaice 2005-08-09 12:34:02 UTC #4

Although ala42 said that Plextor 1.01 firmware for the 740 is an "older BenQ" firmware, this does not really appear to be the case as there are subtle differences. Does anyone know how to open and look at the media codes in the Plextor firmware? A hex editor maybe?

zevia 2005-08-09 12:46:56 UTC #5

@bobmitch
I have no problem burning Verbatim +R DL MKM001 @8x with BSJB.

dsdarli 2005-08-09 13:00:03 UTC #6

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R DL] - [Not Available]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Kagaku Media]
Manufacturer ID : [MKM]
Media Type ID : [001]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8.55 GB (7.96 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : []

** INFO : Drive = BENQ DVD DD DW1640 [FW BSJB]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 kBps ( 2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 kBps ( 2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

There is no problem with the firmware. If you don't get an 8X option then you need to look elsewhere. BSHB also has the same write strat.

tehGrue 2005-08-09 13:03:13 UTC #7

Yep, it really sucks that you can't burn 2.4x media at 8x.

bobmitch 2005-08-09 13:44:52 UTC #8

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MKM 001 (000)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 7.96 GB
: 8152 MB
: 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.98 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
ADIP Information (11h)
0000 - 01 01 01 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF AD 00 - ................
0010 - 00 3F B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 9D 23 B3 00 - .?...........#..
0020 - FC 0B B7 00 C8 0B B7 00 34 00 00 00 75 23 B3 00 - ........4...u#..
0030 - 9D 23 B3 00 C4 15 B6 00 A5 23 B3 00 60 F7 01 13 - .#.......#..`...

I get the option for 8X...the drive just doesn't burn it at 8X. Nero 6.6.0.16 burns at only 4X. A 7.9 GB burn took me almost 28 minutes. Can't figure out what is wrong...possibly a bad flash of firmware?????
Bob

Qyngali 2005-08-09 14:46:28 UTC #9

Try burning with something else, dvddecrypter, Imgtool Burn, or at least update to a newer version of Nero.

ala42 2005-08-09 15:13:33 UTC #10

A hexeditor is not sufficient. Here are the add on MIDs of the Plextor 1.01 firmware compared with BSHB, all other MIDs and speeds are identical:


diff 101_speedsettings.txt BSHB_speedsettings.txt
< Firmware: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A  1.0106/15/05
> Firmware: BENQ    DVD DD DW1640   BSHB

DVD+R
< FTI      016-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
< NANYA    RJB-000
< RITEK    F16-001 16x,12x,8x,4x

DVD-R
< RITEKM16        16x,12x,8x,4x

DVD-RW
< TDK701saku      6x

dsdarli 2005-08-09 18:19:35 UTC #11

Stock BSJB using CDspeed Create Data Disc.

More of a curiousity to see if the drive would do 8X w/Verbatim. Thought I'd waste one before actually using them for something I want to keep.

ninbang 2005-08-09 18:50:39 UTC #12

That's one expensive scan then ...

bobmitch 2005-08-09 18:55:35 UTC #13

My version of Nero is 6.6.0.15...came out a few days ago...there is obviously something going on with the firmware...same result when I cross flashed my Plextor 740...

Bob

Maybe I should flash the Benq as a Plextor and let it go at that

ninbang 2005-08-09 19:01:40 UTC #14

Um, do you mean 6.6.0.16? I think 6.6.0.15's been out for a short while. I could be wrong.

bobmitch 2005-08-09 19:17:29 UTC #15

6.6.0.16 released 8/5/05

ninbang 2005-08-09 20:03:52 UTC #16

Thanks, bobmitch. Btw, do you notice any improvement in yours burns using the newer version?

zevia 2005-08-09 20:13:28 UTC #17

Where's the quality scan dsdarli?

dsdarli 2005-08-09 21:41:19 UTC #18

I was wondering if there was any interest.

ok.... so it aint the greatest.....

Ninbang: got them at the Office Depot sale so I made a $3.33 frisbee versus a $7.00 frisbee. That being said... I'm still trying to figure out what to use them on.

If it didn't have the mountain at 1.5 gig it might of turned out pretty nice.

bobmitch 2005-08-09 22:05:18 UTC #19

By the way...the Benq is on IDE 1 as slave to the Plextor PX-740A...any thoughts on that???

Bob

bobmitch 2005-08-09 22:27:03 UTC #20

OK...now I'm running the Benq on IDE 1 as master. As I type this on my laptop, I am getting an 8X burn on my desktop. I am wasting a DL disk...feeling pretty rich about it...grabbed two 10 paks at Best Buy this week at $39 each...on sale til Saturday. I will post some graphs later...Using CD/DVD Speed. Wonder if this means I leave the Plextor as slave.

Bob