DvdFab HD Decrypter made ISO without layer break...now what?

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#1

I have been using DvdFab 8 in full disc mode, then HD Decrypter once that expired, to make 1:1 copies into .iso files to save on my computer for burning at a later time. Now I would like to burn them onto DVD+R DL discs to play in standalone dvd players. I have tried using ImgBurn but keep getting the “end of the world” problem because there isn’t a layer break. I burned two .iso files with the VSO engine but both time got a burn fail message and although they both played in my standalone dvd player there was alot of skipping and freezing. I would like to learn to burn them onto dual layer discs with proper layer breaks. After reading numerous forums and posts I still can’t figure it out. I’ve attempted mounting the .iso and reading them with ImgBurn and burning that way. I’ve also tried mounting the .iso and reading in dvdfab to get video_ts folders & then burning those with imgburn to no avail. It always comes down to not having a layer break. And when I got to choose one in ImgBurn their is never any suggested ones as either “good” nor “excellent.” I have found out that I should have deselected the “remove layer break” in Dvdfab from the beginning but since I didn’t what can I do about the many .iso files I’ve already ripped? So basically my question is…how do I burn .iso files made by dvdfab, with the layer breaks already removed, onto dvd+r dl discs that can play in standalone dvd players?


#2

Ohh you’re getting into complicated stuff now.

The ‘end of the world’ message is fairly rare, so much so that I haven’t bothered including it in my layer break guide.

I can’t see you having that many rips that would have that problem but you’ll either need to re-rip (keeping the original layer break) or split the cell suggested by ImgBurn.

VobBlanker is probably the easiest tool for doing this.

Post a screen dump of the ImgBurn warning message and I’ll give you some pointers.

[B]Wombler [/B]


#3

Have you ever thought of opening the ISO using DVD Shrink “Open Disc Image” and save as Video_TS/Audio_TS and then use ImgBurn to select a layer break ?, Oh don’t know if you know this or not but you can have the free HD Decrpter to burn to disc using either nero or ImgBurn to DVD9.


#4

[QUOTE=StormJumper;2594689]Have you ever thought of opening the ISO using DVD Shrink “Open Disc Image” and save as Video_TS/Audio_TS and then use ImgBurn to select a layer break ?, Oh don’t know if you know this or not but you can have the free HD Decrpter to burn to disc using either nero or ImgBurn to DVD9.[/QUOTE]

There are no valid layer break positions to select.

ImgBurn aligns the start of a suitable cell at the layer break position.

When you get the ‘end of the world’ message it means that there are no suitable cells available that can be aligned correctly according to the DVD-Video Specifications for DL discs.

This normally occurs when the disc is exceptionally full and to fix it you have to either delete material from the disc or create a suitable cell by splitting an existing cell at the correct location.

It’s one of the scenarios that I thought I might add to my layer break guide but no one’s ever asked about it before as it’s a relatively rare occurrence.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#5

Thanks for that info my friend :cool:


#6

[QUOTE=StormJumper;2594700]Thanks for that info my friend :cool:[/QUOTE]

No problem. :flower:

BTW when there’s no valid cell ImgBurn disregards the cell alignment and simply splits the disc roughly 50/50, although it will still ensure that the size of Layer 0 is greater than or equal to Layer 1.

The reason for the warning is that this produces a non-compliant disc which as the OP has discovered may not play properly in certain players.

It’s probably possible to place the layer break at the start of a VOBU (which is the sub-unit within a cell) but ImgBurn doesn’t currently support this and in any case I reckon it’s better to produce a fully compliant disc by splitting the cell with VobBlanker.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#7

I think you have to break down and get the paid version of DVDFab, it automatically does all the Layer Breaks. This is all I use to Burn Back ups on both Single and Dual Layer Verbatim Discs. :cool:


#8

[QUOTE=alchav21;2594721]I think you have to break down and get the paid version of DVDFab, it automatically does all the Layer Breaks. This is all I use to Burn Back ups on both Single and Dual Layer Verbatim Discs. :cool:[/QUOTE]

This error only occurs when there is no valid layer break position to be selected so DVDFab can’t resolve this either.

Have a look at my previous posts in this thread for a full explanation.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#9

Thanks for all your suggestions. I haven’t tried vobblanker yet I was hoping there was another way. The message I get now isn’t the “end of the world” message its the “no layer break found do you want to continue” message. How do I proceed, even with vobblanker, without the info on where the layer break should be placed? Here is the burn log. I proceeded anyway but its skipping alot in my standalone player.

I 16:55:00 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!
I 16:55:00 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 16:55:00 Total Physical Memory: 3,926,940 KB  -  Available: 2,232,264 KB
I 16:55:00 Initialising SPTI...
I 16:55:00 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 16:55:00 -> Drive 1 - Info: DVDFab Virtual Drive 1.1 (F:) (SCSI)
I 16:55:00 -> Drive 2 - Info: hp CDDVDW TS-L633R 0200 (E:) (SATA)
I 16:55:00 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 HD DVD-ROM!
I 16:59:18 Operation Started!
I 16:59:18 Source File: C:\Users\GustosolAngel\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\GREEN_HORNET.iso
I 16:59:18 Source File Sectors: 2,978,880 (MODE1/2048)
I 16:59:18 Source File Size: 6,100,746,240 bytes
I 16:59:18 Source File Volume Identifier: GREEN_HORNET
I 16:59:18 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3EA611D2________GREEN_HORNET
I 16:59:18 Source File Implementation Identifier: VsoSoftware
I 16:59:18 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 16:59:18 Destination Device: [0:0:0] hp CDDVDW TS-L633R 0200 (E:) (SATA)
I 16:59:18 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 16:59:18 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 16:59:18 Write Mode: DVD
I 16:59:18 Write Type: DAO
I 16:59:18 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 16:59:18 Link Size: Auto
I 16:59:18 Lock Volume: Yes
I 16:59:18 Test Mode: No
I 16:59:18 OPC: No
I 16:59:18 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 16:59:18 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
W 16:59:39 Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: None Found! (VTS_01)
I 16:59:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,494,432
I 16:59:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary, VOBU Boundary
I 17:00:28 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 17:00:29 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 17:00:30 Writing LeadIn...
I 17:00:33 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2978879)
I 17:00:33 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2978879)
I 17:00:33 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1494431)
I 17:15:48 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1494432 - 2978879)
I 17:30:51 Synchronising Cache...
I 17:30:54 Closing Track...
I 17:30:56 Finalising Disc...
I 17:32:21 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:32:21 Graph Data File: C:\Users\GustosolAngel\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_CDDVDW_TS-L633R_0200_SUNDAY-JULY-03-2011_4-59_PM_RITEK-D01-01_2.4x.ibg
I 17:32:21 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:32:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:33:02
I 17:32:21 Average Write Rate: 3,278 KB/s (2.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,432 KB/s (2.5x)
I 17:32:21 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 17:32:44 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 17:32:52 Device Ready!
I 17:33:01 Operation Started!
I 17:33:01 Source Device: [0:0:0] hp CDDVDW TS-L633R 0200 (E:) (SATA)
I 17:33:01 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 17:33:01 Image File: C:\Users\GustosolAngel\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\GREEN_HORNET.iso
I 17:33:01 Image File Sectors: 2,978,880 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:33:01 Image File Size: 6,100,746,240 bytes
I 17:33:01 Image File Volume Identifier: GREEN_HORNET
I 17:33:01 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 3EA611D2________GREEN_HORNET
I 17:33:01 Image File Implementation Identifier: VsoSoftware
I 17:33:01 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 17:33:01 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 17:33:02 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2978879)
I 17:33:02 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2978879)
I 17:33:02 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1494431)
I 17:39:55 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1494432 - 2978879)
I 17:46:45 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:46:45 Graph Data File: C:\Users\GustosolAngel\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\hp_CDDVDW_TS-L633R_0200_SUNDAY-JULY-03-2011_4-59_PM_RITEK-D01-01_2.4x.ibg
I 17:46:45 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:46:45 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:13:43
I 17:46:45 Average Verify Rate: 7,239 KB/s (5.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 10,082 KB/s (7.3x)

#10

I proceeded anyway but its skipping alot in my standalone player.

And here’s probably why:

DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01)


#11

[QUOTE=KhadijahLarkins;2594889]Thanks for all your suggestions. I haven’t tried vobblanker yet I was hoping there was another way. The message I get now isn’t the “end of the world” message its the “no layer break found do you want to continue” message. How do I proceed, even with vobblanker, without the info on where the layer break should be placed? Here is the burn log. I proceeded anyway but its skipping alot in my standalone player.
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In those circumstances your easiest option is to re-rip that particular disc with the “remove layer break” option deselected in DVDFab.

As olyteddy says though your choice of media is probably contributing to your problems.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#13

Extract that ISO somewhere (or just mount it in a virtual drive) and make a new one with Build mode.

ImgBurn can’t align stuff or give you the ‘end of the world’ message unless it’s working in Build mode.

If you’ve already tried that, post an updated log - your one above shows you burning an ISO.


#14

Thanks for all the replys! Lightning UK yours was the most helpful and the simplest to follow. I just mounted the iso with dvdfab virtual drive and copied them onto my cpu, then used the video ts folder to build a new iso with imgburn. Worked like a charm!


#15

[QUOTE=KhadijahLarkins;2596347]Thanks for all the replys! Lightning UK yours was the most helpful and the simplest to follow. I just mounted the iso with dvdfab virtual drive and copied them onto my cpu, then used the video ts folder to build a new iso with imgburn. Worked like a charm![/QUOTE]

All, pretty new at this and have used primarily dvdfab\dvdshrink\imgburn to backup dvds. Just the other day I backed up a DVD using dvdfab, no issues it created the correct audio and video folders. Then I used dvd shrink to create the iso file, no problem again. But when I used imgburn, I get the following message:

Can someone give me some instructions on how to proceed? Do I need to run dvdfab again on the original dvd or can I do something elsewhere… perhaps with image burn as suggested in the prior replies, although it’s not too clear to me what needs to be done.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



#16

That’s an ImgBurn error that happens very rarely and basically means that the disc is too full to allow for the layer break cell realignment.

There are technically involved ways of fixing this but they’re not that simple to explain and the software involved is aimed at reasonably expert users.

I can think of several relatively simple ways of bypassing this completely though.

One would be to do a movie only backup.

Two would be to remove some unwanted or inconsequential content (unnecessary audio tracks, unwanted extras, warnings etc.).

Three would be to compress the content slightly with a slight associated loss in quality.

Four would be to shrink the menus with MenuShrink which converts motion menus to a still of your choice and is very easy to use.

If you need any assistance though let me know and I’ll be happy to advise further.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#17

Then I used dvd shrink to create the iso file

DVD Shrink can’t handle layer breaks very well. Try to build/create the ISO file with ImgBurn instead.


#18

Trying to create the ISO with imgburn rather than dvdshrink. Here is what comes up:

Not sure what I should select at this point. Any thoughts? If I select ignore layer break, then it states I cannot burn to a double layer disk, which I am trying to do to preserve the quality.

Regarding the other comment above about the file being to large, I’m trying to put the image on a dl 8.5gb, and the image size is 7.4gb.



#19

Read Wombler’s guide.


#20

[QUOTE=LIGHTNING UK!;2624140]Read Wombler’s guide.

Thanks and I take that as a big compliment coming from you. :flower:

I must have done a reasonable enough job of that guide to have the program’s author directing someone to it. :cool:

[B]Wombler[/B]


#21

Well Wombler we all used it, it is a great guide.