DVDFab 5.2.3.2 keeps stalling on "large" DVD's

I have consistently had issues making backups of “large” DVD’s – it seems to happen when the compression percentage is “high” (the number is less than 60%). I have tried split and custom split with no success.

I have also used DVD9 to keep the percentage at 100%, with the same results. And, I have tried writing to the hard drive with the same results.

The analyze works fine. Copy starts out okay, but the transfer rate eventually goes down to below 1MB/sec and the project completion time goes up to 24 hours. Eventually – usually somewhere around 40% copying if I let it go overnight, for example – the task remaining time goes to zero (0:00:00) and copying stops.

Here are recent logs, including one that shows a smaller disc that copied fine.

2009-03-19 09:15:46 ---- ******************** Log session stop 19-Mar 09:15:46.531 PID 3632********************
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-19 02:51:37 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-19 02:51:37 ---- ******************** Log session start 19-Mar 02:51:37.750 PID 3632********************

2009-03-19 02:50:13 ---- ******************** Log session stop 19-Mar 02:50:13.671 PID 3632********************
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-19 02:50:13 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-19 02:50:13 ---- ******************** Log session start 19-Mar 02:50:13.062 PID 3632********************

2009-03-18 12:05:08 ---- ******************** Log session stop 18-Mar 12:05:08.281 PID 1884********************
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-18 12:05:07 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-18 12:05:07 ---- ******************** Log session start 18-Mar 12:05:07.671 PID 1884********************

2009-03-18 08:00:59 ---- ******************** Log session stop 18-Mar 08:00:59.640 PID 2140********************
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info DLL : e:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info ExeName : e:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-18 00:39:57 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-18 00:39:57 ---- ******************** Log session start 18-Mar 00:39:57.859 PID 2140********************

2009-03-18 00:38:38 ---- ******************** Log session stop 18-Mar 00:38:38.890 PID 2140********************
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info DLL : e:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info ExeName : e:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-18 00:38:38 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-18 00:38:38 ---- ******************** Log session start 18-Mar 00:38:38.328 PID 2140********************

2009-03-18 00:35:37 ---- ******************** Log session stop 18-Mar 00:35:37.984 PID 524********************
2009-03-18 00:34:43 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2009-03-18 00:34:43 Info Finalization Time 00:00:20 - Total completion time 00:07:49
2009-03-18 00:34:23 Info Write finished in 00:07:28 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 7.98
2009-03-18 00:27:23 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 1
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Write started 2202384 sectors to write
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Available write speed: 16x, 12x, 8x,
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Media ID: RITEKF1
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Media type: DVD-R
2009-03-18 00:26:54 Info Ultra DMA mode 5 (ATA100)
2009-03-18 00:26:51 Info Scanned files #19, folder #2 - total size 4509347840 b. (4.2 Gb.)
2009-03-18 00:26:51 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
2009-03-18 00:26:51 Info Write started
2009-03-18 00:26:50 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-03-18 00:25:45 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2009-03-18 00:25:45 Info Finalization Time 00:00:28 - Total completion time 00:07:49
2009-03-18 00:25:17 Info Write finished in 00:07:20 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 8.12
2009-03-18 00:18:03 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 1
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Write started 2202384 sectors to write
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Init success: DVD+R
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Available write speed: 16x, 12x, 8x,
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Media ID: RITEK-F16-01
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Media type: DVD+R
2009-03-18 00:17:56 Info Ultra DMA mode 5 (ATA100)
2009-03-18 00:17:53 Info Scanned files #19, folder #2 - total size 4509347840 b. (4.2 Gb.)
2009-03-18 00:17:53 Info Inserted media type : DVD+R
2009-03-18 00:17:53 Info Write started
2009-03-18 00:17:52 Info New media (DVD+R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-03-18 00:17:11 Info Media removed. Burning layer not ready to write
2009-03-18 00:17:11 Info New media (DVD+R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info DLL Version : 3.2.2.402
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info Version : 5, 2, 2, 2
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-18 00:00:28 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-18 00:00:28 ---- ******************** Log session start 18-Mar 00:00:28.234 PID 524********************

Hi tngenewhiz and welcome,

A few thoughts…
60% compression or greater is far too much compression for attempting video archiving with any hope of decent results. Can you do this? perhaps, depending on various factors…bitrate of the original files, your hardware, size of the screen, what your eyes will put up with, etc., etc.

Personally, I draw my own line in the sand somewhere around 80-85% or so. I have gone to the low 50’s% with pretty decent results on episodic discs (tv) and even on some movies, but this is just experimental stuff on my part and I don’t recommend this for archiving.

It’s likely that you can push the rate of compression further with top quality media…Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim as opposed to the Ritek media but I wouldn’t push as far as you attempted…with any media.

Personally, I burn to DL media once I decide that the compression is excessive. Should you decide on this route, the [B]only[/B] consistently recommended DL media is Verbatim +R DL

I’ve never been a fan of split or custom split.
If you decide to stay with SL media, I’d recommend trying Customize Mode (not split) and configure each disc manually.
This process has worked well in past years for some of us old timers.

You can always give ImgBurn a try as the burn engine instead of the default VSO. Here is a youtube video on how to configure ImgBurn to work with DVDFab http://www.youtube.com/user/dvdfabtroy?gl=CA&hl=en courtesy of a fellow cdfreaks member troy512. Edit: Also I would listen to maineman as you are doing way too much compression for them SL discs

[QUOTE=GJ;2240207]You can always give ImgBurn a try as the burn engine instead of the default VSO. Here is a youtube video on how to configure ImgBurn to work with DVDFab http://www.youtube.com/user/dvdfabtroy?gl=CA&hl=en courtesy of a fellow cdfreaks member troy512. Edit: Also I would listen to maineman as you are doing way too much compression for them SL discs[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys. I did try DVD9 to get 100% to burn to a DL disk, but I still got the same stalling. Any suggestions?

Sorry, I misunderstood some of what’s going on.

So the issue is the progressive slow-down on rips of large files only?
And this occurs whether you’re compressing excessively to an SL disc or ripping to a target size of a DL (dvd9) disc to your hdd?

I’m not sure it will help, but for starters could you post the burn log to one of your DL burns?

[QUOTE=maineman;2240246]Sorry, I misunderstood some of what’s going on.

So the issue is the progressive slow-down on rips of large files only?
And this occurs whether you’re compressing excessively to an SL disc or ripping to a target size of a DL (dvd9) disc to your hdd?

I’m not sure it will help, but for starters could you post the burn log to one of your DL burns?[/QUOTE]

Evening, and thanks again for your assistance –

Here is the log from a 7.2GB DVD that I set to copy at DVD9 (100%). I made sure PathPlayer was disabled, as was suggested in other forum posts.

What I describe below has been consistent with several different “large” DVD’s, regardless of whether I set them to DVD5 or DVD9.

It started out copying at 1.9MB/sec and an estimated time of 1:45:xx. The speed picked up to around 3 or 4MB/sec. As soon as the copying progress hit around 45%, the speed dropped out.

As I write this, the copy speed is down to 0.01MB/sec. I can actually hear faint “seek” sounds coming from the CD/DVD drive. The elapsed time still increases, but the Time Remaining is 00:00:00.

Here is the log up to a couple of minutes ago. Note that the log stopped and started on its own a couple of times.

Also, I’ve attached a screen capture that I grabbed just before I started this post.

2009-03-19 21:39:27 ---- ******************** Log session stop 19-Mar 21:39:27.968 PID 1192********************
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-19 21:39:27 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-19 21:39:27 ---- ******************** Log session start 19-Mar 21:39:27.406 PID 1192********************

2009-03-19 21:38:55 ---- ******************** Log session stop 19-Mar 21:38:55.781 PID 3768********************
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-19 21:38:31 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-19 21:38:31 ---- ******************** Log session start 19-Mar 21:38:31.093 PID 3768********************

2009-03-19 21:30:55 ---- ******************** Log session stop 19-Mar 21:30:55.703 PID 3768********************
2009-03-19 21:24:39 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2009-03-19 21:24:39 Info Finalization Time 00:00:27 - Total completion time 00:07:40
2009-03-19 21:24:11 Info Write finished in 00:07:12 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 8.08
2009-03-19 21:17:06 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 3
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Write started 2149344 sectors to write
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Init success: DVD+R
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Available write speed: 16x, 12x, 8x,
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Media ID: RITEK-F16-01
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Media type: DVD+R
2009-03-19 21:16:59 Info Ultra DMA mode 5 (ATA100)
2009-03-19 21:16:56 Info Scanned files #29, folder #2 - total size 4400715776 b. (4.1 Gb.)
2009-03-19 21:16:56 Info Inserted media type : DVD+R
2009-03-19 21:16:56 Info Write started
2009-03-19 21:16:51 Info New media (DVD+R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD GBC-H20N C102 [D] (Ide)
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info DLL Version : 3.2.4.406
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info DLL : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info Version : 5, 2, 3, 2
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info ExeName : E:\PROGRAM FILES\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2009-03-19 10:55:32 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) with Service Pack 3 5.1
2009-03-19 10:55:32 ---- ******************** Log session start 19-Mar 10:55:32.859 PID 3768********************


I think the symptoms you report in your last post point to problems with your read drive. This drastic slowdown seems to be happening about where the layer break would fall–sure looks like your drive is having problems reading the second layer. Try cleaning it with compressed air or one of the cleaning discs available at Radio Shack and elsewhere. Also make sure the target drive (HDD) or the one that that holds the temp file is defragmented and has plenty (>10GB) of free space. You are in good hands with my good friend Maineman.

I see my good friend signals is on the case. He does love a good mystery and you couldn’t have asked for a more knowledgable or helpful member.
I also think this is most likely a hardware issue and probably your burner as he suggested…although software problems are a possibility.

Definitely try what signals suggests. If you have another ODD or access to one, this would be the time to take it for a spin (:p…sorry about that…getting punchy).

You might also consider running a transfer rate test with nero cd-dvd speed, as well as other benchmark tests.
It’s a free and very useful utility…link in my sig.

Defragging and maintaining adequate free space on your hdd are critical to copying dvds. You could also run chkdsk and see if your hdd is in decent shape and perhaps repair file system errors and recover bad sectors.

If you have multiple applications competing for resources your RAM may be an issue, although I doubt this one is the problem. Check your cabling and connections, but I think this is doubtful too, particularly with such a specific and consistent failure. Still, worth a look.

Another possibility is one that signals mentioned to me, namely overheating. Go ahead do some general housekeeping and blow out all the dust, particularly around heatsinks and fans.

I know there’s some other stuff, but I’m fading fast here.
Tomorrow’s another day.

I figured out it must be the drive. The computer is fairly new, loaded with RAM – dual core processors – lots of HDD space – lastest XP SP’s – current drivers. But, this drive just bogs down and, eventually, DVDFab stops.

I took the same DVD’s to a machine with the same configuration but a [B]Toshiba[/B] drive, and copying as DVD9 or splitting worked. It took hours for some DVD’s, but it did work!

Copies are sooooo much better for households with dogs, kids, and sometimes careless adults…