DVDFab 5.1.2.2 VSO Engine SLOWER

[quote=mjmagicjack;2166834]VSO Total time to burn = Write finished in 00:09:39
Imgburn Total Time to Burn = Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:45

Nero Engine Total Time to Burn = 00:05:07

Same media, Same Speed, Same writer, And im not the only one and some have no problems at all. I do notice this since the last few upgrades put out by DVDFab as others notice the same or other problems.[/quote]

Posted by mjmagicjack
Same media, Same Speed, Same writer,

Is it the same movie? What settings are you using, is one main movie only and the other Full disc, I have no such discrepancy in my testing.

sorry but that’s your log :

2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info Finalization Time 00:00:15 - Total completion time 00:04:07
2008-11-30 00:37:26 Info Write finished in 00:03:51 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 15.36
2008-11-30 00:33:47 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 12497
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Write started 2185216 sectors to write
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Writing speed requested x24.0, effective x24.0
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Available write speed: 24x, 20x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 4x,
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media ID: TYG03
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media type: DVD-R
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Not Applicable to this bus type
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 4474220544 b. (4.17 Gb.)
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
[B]2008-11-30 00:33:31 Info Write started[/B]
2008-11-30 00:28:13 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write

can you tell me what happens between 00:28:13 and 00:33:31 ?
because if it ask you something, you can’t count it before 33:31
which will make the total time slightly different …
please confirm

I did look at them 2008-11-29 21:23:57 Info Finalization Time 00:00:26 - Total completion time 00:10:06
2008-11-29 21:14:03 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 0

This comes out in total time 26 seconds, Im talking major mins here. Forget the seconds.

also your nero time is wrong :

9:17:08 - 9:11:25 = 5 m 43 , where and how did you find 5 min 07 ?

with vso 00:37:42 - 00:33:31 = 4 min 10 ? …

I would appreciate also the edit of the title of the post… from “slow” to slower… because when I read slow, I was thinking it was a huge difference, for now, it is not the case. I don’t think also this burn time difference it making any difference as if you need to do a burn manually outside DVDFab, what time you will save ?

From looking at your log file above I see no problems at all, where are you getting your lost minutes from. please answer this question

2008-11-30 00:33:31 Info Write started
2008-11-30 00:28:13 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write

If you inserted the media at 28:13 and the write did not start until 33:31 something must have been going on, thats 5 minutes, did you not notice? Are you using 1 burner or two?

All is same as stated above, Same burner, Same Media, Clone mode on all 3 engines. Same movie. The only thing that differs in these tests are the burning engines as you seen i used VSO, Imgburn, Nero. All set to burn Verb MCC-004 at 18x. ImgBurn & Nero were neck to neck but VSO crawling write speed.

my fault, I pick the wrong log here. so the time needs to be extracted from the first one.

can you write down the 3 total times as I still think the nero total time is wrong already

[quote=lapinou;2166842]sorry but that’s your log :

2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info Finalization Time 00:00:15 - Total completion time 00:04:07
2008-11-30 00:37:26 Info Write finished in 00:03:51 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 15.36
2008-11-30 00:33:47 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 12497
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Write started 2185216 sectors to write
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Writing speed requested x24.0, effective x24.0
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Available write speed: 24x, 20x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 4x,
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media ID: TYG03
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media type: DVD-R
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Not Applicable to this bus type
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 4474220544 b. (4.17 Gb.)
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
[B]2008-11-30 00:33:31 Info Write started[/B]
2008-11-30 00:28:13 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write

can you tell me what happens between 00:28:13 and 00:33:31 ?
because if it ask you something, you can’t count it before 33:31
which will make the total time slightly different …
please confirm[/quote]

Your not looking at my post, Those are’nt my results. Im the first post. Where you got the post your posting is’nt mine because i don’t even use -R Discs, Plus i was using Verbatim not TY media as you can see by the MID :confused:

Okay, you are right. With all this going on and trying to replicate your problems I may have followed the wrong log. Sorry about that, but believe me I am trying to help you. I see you are using
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[B]2008-11-29 21:13:42 Info New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 [F] (Usb) [/B]
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[/B]Did you use that drive for all the burns? I am just troubleshooting now, because I have a Sony 810A USB drive and I am experincing no problems. Doing my best to help solve this.:wink:

I will tell you in another way. Lets forget about the time the software reads ok!. When i tested i used a regular clock also so that settles any theory of this ones software time is wrong or off etc.

[quote=alan1476;2166850]From looking at your log file above I see no problems at all, where are you getting your lost minutes from. please answer this question
If you inserted the media at 28:13 and the write did not start until 33:31 something must have been going on, thats 5 minutes, did you not notice? Are you using 1 burner or two?[/quote]

1 burner and thats the VSO engine, Img and Nero engine don’t do that.

Hi mjmagicjack do you have another burner? Maybe one that is internal. If you do could you try that and let me know if there is a difference. Thanks.

ok so please sum up your regular clock results too , because for now, it is still not very clear to compare results

also another thing to test, is vso burning is using the same writing mode ? because if it is different you can’t compare ( SAO or Packet Writing doesn’t give the same results )

It comes out that VSO is slower even run at 100% P-ATA direct. I mean never did it before why now. Like i said im not the only one and other problems i don’t get others do. It’s strange. I know where your going with this but i don’t by it because under USB2 if Imgburn engine and Nero is up to speed and time so should VSO. So that makes a simple answer as they would all crawl like a dog if that was the case. Unless this new VSO engine can’t be used with UBS2 which i doub’t. As you see i can rip to ISO 16x or better through USB2 and write 13.5x or better as seen in the NEC forum thru USB2. So no direct PATA thru mother board makes no difference in speed and time. Yeah if i switched to a Pioneer drive 112L, 115L or 116 the results would be a little different as plextor drives 99.9% of them you are stuck with there factory firmware. Except in Plextor’s case best thing you can do is make them RPC1 which has nothing to do with any of this.

Look i will say again, Same write mode, same media, same writer, same everything except different engines. Im not a DVDFab user of 30 days here. Been using it years and the same way unless changes to the software were made that you had to make adjustments. Then i made those adjustments. It is’nt the first time or last i seen VSO and DVDFab have a problem as i seen problems in the past just like others did. In non layman terms if two other burning engines are close so should the VSO engine. It’s really easy to understand.

don’t talk about others, and focus on your own test. please first confirm your total time with nero is incorrect and let’s focus on fact, so give your real clock measure.

[quote=alan1476;2166863]Okay, you are right. With all this going on and trying to replicate your problems I may have followed the wrong log. Sorry about that, but believe me I am trying to help you. I see you are using
Did you use that drive for all the burns? I am just troubleshooting now, because I have a Sony 810A USB drive and I am experincing no problems. Doing my best to help solve this.;)[/quote]

Every thing in total is the same except for burning engines. All done in CLONE mode in all 3 cases.

The results are this as i did’nt write them down. To write that CLONE ISO using VSO it took about 10 mins or just a little more to write 4.03 GB. Using Imgburn engine or Nero Engine took a hair over 5 mins, BIG difference. Again everything the same except switched to 2 other burning engines. Rather simple to understand.