DVDFab 5.1.2.2 VSO Engine SLOWER

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#1

Here is DVDFab used to burn same movie in CLONE mode. 1st is with DVDFab with VSO engine and 2nd is DVDFab with Imgburn engine. Big Difference, And yes we know about the new way to select speed settings in DVDFab for write speed with VSO engine for media. Imgburn blew away VSO by almost 3x

2008-11-29 21:24:12 ---- ******************** Log session stop 29-Nov 21:24:12.797 PID 3692********************
2008-11-29 21:23:57 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2008-11-29 21:23:57 Info Finalization Time 00:00:26 - Total completion time 00:10:06
2008-11-29 21:23:30 Info Write finished in 00:09:39 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 5.93
2008-11-29 21:14:03 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 0
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Write started 2115040 sectors to write
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Init success: DVD+R
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Writing speed requested x18.0, effective x18.0
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Available write speed: 18x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 6x,
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Media ID: MCC-004-00
2008-11-29 21:13:50 Info Media type: DVD+R
2008-11-29 21:13:48 Info Write started
2008-11-29 21:13:44 Info New media (DVD+R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2008-11-29 21:13:42 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2008-11-29 21:13:42 Info Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2008-11-29 21:13:42 Info New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 [F] (Usb)
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info Current Drive selected : 0:0:0 - TSSTcorp DVD±RW TS-L632D DE04 [E] (Ide)
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info System default language : English (United States)
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info User default language : English (United States)
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info DLL Version : 3.1.2.391
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info Version : 5, 1, 2, 2
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe
2008-11-29 21:12:21 Info OS : Microsoft Vista Home edition (build 6001) with Service Pack 1 6.0
2008-11-29 21:12:21 ---- ******************** Log session start 29-Nov 21:12:21.774 PID 3692********************

I 21:27:52 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started!
I 21:27:52 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6001 : Service Pack 1)
I 21:27:52 Total Physical Memory: 3,667,068 KB - Available: 2,732,180 KB
I 21:27:52 Initialising SPTI…
I 21:27:52 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 21:27:52 Found 2 DVD±RWs!
I 21:27:52 Operation Started!
I 21:27:52 Source File: C:\Users\WALL E\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\DEAD_OF_WINTER.iso
I 21:27:52 Source File Sectors: 2,115,030 (MODE1/2048)
I 21:27:52 Source File Size: 4,331,581,440 bytes
I 21:27:52 Source File Volume Identifier: DEAD_OF_WINTER
I 21:27:52 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 392C519DAPPLEDSPDEAD_OF_WINTER
I 21:27:52 Source File Application Identifier: DVD Studio Pro:4.2.1, DSPInterface:431.25, DVDAuthoring:428.41, DVDBase:468.49(Encoder: 570), Oxygene:427
I 21:27:52 Source File Implementation Identifier: Apple Computer, Inc.
I 21:27:52 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 21:27:52 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A 1.07 (F:) (USB)
I 21:27:52 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 21:27:52 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 21:27:52 Write Mode: DVD
I 21:27:52 Write Type: DAO
I 21:27:52 Write Speed: MAX
I 21:27:52 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 21:27:52 Link Size: Auto
I 21:27:52 Test Mode: No
I 21:27:52 OPC: No
I 21:27:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 21:27:57 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 21:27:57 Advanced Settings - AutoStrategy: Auto, PowerRec: Yes
I 21:27:57 Filling Buffer… (40 MB)
I 21:27:58 Writing LeadIn…
I 21:28:15 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2115029)
I 21:28:15 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2115029)
I 21:33:15 Synchronising Cache…
I 21:33:20 Closing Track…
I 21:33:21 Finalising Disc…
I 21:33:44 Exporting Graph Data…
I 21:33:44 Graph Data File: C:\Users\WALL E\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PLEXTOR_DVDR_PX-760A_1.07_SATURDAY-NOVEMBER-29-2008_9-27_PM_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg
I 21:33:44 Export Successfully Completed!
I 21:33:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:45
I 21:33:44 Average Write Rate: 14,147 KB/s (10.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21,096 KB/s (15.2x)
I 21:33:44 Close Request Acknowledged
I 21:33:44 Closing Down…
I 21:33:44 Shutting down SPTI…
I 21:33:44 ImgBurn closed!


#2

Okay, I’m confused. I downloaded 5.1.2.2 and I am again getting failed burn errors like I did with 5.1.2.0: Task_2 failed Error 123.
I am using the same settings I have always used: VSO Burn Engine at 4X burn speed.
What am I doing wrong? I am using Sony DVD-R media.

Thanks


#3

[quote=FILMCZY;2166558]Okay, I’m confused. I downloaded 5.1.2.2 and I am again getting failed burn errors like I did with 5.1.2.0: Task_2 failed Error 123.
I am using the same settings I have always used: VSO Burn Engine at 4X burn speed.
What am I doing wrong? I am using Sony DVD-R media.

Thanks[/quote]

You maybe doing nothing wrong. It maybe the VSO engine. Use DVDFab and use Imgburn engine and see the results. I don’t burn at 4x ever but there is something not right here thats for sure. Your error look above in listed error’s in forum it maybe listed. DVDFab 5.1.2.2 made a clone ISO at over 16x but the VSO burn engine is SLOWWWWWW.


#4

So Imgburn is better than using VSO?

I have never tried it.


#5

[quote=depredador;2166597]So Imgburn is better than using VSO?

I have never tried it.[/quote]

I know what i prefer. But with DVDFab 5.1.2.2 the Imgburn engine is alot faster by far then this new version VSO engine used in 5.1.2.2


#6

[QUOTE=mjmagicjack;2166600]I know what i prefer. But with DVDFab 5.1.2.2 the Imgburn engine is alot faster by far then this new version VSO engine used in 5.1.2.2[/QUOTE]

Does that mean you usually use VSO except for this particular version of DVDFab you use Imgburn?


#7

I’ll put it to you this way, I use DVDFab for everything if i can the way it is. If i can’t then i have to use other popular software to get the job done. Im not one to burn at slow speeds. With the VSO engine thats being used now it’s to slow for the media im using and the speed settings im using. My 1st message shows it all in black and white. The only thing changed to increase the burn speed was the burn engine so thats telling me that the VSO engine being used in DVDFab needs improvment by the VSO ppl as the author of DVDFab does’nt write the VSO engine .


#8

[QUOTE=depredador;2166597]So Imgburn is better than using VSO?

I have never tried it.[/QUOTE]

VSO is increasingly buggy. The advantage of using VSO is that it’s the default burn engine of Platinum and Gold, and as such has always been “better” integrated.

A few tweaks with Img though and it’s a fairly, but not quite a seamless process (with DL’s anyway).

Honestly, I’d try Img. More tools are better right?
Recommend that you make this change:
[B]tools > settings > build > don’t prompt image details[/B].

Img is much more configurable. You’ll see what I mean. For example, you can configure speeds for each burner and each specific media. It’s very cool.
When I pop a verb DL in my Benq 1655, 2.4X is auto-selected cuz faster firmware with this burner is crap. In my litey 20A1S, 4X is ideal and in my sammy 203B, 8x is optimal, etc. You get the idea.

Unfortunately, there’s been some issues with recent versions in getting these auto-selected burn speeds in Img to be communicated correctly within the Fab application.

I still use VSO quite a bit, but I’m using Img more and more.


#9

[QUOTE=mjmagicjack;2166567]You maybe doing nothing wrong. It maybe the VSO engine. Use DVDFab and use Imgburn engine and see the results. I don’t burn at 4x ever but there is something not right here thats for sure. Your error look above in listed error’s in forum it maybe listed. DVDFab 5.1.2.2 made a clone ISO at over 16x but the VSO burn engine is SLOWWWWWW.[/QUOTE]

Downloaded Dvdfab 5.1.1.8 and everything seems to be back to normal. I have never had any problems with Dvdfab updates until now…


#10

No problems with the VSO burn engine being slow here using TYGO3’S :confused: the movie is playing fine too.

2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2008-11-30 00:37:42 Info Finalization Time 00:00:15 - Total completion time 00:04:07
2008-11-30 00:37:26 Info Write finished in 00:03:51 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 15.36
2008-11-30 00:33:47 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 12497
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Write started 2185216 sectors to write
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Init success: DVD-R SAO
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Writing speed requested x24.0, effective x24.0
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Available write speed: 24x, 20x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 4x,
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media ID: TYG03
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Media type: DVD-R
2008-11-30 00:33:34 Info Not Applicable to this bus type
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 4474220544 b. (4.17 Gb.)
2008-11-30 00:33:32 Info Inserted media type : DVD-R
2008-11-30 00:33:31 Info Write started
2008-11-30 00:28:13 Info New media (DVD-R) inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
2008-11-30 00:28:12 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2008-11-30 00:28:12 Info Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2008-11-30 00:28:12 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 1.00 [F] (Ide)
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info Current Drive selected : 0:2:0 - HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL02 [H] (Ide)
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 Async. Access mode
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info System default language : English (United States)
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info User default language : English (United States)
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info DLL Version : 3.1.2.391
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\vso_hwe.dll
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info Version : 5, 1, 2, 2
2008-11-30 00:24:56 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 5\DVDFab.exe


#11

Hi,

I m Fabrice from VSO, I m entering in the loop of this discussion, if I can do some test or explain some differences, I will try to help anyone here.

which comparative test should I run then ?


#12

[QUOTE=maineman;2166606]VSO is increasingly buggy. The advantage of using VSO is that it’s the default burn engine of Platinum and Gold, and as such has always been “better” integrated.

A few tweaks with Img though and it’s a fairly, but not quite a seamless process (with DL’s anyway).

Honestly, I’d try Img. More tools are better right?
Recommend that you make this change:
[B]tools > settings > build > don’t prompt image details[/B].

Img is much more configurable. You’ll see what I mean. For example, you can configure speeds for each burner and each specific media. It’s very cool.
When I pop a verb DL in my Benq 1655, 2.4X is auto-selected cuz faster firmware with this burner is crap. In my litey 20A1S, 4X is ideal and in my sammy 203B, 8x is optimal, etc. You get the idea.

Unfortunately, there’s been some issues with recent versions in getting these auto-selected burn speeds in Img to be communicated correctly within the Fab application.

I still use VSO quite a bit, but I’m using Img more and more.[/QUOTE]

I have no problems with the VSO burn engine and as you have said it is more than likely that the dvdfab program and the VSO engine need to be fixed to work together right…I use the same burn engine in other applications and have had Zero problems same pattin-couffin layer too so I would suspect any issues are part of dvdfab and not VSO.


#13

the integration is very simple, so I won’t think it is due to DVDfab either


#15

Here we showed you what VSO looked liked compared to Imgburn engine, Now here is DVDFab with Nero Engine. Same story VSO lost the race. Look and see!. Same writer, Same Media, Same Movie ISO.





#16

what should I look at ?
do you look at the speed reported by the drive or the real time required to burn ?

can you report the total time for each burn ?


#17

[QUOTE=depredador;2166597]So Imgburn is better than using VSO?

I have never tried it.[/QUOTE]

I just started using ImgBurn two days ago and I’ll never go back to VSO.


#18

I have tested all three burning engine that work with Fab and I find nothing slower or faster about the Pattin Couffin burn engine than any other. In fact, I recommend that people use it. ImgBurn is also a great option but I do not use the Nero engine because I am happy with the VSO and Imgburn. If you look at the VSO Log file , look at the leadin burn times and the finalization times, these are caused by your burn speed and your burner not the program or the burn engine.


#19

I myself have always used the VSO engine except for two times I used Imgburn just to try it and I have no problems with the VSO engine and it burns fast enough for me plus I don’t have to fool around with another burn engine, Happy camper here with the VSO engine


#20

Thankyou Jimbo and if others have questions, they can be easily answered, there is nothing wrong with the VSO option, its as fast as your media and burner will allow, Imgburn is also fine. Vsos burning engine is used in over 20 burning programs that I know of and none of them have problems with burn speed. Its up to the user what burn engine he opts to use. They all work fine. This is not a race, its a way to get the best possible result for your backups.


#21

[quote=lapinou;2166805]what should I look at ?
do you look at the speed reported by the drive or the real time required to burn ?

can you report the total time for each burn ?[/quote]

VSO Total time to burn = Write finished in 00:09:39
Imgburn Total Time to Burn = Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:45

Nero Engine Total Time to Burn = 00:05:07

Same media, Same Speed, Same writer, And im not the only one and some have no problems at all. I do notice this since the last few upgrades put out by DVDFab as others notice the same or other problems. If this is’nt a problem and VSO is going to burn a disc set at 18x at 5+x when i set it for 18x then i and others would’nt use the VSO engine reguardless if its doing it to make a better burn quality. As my copies are tried in at min 5 different DVD standalone players and all play fine including the slow burning VSO copy. Im not into scanning DVD Quality, trt testing and all that. If the clone plays like the original in any DVD player i put it in is all i care and so does most of the other ppl. But to get under a 6x burn when DVDFab is set to 18x with the VSO engine is set to burn at 18x is no good as you see the total time from Imgburn and Nero engine killed VSO in burn time alone.