DVD+Rs (set to DVD-ROM) no longer play in set top

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#1

I have been burning discs with my NEC 3500A with modified firmware 2.18.
Every disc I have burnt so far has played in my old set top player.
Now the latest batch of discs do not get recognized. I confirmed that the discs have been burnt as DVD-ROM using DVDIdentifier, they play on my computer and they play in my roommate’s set top player.
I have no idea why these discs are not playing. I tried my Taiyo Yudens, and my Phillips. Both have successfully played on the set top before. The discs I burnt prior to this issue still play at this time. After going thru seven discs I have no desire to waste anymore.
Does anyone have any ideas???


#2

youve eather brought some cheapo discs or got a bad batch that your player doesnt like. this is normal for 1 dvd player to play a disc while another woun`t play it. try and stick with what works.


#3

Er… not exactly.
I am using the Taiyo Yudens from the same spindle that worked before, same thing with the Phillips discs.


#4

so which is it?


#5

Sorry… I misused the term batch in my initial post. I burn a certain amount of discs every night and I refer to those as my latest batch.
Apologies for the confusion.


#6

If media code are not changed, burn speed not changed, a possible cause is a burning software update ?


#7

Okay… here is the latest.
The three movies in question are - The Thing, behind Enemy Lines and Gangs of New York. The Thing was a success, but the other two are where the problems started. I just made another copy of The Thing and it works! Now I dont know if my issues have gone away or if it’s a problem with the other two movies. Anyone ever heard of an issue like this?? Any known problems with those two movies??
I am gonna try another movie and see if the problem replicates itself.

I am using DvdShrink then Nero for the burns. This combo has proven successful in the past. Is there another Nero type program that I can use that allows bitsetting, is as intuitive as Nero(as far as the interface goes) and integrates with DvdShrink for burning.???
Thanks…


#8

Try to read them with DVDDecrypter (the log can be interesting).


#9

I apologize… I am not exactly sure what you mean.
Do you want me to open the discs in decrypter?? If so, what should I look for??
I am sorry, I am a bit new at this…


#10

Yes, select menu “Mode/File”, then a destination folder an press the “decrypt” arrow.

Post the “DVD Decrypter log” here…


#11

Another dumb question…
You are referring to the original discs right??? Just want to make sure. Ever since these problems cropped up I have been second guessing everything I do.


#12

my prefered method is rip the film to hard drive with dvdderypter as iso then load into dvd shrink then save as iso image then burn with dvddecrypter.


#13

No, on the non working disk. Just want to see if there is a structure problem.


#14

+1, a 100% working and free procedure.

Sometimes, I rip with DVDDecrypter, and use VobBlanker+Pgcedit to remove some stuff before DVDShrink…


#15

I 15:44:46 Operation Started!
I 15:44:46 Source Device: [1:2:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.18 (I:) (ATA)
I 15:44:46 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-E01-00)
I 15:44:46 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 15:44:46 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 15:44:46 Source Media Implementation Identifier: AHEAD Nero
I 15:44:46 Destination Folder: D:\Enemy Lines\VIDEO_TS
I 15:44:46 File Splitting: By File
I 15:44:46 Read Speed: MAX
I 15:44:46 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 15:44:46 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 15:44:46 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 15:44:46 Stream Processing: No
I 15:44:46 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO… (LBA: 304 - 315) - KEY: N/A
I 15:44:49 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB… (LBA: 316 - 997) - KEY: N/A
I 15:44:49 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP… (LBA: 998 - 1009) - KEY: N/A
I 15:44:50 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO… (LBA: 1010 - 1019) - KEY: N/A
I 15:44:50 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB… (LBA: 1020 - 1319) - KEY: N/A
I 15:44:50 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB… (LBA: 1320 - 58791) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:11 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP… (LBA: 58792 - 58801) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:11 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO… (LBA: 58802 - 58810) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:11 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB… (LBA: 58811 - 59110) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:11 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB… (LBA: 59111 - 84635) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:17 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP… (LBA: 84636 - 84644) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:17 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO… (LBA: 84645 - 84654) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:17 Copying VTS_03_0.VOB… (LBA: 84655 - 84954) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:17 Copying VTS_03_1.VOB… (LBA: 84955 - 171185) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:35 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP… (LBA: 171186 - 171195) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:35 Copying VTS_04_0.IFO… (LBA: 171196 - 171252) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:35 Copying VTS_04_0.VOB… (LBA: 171253 - 227664) - KEY: N/A
I 15:45:45 Copying VTS_04_1.VOB… (LBA: 227665 - 751951) - KEY: N/A
I 15:47:09 Copying VTS_04_2.VOB… (LBA: 751952 - 1276238) - KEY: N/A
I 15:48:16 Copying VTS_04_3.VOB… (LBA: 1276239 - 1800525) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:15 Copying VTS_04_4.VOB… (LBA: 1800526 - 2112292) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:45 Copying VTS_04_0.BUP… (LBA: 2112293 - 2112349) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_05_0.IFO… (LBA: 2112350 - 2112358) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_05_0.VOB… (LBA: 2112359 - 2112659) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_05_1.VOB… (LBA: 2112660 - 2114435) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_05_0.BUP… (LBA: 2114436 - 2114444) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_06_0.IFO… (LBA: 2114445 - 2114456) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_06_0.VOB… (LBA: 2114457 - 2114756) - KEY: N/A
I 15:49:46 Copying VTS_06_1.VOB… (LBA: 2114757 - 2260878) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:04 Copying VTS_06_0.BUP… (LBA: 2260879 - 2260890) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:04 Copying VTS_07_0.IFO… (LBA: 2260891 - 2260899) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:05 Copying VTS_07_0.VOB… (LBA: 2260900 - 2261199) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:05 Copying VTS_07_1.VOB… (LBA: 2261200 - 2289043) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:11 Copying VTS_07_0.BUP… (LBA: 2289044 - 2289052) - KEY: N/A
I 15:50:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:25
I 15:50:11 Average Read Rate: 14,084 KB/s (10.2x) - Maximum Read Rate: 21,707 KB/s (15.7x)


#16

It’s CMC MAG-E01 discs (CMC media code), these are not very good discs…
Maybe your drive doesn’t like them, or doesn’t like their error rate (too high ?).

Could you report here the media code of “The Thing” ?


#17

Those are the Phillips discs… The Thing is also on the Phillips discs. I also had the same issue with the Taiyo Yuden discs…

Just tried to burn Memento … same problem…

Here is The Thing on the Phillips DVD+R…

I 16:57:00 Initialising SPTI…
I 16:57:00 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 16:57:00 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD±RW!
I 17:01:59 Operation Started!
I 17:01:59 Source Device: [1:2:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.18 (I:) (ATA)
I 17:01:59 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-E01-00)
I 17:01:59 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 17:01:59 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 17:01:59 Source Media Implementation Identifier: AHEAD Nero
I 17:01:59 Destination Folder: D:\The Thing
I 17:01:59 File Splitting: By File
I 17:01:59 Read Speed: MAX
I 17:01:59 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 17:01:59 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 17:01:59 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 17:01:59 Stream Processing: No
I 17:01:59 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO… (LBA: 284 - 297) - KEY: N/A
I 17:02:02 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB… (LBA: 298 - 5472) - KEY: N/A
I 17:02:04 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP… (LBA: 5473 - 5486) - KEY: N/A
I 17:02:04 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO… (LBA: 5487 - 5517) - KEY: N/A
I 17:02:04 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB… (LBA: 5518 - 6773) - KEY: N/A
I 17:02:04 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB… (LBA: 6774 - 531060) - KEY: N/A
I 17:03:45 Copying VTS_01_2.VOB… (LBA: 531061 - 789277) - KEY: N/A
I 17:04:22 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP… (LBA: 789278 - 789308) - KEY: N/A
I 17:04:22 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO… (LBA: 789309 - 789361) - KEY: N/A
I 17:04:22 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB… (LBA: 789362 - 904304) - KEY: N/A
I 17:04:38 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB… (LBA: 904305 - 1428591) - KEY: N/A
I 17:05:42 Copying VTS_02_2.VOB… (LBA: 1428592 - 1952878) - KEY: N/A
I 17:06:38 Copying VTS_02_3.VOB… (LBA: 1952879 - 2285798) - KEY: N/A
I 17:07:14 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP… (LBA: 2285799 - 2285851) - KEY: N/A
I 17:07:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:15
I 17:07:14 Average Read Rate: 14,511 KB/s (10.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 21,910 KB/s (15.8x)


#18

Did you update something in your system (Nero 6.6.0.x, ASPI driver, … ?)
Otherwise, I don’t understand why the same discs burned before (before what ?) are ok.


#19

The only thing I did prior to The Thing was flash the firmware on a DVD-ROM drive that supplements the NEC and installed the Nvidia Nforce IDE drivers (I removed them previously but everytime I started windows it kept “finding” the IDE channel again and giving weird errors). But I ripped the movies with the NEC again as part of my troubleshooting…


#20

Ok…

I like this “only thing” :bigsmile:
As there are many trouble with such Nvidia IDE drivers, my though is that you’better reinstall XP+Nero and test again.

I think you have a quite “unstable” Windows, and that’s maybe why your burning software produce high error rates… that some of your DVD readers cannot handle.

“Courage !”