The Japanese can see the benefits of a great format, obviously. Interesting info on the longevity of old DVD-RAM media versus new media (to confirm my suspicions): http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=14923 "Another issue is that the new 16x DVD-RAM media do not support a high overwriting cycle, which means that the discs will perform the best before 10,000 overwrites (100,000 for the 1x, 2x, 3x media). Older media is more reliable on the rewrites by 90,000 overwrites! Even Blu-Ray is said to adopt this new material for rewritables, so it doesn’t look like the reliability of the 3x media will be surpassed for some time (at least in consumer circles). Shame to see the best format for easy drag-n-drop saves give in to the speed hype and offer lower quality media (and no cartridges) of its -R(W) cousins. Still, quite a bit better than -RW’s rated 1,000 overwrites, and still offering hardware defect management, I assume.