DVD Overburning - Myth I Believe!

vbimport

#1

Now, many would know that most software gives them the option to overburn dvd’s. Now, is it possible - I really doubt. I invite people with proof of successful overburns of DVD’s to post here since with the burners I have I have yet to be able to make any overburns.

The story goes like this: my only burner which is able to do overburn simulation in cdspeed reports a 4674Mb (TTG02) - BenQ DW 1640. Upon initiating a real burn -> error or hang! Other burners give write error at 4489Mb/Invalid field in CDB etc.

Now … first of all, what’s different from simulation and burn - how can it simulate that capacity yet not be able to burn it?

And has anyone reported an successful overburn? reliably successful?


#2

For Plextor users (708, 712, 716) it’s not a myth. It’s an everyday reality. lol
Search the forum for topics concerning DVD overburning. There were a lot of them.


#3

True that is.
And I also had SL media burnt up to 4496mb without overburning.

Some Pioneer burners can overburn DVD.


#4

Two things that I’ve never seen a single success on (unless I missed it) in CDRINFO’s drive reviews:

  1. DVD overburning
    oops, yes, a Plextor

  2. Mount Rainier on DVD writers, either for CD-RW or DVD+/-RW


#5

You should check these threads:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=89828&page=2&pp=25&highlight=DVD+overburning
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146051&highlight=DVD+overburning


#6

Plextor again:



#7

Plextor PX-712A 1.07 on Verbatim DataLifePlus 16x DVD+R (MCC 004) at 12x.

Enough said!




#8

One More!



#9

jumps up and down - I have a nu-tech … but I’ve never used mt. ranier … the question still stands - how come my BenQ can simulate a capacity but can’t burn a disc dat has even 1MB overburn? (Does anyone really know? Is it just a difference in the commands used in the write process?) What about crossflashing the drive (BenQ 1640) to a plextor? Will that give me overburn?


#10

No.

You can crossflash a 1640 to a Plextor PX-740, but that’s only because a PX-740 is a rebadged 1640 (exactly the same hardware). PX-712 firmware only works on a PX-712, and PX-716 firmware only works on a PX-716. And the PX-740 isn’t capable of overburning DVDs either.

The BenQ 1640 is a very good drive (I’ve got one) but it doesn’t overburn DVDs because it just doesn’t have the necessary hardware to make a shorter lead-in/lead-out and burn in those areas. Plextors always have a few extra gizmos; one called “Gigarec” allows me to burn 925MB on a normal 700MB CDR. But they also cost twice as much (and then some) as other burners.

Mt. Ranier and all the other packet writing software is vastly overrated IMHO.


#11

That pic does only tell us the drive should support Mount Rainier, but nothing about DVD OVERBURNING.
I thought this were the idea behind this topic…


#12

:rolleyes:
Didn’t mean to get off topic. :disagree:


#13

BenQ 1640 can overburn to 4.6 gig, no problem.


#14

Yeah, but that discovery was only made about two days ago… :bigsmile:


#15

(and I just made some too) keeps mouth shut


#16

At least it seems overburning was planned by BenQ.

Using overburning test of CD-DVD Speed with old media less than 4x Speed comes the message : “With this media Overburning is impossible”.

With other media the test is passing by a tolerance up to 20 MB.