I am trying to make a backup of "Saints and Soldiers". I use Ripit4Me to the point where you can open it with DVD Shrink and I stop there. I then use VOBblanker to get rid of some of the FBI warnings, studio animation things, etc. My problem is that I can't get any menus to load in my set top player. I can play the movie with no problems by pressing play, but the disc will not load to the main menu. And if I press menu while playing the movie, it stops the disc. So, I read a little about IFOedit, and used that to play the movie on my comp, and I get a "No valid DVD volume can be located, do you still want to continue?" I select yes and it plays. Next, once it gets to the main menu I get a "DVD Warning: an illegal navigation command was encountered". But it continues to operate normally in the IFOedit player. So I searched a bit and found a "fix" for the illegal navigation error. It my work, but I can't get menus to load in my external player. So I don't know. Basically, my question is what could be wrong with my IFO's that my DVD player will not load the menus? Has anyone encountered this before and know what it wrong? I use DVD-R's, and this is the first burn that has given me any problems. I backup virtually all of my movies. Although this is the first disc I've tried IFOedit with.