DVD Drive wont read blank disks

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#1

Hello everyone, I seem to be having a problem with either both my DVD drives or my disks I bought. Heres the situation.

I went out and bout a 100-pk of Memorex DVD+R’s. Out of the 100pk I used 5 maybe 10 at most. Ive never had a problem with Memorex disks which is why I buy them. Tell now.

I was in the middle of backing up some of my movies I own (with kids you really have no other choice. you now one day its gonna get ruined). I had just finished coping a move the night before bed and when I went to put a fresh blank disk in the next morning to burn, I would get a message that said

“please instert larger media, there isn’t enough space on the current media.”

I took that media out thinking it was bad and put another disk in and got the same message. It seemed odd to me to get 2 damaged disks so I pulled a random disk from the middle of the spool i got and It too failed. To me that seems really Odd for a random disk in the middle not to work.

Lucky for me, I have 2 computers both with DVD drives in them. I went to the 2nd computer and took the spool of disks and did a random pick near the bottom and got the same error message. At this point I started to think it was the media Im trying to copy tell I windows poped open the "what do you want windows to do with the blank (cd/dvd) When it does that on either computer rather than it saying Blank dvd it says blank cd and explorer thinks its a cd. and has 0 free space out of 0 used.

heres where im lost. Could my entire spool of disks be bad or could both lasers on both dvd drives be shot? Ive never had a problem with this. and hope someone can help me out.

Both drives support DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW/DL


#2

Hi and Welcome![QUOTE=valir553;2466856]
I went out and bout a 100-pk of Memorex DVD+R’s.[/quote]some members here call them Memowrecks. I gues they have their reasons for that :wink:
Anyway, trying other media isn’t a bad idea at all. If you want reliable stuff, get Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden.

I was in the middle of backing up some of my movies I own (…) I would get a message that said

"please instert larger media, there isn’t enough space on the current media."
Have you verified, your source material does fit onto a single layer disc? Also make sure there is enough space on your HDD.

Lucky for me, I have 2 computers both with DVD drives in them.
(…)
"what do you want windows to do with the blank (cd/dvd) When it does that on either computer rather than it saying Blank dvd it says blank cd and explorer thinks its a cd. and has 0 free space out of 0 used.
Perfectly normal on Windows XP, which can’t handle blank media at all.

Could you please provide some information about

  • the drives you are using (model# and firmware version would be great)
  • the software you are using for burning
  • the “MID” of the blank media. Good DVD writing software reveals that information. Also does Nerö CD/DVD Speed.

Michael


#3

Both drives are from LITE-ON

One is the SOHW-832S with shipped firmware
The other is SHW-160P6S newest firmware from LITE-ON

currently using anydvd/clonedvd2 and ConvertXtoDVD 4

note sure what you mean by MID


#4

Hi,[QUOTE=valir553;2467050]
One is the SOHW-832S with shipped firmware
The other is SHW-160P6S newest firmware from LITE-ON[/quote]so both are rather old drives.

note sure what you mean by MID
MID is the “Media ID”. This is used by the drive’s firmware in order to determine the (hopefully) correct write strategy.
At least Nerö CD/DVD Speed and ImgBurn do show the MID (and the supported speeds by the drive).

At least for your 832S I suspect, it has proper support for your blank media.

Michael


#5

ahh Now i understand.

from what Nero CD/DVD Speed says. the MID of my disks is

CMC MAG M01 000 (00h)

Nero detects the disk as a DVD why doesnt ClondDVD or even windows? is it because it a DVD+R and both drives dont support it or something else?


#6

I believe the 832S does NOT have support for that MID, even with the last firmware update.

The 160P6S is a much newer drive and surely does have support for it.


#7

Well i did the test above with my 160P6S, I was actually just going to test the 832S as well…

I have a backup copy of Halo on my HDD and using Nero CD/DVD Speed, was able to copy it to a blank DVD, (tho it only used .60GB out of 4.7GB) it still did copy and if thats what i got to do in order to get it to work untell i can afford to buy either new disks or a new drive (or both =D) then i will.

If you got any more info, Id love to hear it.


#8

[QUOTE=valir553;2467157]the MID of my disks is

CMC MAG M01 000 (00h)[/quote]Your 160P6S has support for that MID (verified with my 165P6S, which is basically the same)

Nero detects the disk as a DVD why doesnt ClondDVD or even windows? is it because it a DVD+R and both drives dont support it or something else?
No idea about CloneDVD, but Windows (XP) can’t deal with blank DVD media at all.

If you got any more info, Id love to hear it.
It did work before, didn’t it?
So, at the moment I am inclined to blame the media. If you could get your hands on some Verbatim discs, that would be great. Memorex is known to be extremely variable in disc quality. Perhaps you can return them for a refund.

Another idea: Sacrifice one of these Memowrecks and try to burn a disc (should be about 4GB of data) with ImgBurn. Then post the log, please. Perhaps this log does help narrowing down the issue.

Michael


#9

Ok, I’ll give it a shot, I got a video thats about 4.4GB. I’ll see if I can get it burnt…

Walmart has a 15 day return on all electronics and I dont have the cover with the UPC code anymore.

and Yes it did work b4 with about 5-10 disks…


#10

Heres the imgburn log that i got after i burned a video.

I 13:21:34 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 13:21:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 13:21:34 Total Physical Memory: 719,280 KB - Available: 297,316 KB
I 13:21:34 Initialising SPTI…
I 13:21:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 13:21:34 Found 2 DVD±RWs and 2 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROMs!
I 13:21:54 Operation Started!
I 13:21:54 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\10th Kingdom D3.iso
I 13:21:54 Source File Sectors: 2,289,363 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:21:54 Source File Size: 4,688,615,424 bytes
I 13:21:54 Source File Volume Identifier: The 10th Kingdom Disc 3
I 13:21:54 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4B06DFA4________The 10th Kingdom Disc 3
I 13:21:54 Source File Application Identifier: ELBY CLONEDVD
I 13:21:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: ELABORATE BYTES
I 13:21:54 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 13:21:54 Destination Device: [2:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S PS0C (F:) (ATA)
I 13:21:54 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-M01-00) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 13:21:54 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 13:21:54 Write Mode: DVD
I 13:21:54 Write Type: DAO
I 13:21:54 Write Speed: 6x
I 13:21:54 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 13:21:54 Link Size: Auto
I 13:21:54 Lock Volume: Yes
I 13:21:54 Test Mode: No
I 13:21:54 OPC: No
I 13:21:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 13:21:54 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 13:21:54 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes
I 13:21:54 Filling Buffer… (20 MB)
I 13:21:54 Writing LeadIn…
I 13:22:31 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2289362)
I 13:22:31 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2289362)
I 13:48:24 Synchronising Cache…
I 13:48:29 Closing Track…
I 13:48:30 Finalising Disc…
I 13:48:48 Exporting Graph Data…
I 13:48:48 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-160P6S_PS0C_FRIDAY-NOVEMBER-20-2009_1-21_PM_CMC_MAG-M01-00_6x.ibg
I 13:48:48 Export Successfully Completed!
I 13:48:48 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:26:54
I 13:48:48 Average Write Rate: 2,950 KB/s (2.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,133 KB/s (2.3x)


#11

Hmm. From the log, your burn should have been successfully.
Only thing which may indicate some problem is the slow speed. You set 6x, but in fact only 2.1 was reached.
Please check if DMA is enabled. This drive should run in UDMA 4 mode.

Apart from that it is better to have your system entirely patched, and using the “Administrator” account for regular tasks isn’t a good idea at all :eek: (applies to other accounts with administrative permissions also).

Michael


#12

Yes the burn was successful. Just tested in dvd player in living room.

Its a fresh install of XP on a 10gb HDD (spare that I use mostly for tests), Im not to worried to much of the admin account. My other drive that contains my main system is fully updated with latest software. And its on the other drive that this problem occurred. Guess I’ll go through it and delete clonedvd and just use nero and imgburn for now.

Thanks for your help Michael, I appreciate it alot.