Dual Layer DVD Burning issue 2 different types of burner

Issue

Thread Virgin 1st time posting

Hi I was wondering as I am a complete newbie if I could get some help. Most things I can work out on my own but this has got me stumped.

When trying to create either an ISO Dual Layer 8.5g DVD or a DVD video I get an error message “Could not perform Start of disc-at-once” and dual layer DVD+R disc wont burn.

Current configuration works fine for single layer DVD+/- 4.7g discs. Any help would be most appreciated guys. Cheers

Previously checked items

Defragment completed
DMA checks ok

Hardware
I am using Sony DVD RW DW Q56A (Firmware UYS3) and/or Asus DRW1608P25 – (Firmware 1.37)

Software

DVD Fab Decypter
Nero Recode. – Don’t want to upgrade
Nero Burning ROM 7.0.1.2 - Don’t want to upgrade

Media

Intact DL

ASUS DRW-1608P2S 1.37 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

Nero Burning ROM - Error Log

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 2/11/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2

Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A> Version: UYS3 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A >Version: UYS3 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC25N030ATMR04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A E: CDRom0

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046744kB)
Free physical memory: 489MB (501204kB)
Memory in use : 52 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

8.9.2006
ISO compilation
1:35:45 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

1:35:46 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

1:35:46 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

1:35:46 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

1:35:47 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

1:35:47 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
Last address to be written: 3519151 (782:02.01, 6873MB)

1:35:47 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

1:35:47 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer
Disc Manufacturer ID: CMC MAG, Media Type ID: D01, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 0

1:35:47 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

1:35:47 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 3519152 (3519152) = #3519152/782:2.2
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3519152 blocks [E: SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

1:35:47 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 7207223296, ISRC “”
DAO layout:
===========
Start|Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|RecDep_____
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
3519152 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

1:35:47 PM #12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:35:47 PM #13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files started

1:36:16 PM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
Cache writing successful.

1:36:16 PM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files completed

1:36:16 PM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

1:36:16 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:36:16 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 463
Disc finalized, LBA total Image size: 3519152 (6873MB), Last LBA L0: 1759583 (3436MB)

1:37:16 PM #19 SPTI -1114 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
E: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1114)
Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
Sense Code: 0x29
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xBF 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 0C 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29
Buffer x049c8600: Len xc
0x00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A D9 60

1:37:16 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 639
L0 Data Zone Capacity not set.
Max LBA L0 2086911 (1FD7FFh, 4075MB), next writable address 0 (0h, 0MB)

1:37:16 PM #21 CDR -1114 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Reset occurred
E: SONY DVD RW DW-Q58A

1:37:16 PM #22 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

1:37:16 PM #23 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

:cop:

Ok, a few suggestions. The first thing to do is get rid of your current stock of DL disks. Take them back to the store and get a refund.

As far as I am aware, the only reliable DL disks available are made by Mitsubishi, and are usually found under the Verbatim brand.

The second thing to do is replace your current decryption program. DVDFab Decrypter seems to cause as many problems as it solves. Try the free program RipIt4Me. It is a simple user interface that utilizes three programs, DVD Decrypter, DVDShrink and FixVTS. It can handle the newer protection schemes quite well. And if you are not aware, DVDShrink is very similar to Nero Recode, and both were developed by the same programmer.

If you are burning ISO’s, and trying to get the layer break set correctly on dvd videos, I’d stick to using another free program called ImgBurn. It was written by the same guy who wrote DVDDecrypter and is one of the best for burning image files, especially to dual layer disks.

Thanks for your prompt reply,

I was told by the seller that the discs are made by Mitsubishi? I am trying the configuration you suggested and will post further info once completed for DVD Video however neither of these suggestions solves the other issue that is the problem still persists for normal copying of files.

Im not sure what you mean by Layer breaks and ISO’s - is it possible to give me some info on these?

Cheers

Perfect

The Layer Break is the point where the reader/burner switches to the second layer of the dual layer media. It’s positioning is important as there is always a pause in the playback and an original dvd has this postioned in a scene where there is little or no motion.

If you’re copying fully an original disk with no compression then the best way is to rip it with DVD Decrypter to an ISO image file (in excess of 6gb probably) & then burn that with the same app or ImgBurn. These retain the layer break correctly.

Note that you must be using NTFS for your file system , not FAT32.

As pointed out Verbatim DL media is the only one to use , maybe Ricoh also according to some.

Thanks Kerry for you info much appreciated. Just to let you know I just completed my first burn successfully on a dual layer disk using Asus DRW1608P25 DVD recorder and the only difference was the program DVD Decrypter - FANTASTIC. No Nero, No DVD Fab, no anything else just DVD Decrypter. The discs I am using are working fine and they only cost me $3 each. Unfortunately I can’t say the same for the Sony. I must say that I cannot remember the last time I bought a Sony Product and didn’t have issues with it. Including DVD players, steroe equipment, TV’s etc. I think I have learn’t my lesson.

Is there any way I can get this Sony product to perform as expected when I paid for it.

Your Sony may not be quite as compatible with those CMC DL disks you have.
From your Nero error report: Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00
These are not particularly good DL media.
You can try updating the firmware on the Sony, but your best bet is to buy Verbatim DL disks.

DVDDecrypter is a fine program, quite versatile, but it is no longer being updated. If you run into a disk that it cannot decrypt, use RipIt4Me. You’ll find quite a few of the newer movies have additional protection schemes that have been introduced since DVDDecrypter was shut down.

And I use ImgBurn instead of Decrypter to burn ISO’s, since the author of those programs is still improving and adding capabilities to ImgBurn—just no decryption with it.

Thanks Kerry, I have had another go at the sony and it now seems to work fine. You were right about this discs. I have managed to burn 9/10 discs however there have been some errors with some parts of the discs I have used. I will try the verbatim discs and repost once completed.

Cheers

Verbatim DL media is the only DL media you can trust.
Imgburn v2 is the best burning app you can find, especially for DL.