Doesn't Burn Despite 100% Correct Setup, GSA-H55N

Rob_Man · 2008-06-06 23:04:49 UTC

Hello kind person

Well i gotta say, i’ve done it All as far as troubleshoot!

One day Burn, next day, no Burn and you’ll see in my ‘specs’ that everything points to, “Wow, this thing HAS to be burning”

I changed my Sony drive because i thought it HAD to be the drive…i bet i didn’t need to…

because i’d enjoyed just amazingly beautiful quality movies for a week, and then BOOM…JUST the burning feature…gone!

i then changed to an LG drive…of course…same issue occurs.

please, if you can help me…it’s been two months and an incredible weight trying to research the answer for two months, every day straight.

So then naturally, i tried DVD Flick and Imgburn as soon as i could…and this problem i believe does not pertain to these programs - as they ALL CONVERTED files PERFECTLY EVERY TIME(all other forum people, even techs, could not get this to sink in).

it’s the Burn feature ONLY that doesn’t work…gotta be on my end right?

i’ve uninstalled and reinstalled the three burn programs many times.

and i need to tell you i have just reinstalled my Windows XP and all is 100%clean, with all drivers reinstalled and everything up to date now… and you know it…right back to day one…simply NOT burning at all.

my specs:

I have an ASUS P5PE-VM motherboard.

I have my one-and-only HDD connected by SATA Cable to the
motherboard, therefore no adjustments need to be taken as far as jumper settings.

Western Digital HDDs do not need any adjusting, and supports ‘Cable select’, which i have set to my DVD-/+RW/CD-/+RW LG Drive: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N 1.05…and then i have my regular DVD drive

just my HDD alone connected by SATA Cable to motherboard.

and my LG drive connected by 18" Ultra DMA Cable, to the ‘primary’ IDE Channel…no other drives connected to the Cable.

and my regular DVD drive alone on it’s own regular ribbon cable (not an Ultra Cable), connected to the ‘secondary’ IDE port.

so it’s just my HDD and my LG Drive, and my DVD drive connected, oh and my floppy is still connected.

my LG drive is on ‘Master’…and my regular DVD drive is also set to ‘Master’.

In device manager…NEVER has my ‘advanced settings’ showed
‘PIO’ mode, never, for ANY device…it always has said, ‘DMA’.

i have done the deleting, several times, of the Secondary channels…nothing!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

this is the last convert and burn try in ConvertXtoDVD…and the ONLY reason i converted first here honestly???..

i was really hoping somehow the converting would ‘slap’ the burning awake:

6/2/2008 9:52:04 PM info BURN: Finalization Time

00:00:30 - Total completion time 00:14:17
6/2/2008 9:52:04 PM info BURN: WRITE SUCCESS
6/2/2008 9:51:34 PM info BURN: Write finished in

00:13:46 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 4.26
6/2/2008 9:38:02 PM info BURN: Lead-in burning time

(mS) 15343
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Write started 2168016

sectors to write
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Init success: DVD-R

DAO
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Writing speed

requested x4.0, effective x4.0
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Available write

speed: 20x, 18x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 4x
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Media ID: SONY16D1
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Media type: DVD-R
6/2/2008 9:37:47 PM info BURN: Ultra DMA mode 4

(ATA66)
6/2/2008 9:37:44 PM info BURN: Scanned files #11,

folder #3 - total size 4438959607 b. (4.13 Gb.)
6/2/2008 9:37:44 PM info BURN: Inserted media type :

DVD-R
6/2/2008 9:37:44 PM info BURN: Write started
6/2/2008 9:37:43 PM info Disc name: “My DVD”
6/2/2008 9:37:43 PM info Burned folder: "C:\Documents

and Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park

III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE"
6/2/2008 9:37:29 PM info BURN: New media inserted.

Burning layer is ready to write
6/2/2008 9:37:28 PM info BURN: Compatible media

types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R,

DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/2/2008 9:37:28 PM info BURN: New Drive selected :

0:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N 1.05 [D] (Ide)
6/2/2008 9:37:28 PM info Total size 4233 Mb., Target

size DVD5 4300 Mb., Occupation 98.45%
6/2/2008 9:36:19 PM info BURN: New media inserted.

Burning layer is ready to write
6/2/2008 9:36:16 PM info Copying "C:\Documents and

Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park

III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE.avi" -> "C:\Documents and

Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park

III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\ORIGINAL\1 - Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE.avi"
6/2/2008 9:36:16 PM info --------------Encoding

end--------------
6/2/2008 9:36:16 PM info Conversion completed in

01:02:22
6/2/2008 9:36:16 PM info Rendering rate: 2.12 x

Realtime
6/2/2008 9:36:16 PM info DVD duration (incl. menus)

02:11:58 (~ 7918 sec.) - rendering time 01:02:22
6/2/2008 9:35:35 PM info Generated duration 7888.19

sec., expected 7888.54 sec.
6/2/2008 9:29:26 PM info P-SDT buffer Underflow 1

times, 1260 bytes peak
6/2/2008 9:26:46 PM info Chapter #26 start at

125:0.242
6/2/2008 9:25:11 PM info Chapter #25 start at

120:0.443
6/2/2008 9:23:01 PM info Chapter #24 start at

115:0.276
6/2/2008 9:20:42 PM info Chapter #23 start at

110:0.226
6/2/2008 9:18:30 PM info Chapter #22 start at

105:0.043
6/2/2008 9:16:20 PM info Chapter #21 start at

100:0.244
6/2/2008 9:14:11 PM info Chapter #20 start at

95:0.194
6/2/2008 9:12:04 PM info Chapter #19 start at

90:0.395
6/2/2008 9:10:00 PM info Chapter #18 start at

85:0.095
6/2/2008 9:07:54 PM info Chapter #17 start at

80:0.178
6/2/2008 9:05:45 PM info Chapter #16 start at

75:0.245
6/2/2008 9:03:31 PM info Chapter #15 start at

70:0.329
6/2/2008 9:01:13 PM info Chapter #14 start at

65:0.146
6/2/2008 8:59:05 PM info Chapter #13 start at

60:0.096
6/2/2008 8:56:55 PM info Chapter #12 start at

55:0.180
6/2/2008 8:54:48 PM info Chapter #11 start at

49:59.997
6/2/2008 8:52:40 PM info Chapter #10 start at

45:0.330
6/2/2008 8:50:31 PM info Chapter #9 start at 40:0.030
6/2/2008 8:48:27 PM info Chapter #8 start at 35:0.231
6/2/2008 8:46:21 PM info Chapter #7 start at 30:0.431
6/2/2008 8:44:15 PM info Chapter #6 start at 25:0.248
6/2/2008 8:42:08 PM info Chapter #5 start at 20:0.449
6/2/2008 8:39:55 PM info Chapter #4 start at 15:0.399
6/2/2008 8:37:48 PM info Chapter #3 start at 10:0.099
6/2/2008 8:35:40 PM info Chapter #2 start at 5:0.300
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Stream #2 - Audio sync at

456.00 ms: 68.00 ms added
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info File #1 Stream #2 Sync.

delay : 0.00 ms
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info File #1 Stream #1 Sync.

delay : 0.00 ms
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Starting at 00:00:00.000 (0

ÂµS)
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info ********** Stream delay(s)

for playback position 1 **********
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Output Stream #2 (AUDIO) -

ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Output Stream #1 (VIDEO) -

mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 32:27 DAR 16:9], q=1-31,

3030 kb/s, pulldown: 23.976 -> 29.97 Fps
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Video processing: Fast

bilinear resampler (632352)->(720476)
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Video processing: Pad

(Left:0 - Top:2 - Right:0 - Bottom:2)
6/2/2008 8:33:54 PM info Video processing: Crop

(Left:4 - Top:0 - Right:4 - Bottom:0)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Chapter sequences require

542 Mb. temp space
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info ****** Source file #1 END

DETAILS ******
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Stream #2 (AUDIO): Audio:

mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 128 kb/s
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Stream #1 (VIDEO): Video:

mpeg4, yuv420p, 640x352 [PAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 23.98 FPS
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Type: Audio/Video file with

2 stream(s) - Playback order:1 - Queue:0
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info C:\Documents and

Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park

III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE.avi
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info ******** Source file #1

DETAILS ********
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Video bitrate 0/3030/9608

Kbps (min/avg/max)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Resolution, TV standard, TV

Screen: FULL D1 [720*480], ntsc, 16:9
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info *
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info ----------------Title

#1----------------
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info *
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Video bitrate has been set

to maximum possible value for DVD specifications. Target

size may not be reached.
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info 2 Stream(s) found - est.

duration 0228.539, reference 0228.539
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Opening file "C:\Documents

and Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park

III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic

Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE.avi"
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Project size 4.17 Gb. (177

Mb. audio - 3.98 Gb. video - 0 b. originals)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Don’t fix audio gaps
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [X] Engine Log
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Encoder quality: 100%
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info --------------Encoding

begin--------------
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info --------------Menu settings

end--------------
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [X] Skip root menu
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Play videos one after

the other
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Loop playback
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Play video automatically

(skip menu)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Menu fit: Text size reduced

from 36 to 26 in style “title”
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Template: Default, simple

menu, contains 4 page(s), 13 customizable element(s)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info --------------Menu settings

begin--------------
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info --------------Burn settings

end--------------
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info Default speed selected: 6x
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info BURN: Compatible media

types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R,

DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info BURN: New Drive selected :

0:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N 1.05 [D] (Ide)
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Delete files after burn

complete
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [ ] Don’t eject after burn

complete
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info SAO setting: Automatic
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [X] Include originals
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info [X] Burn result to DVD
6/2/2008 8:33:53 PM info --------------Burn settings

begin--------------
6/2/2008 8:30:06 PM info BURN: New media inserted.

Burning layer is ready to write
6/2/2008 8:29:32 PM info 30 Menu templates loaded.
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info BURN: Using Patin-Couffin

driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access

mode
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info Supported instruction set:

sse3
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info Tuning Performances for

Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.40GHz with 2 logical core(s)
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info User default language : 1033

(0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info System default language :

1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info Version 3.0.0.9
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info ExeName : "C:\Program

Files\VSO\ConvertX\3\ConvertXtoDvd.exe"
6/2/2008 8:29:29 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP

Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/2/2008 8:29:26 PM info ******************** Report

session started ********************

notice i’m using Sony discs, reccommended as excellent discs, and the very ones i used for those awesome quality movies before.

this is what my discs look like EVERY single time, after every burn try…

these are the pics of how my discs look after Every single burn try, and all my system information needed that i can think of:

either like this:

or like this, EVERY time:

system info:

device tree:

first ‘Primary’:

second ‘Primary’:

first ‘Secondary’:

second ‘Secondary’:

plus, i don’t have any ‘Upper or Lower’ filters in my Controllers, so i can’t delete them, like others had suggested in other forums.

and that’s it but, if needed, i can give you whatever else you need.

well thank you so much for reading this and if you can find it in your heart to try to help me bring my burn back, i would greatly appreciate it.

i just know it’s always been something really, really simple.

Thank you,
Rob

DLW · 2008-06-07 01:33:13 UTC

I haven’t figured out the answer to your problem, but there are a few logistics that need to be clarified.

You said “One day Burn, next day, no Burn” . You also said you’d been doing it for a week then the ‘Burn’ capability was gone. I don’t know if this was with the Sony or the LG.

And were all, or any, successful burns you did in the IDE configuration you described above ??

Did the Sony behave exactly the same way as the LG ??

Rob_Man · 2008-06-07 14:00:11 UTC

hi DLW.

thank you for your time you took to reply, it means a lot.

[B]answer to your first question:[/B]

on the day it just didn’t burn anymore, it was when i had my Sony (Internal 20X Max Multi-Format DVD Recorder DRU840A)…

and, of course, i jumped the gun by assuming it was the drive that was causing this problem, and then i bought my LG drive.

and just to confirm DLW, cause i initially said in my above post that ‘Cable Select’ was the settings on both my drives…

but now my LG and my regular DVD drive are both [B]currently set[/B] as ‘Master’ due to the fact that they each are on their own ribbon cable.

[B]second question answer:[/B]

To tell you the truth DLW, probably a mistake, but i never checked after i bought the Sony…

i just installed it and began, so i’m not sure what it’s jumpers were set at when i hooked it up.

plus, now i’m not sure what my regular DVD drive’s jumpers were set to either…dang.

however, i do know that after the burn went out, and i started researching the problem, i went out and bought the Ultra DMA Cable and installed it on the LG…THEN after that i set both drives to ‘Cable Select.’

so that means that the Sony’s jumpers were not initially set to ‘Cable Select’, and i know for a fact that my regular DVD drive [B]wasn’t[/B] initially either.

so i can’t recall what the both were set at, at the beginning.

[B]third question answer:[/B]

YES.

they’ve acted the exact same way.

the Sony drive, [B]after[/B] the burning failed, and the LG drive, ever since installing it, have acted the EXACT same way…producing the same results depicted in the above pics.

DLW, these are just ideas and leads to a possible solution to this problem, so please don’t be confused by this, but…one of my main questions since then has always been:

could something have burned out (no pun) on the Motherboard since this problem was so instant…like a chip, or the controllers or something?

anyway, i hope this answers your questions…i really appreciate you responding DLW…please let me know if you see anything or have any ideas for me to try or whatever?

thank you,
Rob

DLW · 2008-06-08 03:02:45 UTC

Hardware failure is always possible but you can test the IDE’s with working devices. I talked to LG about a sudden failure to read DVD-Video on my H54L. They told me the Nero software I installed corrupted the Firmware !! They replaced it with the H55L, I installed it, and its still running perfectly.

I’ve looked at your board. Its a little more advanced than mine which is the Intel 845 PE MAX Intel chipset. I can tell you my H55L works well with the Intel Ultra ATA 100 hardware on the mobo so I don’t believe its a compatibility problem.

I see that your HDD is on Sata and the LG is on Primary IDE master and the older DVD is on Secondary IDE master. (where is the Sony, BTW ??).
I don’t have Sata so my two HDD’s are on the Primary IDE and the LG is on my Secondary master alone. Both HDD’s are UDMA 5 on the one cable. If I put in the old UDMA 2 HDD it drops the UDMA 5 drive down to 2.

To try and fix this problem you may have to do some experimenting because there is no quick pat answer to this as you have probably discovered by now.

My first observation is the way Windows sees your Drives. It reports two different UDMA speeds on the Primary IDE/device 0 > UDMA 4 – which is what the LG runs at; and UDMA 5 – which is what the HDD runs at. Optical drives don’t run at UDMA 5. Now your Bios setup utility under the main screen, will show the IDE detection and a menu for all the Channels. You should be in Auto for all those channels. Yours will show a Third and Fourth IDE master which should be your Sata ports. As far as I know, Windows XP doesn’t show Third and Fourth IDE masters. So perhaps it shows the Sata as one Primary/Dev 0 and and the Pata as another Primary/Dev 0. Whatever, I don’t like the looks of that. There have been a lot of problems with having an HDD and an Optical on the same Primary as far as master and slave is concerned; though that isn’t your physical configuration in this case, I’m wondering if it could be the logical one to Win XP.

You indicated that you never had a successful burn with the LG but apparently you did for a while with the Sony. LG’s are picky about DMA controllers and configurations and if it isn’t right it just won’t function. Maybe it isn’t installed right yet. Putting aside the cable select issue … was the HDD/Sony/regular DVD in the same [B]channel[/B] configuration as HDD/LG/DVD is now ??

Can you play DVD-Video from the LG in the current configuration ??

Checking the IDE channel:
You need to use a test tool so start using Nero CD-DVD Speed test tool. If you don’t have it, its easy to get online. If you can read a DVD with the LG then you want to run a [U]Transfer rate test[/U] at Max speed and check the graph to see if its up to speed. LG drives will limit the rate to 4x-6x for DVD-VIDEO read speed so its better to test a pure data file at max speed. You also want to run a [U]Burst Rate test[/U] which should show about 30 MBs.

If you can’t read on the LG:
You might want to try a [B]channel[/B] configuration experiment. Unplug the regular DVD on the Secondary master and plug the LG in there. Leave the older DVD disconnected. Check the Device manager for Primary UDMA 5 for the HDD and Secondary channel UDMA 4 for the LG.

There are other things you can try but it never hurts to test the LG on another computer if your able to, to eliminate it as the source of the problem. Maybe a friend or at work or even at the store where you bought it.

Rob_Man · 2008-06-08 15:55:46 UTC

how are we suppose to quote in this thread if we can’t highlight the quote itself?

hi DLW.

thanks again sir for your time you spent on this.

[B]you asked: (where is the Sony, BTW??)[/B]

i took it back (mistake i know) and got the LG (after my research showed LG goes with Asus boards), thinking it was my Sony causing the issue.

[B]you instructed:[/B] in Bios Utitlity Main screen, my IDE channels should show AUTO.

they are ALL set to AUTO already, yes.

[B]you mentioned:[/B] Nero corrupted your firmware…

me, i never installed Nero, it just came with my desktop after it was put together (bought the components, and was put together). Nero, in my above pics, was only used to show my discs,

[B]you asked:[/B] if my LG plays back movies?

i know it does because it spins then is immediately asking if i want to play movie - and - it WOULD, but right now my Windows Player 11 is my default player, and i just spent 20 mins. trying to make my Quicktime Player the default, can’t find out how…frickin computers!

but i know it would play because you can just tell by it’s behavior(spelled right?), and because whether recognizing it or trying to burn with it, the light on the front of the LG always flickers in recognition.

[B]regarding your paragraph under “Checking the IDE Channel:”[/B]

DLW, if you can answer these two questions please: i can search to find the Nero CD-DVD Speed Test Tool, but i’m not sure what to do after i get it, is it the tool that will perform this Transfer Rate Test you mentioned?

and will it also be the tool i use to run the Burst Rate Test as well? if not, how do i do that (and how do i do the Transfer Rate Test)?

[B]regarding your paragraph under if you can’t read on the LG:[/B]

i am definitely going to do this today, i may have not done that configuration, so i’ll try ths today. (as i write, in So. California it’s 3:40p.m.)

[B]regarding your sentence, “Whatever, i don’t like the looks of that:”[/B]

“thank you,” someone finally took notice…geeez!

an afterthought, just to let you know DLW, i believe at the beginning, my setting when burning was working(only for 1 week)was…

my Sony was connected by a normal ribbon cable and set to ‘Master’, and my regular DVD drive was in the middle of the ribbon cable and the other end of the cable was connected to the ‘Secondary’ IDE Port…AND i do not remember if the regular’s jumpers were set to ‘Master’ or ‘Slave.’…maybe it was on ‘Master’ too and that could have possibly caused the system to somehow disallow the burning.

irregardless DLW, i’m going to try the moving of the LG to the ‘Secondary’ Port today, and unplugging the regular…and i will report back.

thank you very much for this DLW.

if you can please write back to answer my above two questions about the Nero Tool, and how to do the two tests.

i would again appreciate it greatly.

thank you again,
Rob

zebadee · 2008-06-08 16:04:52 UTC

Hi
Go to http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
Download CD/DVDSpeed.
Insert disc & run CD/DVDSpeed.
On Benchmark Tab. Should be open by default.
Click on Run Test.
In the drop down menu select either Transfer Rate or Burst Rate.

Burst Rate shows in lower right hand corner. Red square.

Transfer Rate is shown by graph (red square) & figures (blue oblong).
Clicking on the Start button will run all the tests.

In the graph you are looking for only smooth lines both yellow (RPM) green (Speed).

Rob_Man · 2008-06-08 16:12:13 UTC

wow, thank you Zebadee.

how in the world could you have posted 1 minute after my last post?

that was amazing, did you read my post in 1 minute?

or is it just an amazing coincidense that you just answered the two questions i just asked DLW?

bizarre, but highly welcomed. lol

thank you either way Zebadee, i will do this.

i really appreciate all this guys.

thank you,
Rob

_Jethro · 2008-06-08 16:18:05 UTC

Zabadee has the ability to jump forward in time 24 hrs. Then he looks for the answer and jumps back in time to post it. Please do not tell anyone else or his powers could be misused by someone evil.

Rob_Man · 2008-06-08 16:21:18 UTC

lol, hi Jethro

the ‘original’ Jumper if you will lol.

zebadee · 2008-06-08 16:27:55 UTC

Hi
I wasn’t that quick, as I’d only done half a post when you two (Rob Man & ~Jethro~) posted.
Is now complete.

pfloyd1 · 2008-06-08 16:52:10 UTC

Make both drives MASTER on each IDE channel. I don’t trust CS and never will.

Rob_Man · 2008-06-08 17:38:42 UTC

Zeb, lol.

hi pfloyd1.

yeah i tried that one last, about a week ago i had that setting - just not burning.

um, i thought i’d post the burn try (failed)i just got finished doing, AFTER i went in and unplugged the regular DVD drive, and plugged my LG into the ‘Secondary’ IDE Port…and it is set at ‘Master’ now.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

6/8/2008 4:56:08 PM info BURN: Finalization Time 00:00:31 - Total completion time 00:10:48
6/8/2008 4:56:08 PM info BURN: WRITE SUCCESS
6/8/2008 4:55:37 PM info BURN: Write finished in 00:10:17 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 4.20
6/8/2008 4:45:34 PM info BURN: Lead-in burning time (mS) 14313
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Write started 1594688 sectors to write
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Init success: DVD-R DAO
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x4.0
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Available write speed: 20x, 18x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 4x
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Media ID: SONY16D1
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Media type: DVD-R
6/8/2008 4:45:19 PM info BURN: Ultra DMA mode 4 (ATA66)
6/8/2008 4:45:17 PM info BURN: Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 3264796672 b. (3.04 Gb.)
6/8/2008 4:45:17 PM info BURN: Inserted media type : DVD-R
6/8/2008 4:45:17 PM info BURN: Write started
6/8/2008 4:45:15 PM info Disc name: "Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-P"
6/8/2008 4:45:15 PM info Burned folder: "C:\Documents and Settings\Rob Gutierrez\My Documents\Movies\Jurassic Park III\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\Jurassic Park[1993]DVDrip[ENG]-PZE\VIDEO_TS"
6/8/2008 4:45:12 PM info BURN: New media inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
6/8/2008 4:45:09 PM info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/8/2008 4:45:09 PM info BURN: New Drive selected : 3:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N 1.05 [D] (Ide)
6/8/2008 4:44:28 PM info 30 Menu templates loaded.
6/8/2008 4:44:27 PM info BURN: New media inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
6/8/2008 4:44:25 PM info BURN: Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access mode
6/8/2008 4:44:25 PM info Supported instruction set: sse3
6/8/2008 4:44:25 PM info Tuning Performances for Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.40GHz with 2 logical core(s)
6/8/2008 4:44:24 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2008 4:44:24 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2008 4:44:24 PM info Version 3.0.0.9
6/8/2008 4:44:24 PM info ExeName : "C:\Program Files\VSO\ConvertX\3\ConvertXtoDvd.exe"
6/8/2008 4:44:24 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/8/2008 4:44:23 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************

now, before i download the CD/DVD Speed Tool later tonight, i thought i would give some BIOS info in case you guys see something i should change…man i hope.

[B]these are under ADVANCED TAB:[/B]

my ‘Ecp Mode DMA Channel’ is set at ‘DMA3’
my ‘Onboard Lan Boot Ram’ is at ‘Disabled’

[B]under ‘IDE Configuration:’[/B]

my ‘Enhanced Mode Support On’… is set at ‘S-ATA’…i am wondering if maybe this should be set to ‘P-ATA + S-ATA?’

[B]plus, just to tell you, my HDD still shows:[/B]

‘Asysnc DMA: Multiword DMA-2’
and ‘Ultra DMA: Ultra DMA-5’
and the ‘DMA Mode’ is set to AUTO

[B]also, again just to let you know, i just changed my boot order to:[/B]

LG
HDD
Floppy

i just thought it best to give you guys the BIOS settings that [I]I think[/I] may be pertinent - however i’m aware i could be totally useless as well lol.

i’m, in a couple hours, going to download that Tool and apply it.

again, if you guys see anything i should change or try, please let me know?

thank you all for your help,
Rob

Rob_Man · 2008-06-08 21:33:06 UTC

“uh-oh”

well, ihave the results, and i have no idea what this reads, but if you said “smooth” lines, then i think it’s bad…

but then it gets worse:

[B]Transfer Rate result and Tabs:[/B]

[B]and…the results of the Burst Rate test:[/B]

i even restarted and ran the test again, but got the same error.

if someone wants to give it to me straight, i’m ready lol.

i also tried the overburning test, but it said the diesc is the wrong kind.

thanks,
Rob

DLW · 2008-06-09 05:33:52 UTC

Just push the [B]Quote[/B] button and the post will be in your ‘Reply text window’. Then take out all but what you want to quote. The Html Quote commands are at the beginning and at the end. -->[/quote]

you asked: (where is the Sony, BTW??)

i took it back (mistake i know)

Yep, it could have been useful for testing

you asked: if my LG plays back movies?

i know it does because it spins then is immediately asking if i want to play movie - and - it WOULD, but right now my Windows Player 11 is my default player, and i just spent 20 mins. trying to make my Quicktime Player the default, can’t find out how…frickin computers!

Explore -> Right click the DVD drive -> select properties -> click the Autoplay Tab. Select from the list.

OK well, the important thing is to see if you can read or write anything with that LG at this point. The Session Report looks OK. I’m assuming you are on an 80 flat cable on the secondary master now. There should be nothing wrong with this configuration.

So in continuing to see if the drive can read and write you need to get more familiar with the DVD-Speed test tool. You can read the manual, its here on this site.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f96/cd-dvd-speed-user-guide-192563/

I’ve run a few sample tests on a blank 16x CMC MAG M01 to illustrate what you can expect to see. Now this disk is not high quality and will usually not pass disk quality scans very well; but these tests ran flawlessly. Also you can [B]not[/B] run [B]Disk Quality scans [/B]from the test tool with an LG drive, they’re not capable, so ignore that tab.

First thing is you got to fix your graph to read up to 20x. So you click: File -> Options -> Transfer rate under the Standard tests tree. Set the ‘Maximum speed DVD’ to 20x instead of 16x that its set at now. Make sure the graph test length slider is set to ‘Accuracy’. I think the defaults here are OK.

Your TRT (transfer rate) doesn’t look right and I don’t mean the graph or the 16x cutoff. This bottom info window and Disc type window show you have a [B]Blank DVD[/B] on this TRT. If I try to run a TRT on a blank CMC MAG M01 it reports it cannot simulate with this disk. I suppose some DVDs will run in a simulate mode on the TRT but I haven’t done it yet. Apparently you did. Because the main purpose of TRT is to test readability of burned media, you have to put something on the disk first. So that first graph is what a burn looks like. Here is mine using the [U]Create Data and Verify[/U] option in OPTIONS in Standard tests; pushing a CMC MAG M01 all the way (don’t do that with any important data!)

You notice, no errors were found.

You can see the burst rate but if I try to run Burst rate on a blank disk it doesn’t do anything because there’s no data to test.

The next graph down shows the TRT. This is the actual sequential read of the data I just burned. It looks fine.

The third one is a Scan of all the sectors on the disk. It checked out with no errors. And finally disc info.

If you have some successfully burned discs you can try a TRT and a Burst rate. If you want to try and burn a Data disk for test purposes, select create data and verify boxes in OPTIONS under STANDARD TESTS. Uncheck any other tests; you can run any of them later.

If you use a burned DVD-VIDEO, the LG firmware will lock the TRT to 4x-6x.

One thing … I’m a little puzzled why your Disc Info under Basic Information shows [I]unknown for the Manufacturer and n/a for the MID[/I].

Rob_Man · 2008-06-09 16:18:53 UTC

thank you DLW, really.

just to get this out of the way…

i followed your directions on setting Quicktime as my default player, however it wasn’t on the list (maybe later if you know how i can get it there, maybe you can let me know how)…but the issue at hand…

okay i changed the spped to 20x per your instruction, then i put in a successfully burned disc, and did the two tests…

to answer the n/a media ID…my guess is that probably because those first tests were done with the blank disc.

anyway, these tests were done with successfully burned media, but just to add here…all my Movies were successfully burned ONLY with my Sony drive, and these same Sony16DI discs…the LG was purchased AFTER the burning went out on my Sony.

[B]so, the TRT test results:[/B]

[B]BRT:[/B]

[B]Disc Info:[/B]

[B]Disc Quality:[/B]

[B]Scan:[/B]

The only other thing i can think to add is…

i hope this doesn’t make a difference but, i did the TRT first, and i didn’t take the pics of the ‘Tabs’ until AFTER i did the BRT…i don’t know i may have to do it again.

the other thing i should tell you is, and this may be really stupid, but i’m not sure what, or if i have any data discs to do a test with.

and that’s it i guess.

i’m anxious to hear your explanation of these DLW if you can.

thank you so much. hope your dasy/night is awesome.

Rob

DLW · 2008-06-10 00:13:43 UTC

Try this: My Computer --> Tools --> Folder Options --> File Types Tab --> You’ll see a list of Registered File Types. At the top of the list somewhere you should see something like this --> Icon(NONE) DVD Video <-- . Click it and then click the Advanced tab at the bottom. Another window will open called “Edit File Type” and there may be a list of players there that will play DVD. Select one and and make it the Default. If Quicktime isn’t there, click on the ‘New’ tab, browse for the program and add it to the list and make it the default. Go back to Autoplay in properties, select DVD movie from the drop down list. You should now see it in the main window. I’d re-boot first (may be not necessary).

anyway, these tests were done with successfully burned media, but just to add here…all my Movies were successfully burned ONLY with my Sony drive, and these same Sony16DI discs…the LG was purchased AFTER the burning went out on my Sony.

OK … You can read and your TRT is normal and your Burst Rate is normal.

Forget about the Disc Quality Tab or anything you see in there. Despite repeated attempts to get LG to add Scanning ability they continue to refuse to do so.

Your ScanDisc is blank because you couldn’t run it. For some reason the programmer has a bug or doesn’t know about it; but after running the TRT on the Benchmark tab, the ‘Start’ button is greyed out on the ScanDisc tab. First save all the graph pictures in .png format then close The test tool. Re-start the test tool and go straight to ScanDisc. The ‘Start’ button is now available. Run it and see that it can read all sectors in Green.

i hope this doesn’t make a difference but, i did the TRT first, and i didn’t take the pics of the ‘Tabs’ until AFTER i did the BRT…i don’t know i may have to do it again.

No problem. You can also run it at the same time you do a TRT and it will show on the same picture with the TRT.

the other thing i should tell you is, and this may be really stupid, but I’m not sure what, or if i have any data discs to do a test with.

That’s what you have to do now. It can read but can it write. Built into the test tool is a data creation program and a verify function that will fill your disc with bin files. Make a note of any and all error messages you get trying to run this test.

Get a blank disc that has never been used for anything on either drives. Open the test tool and check that everything looks normal in the disc info tab. Go to OPTIONS from the File button and click the [U]Standard Tests [/U]on the tree. In this window you check the boxes [U]Create Data disc[/U] and [U]Verify data [/U]. Uncheck anything else under “Selected tests”. Set the Spin-up time to 15 seconds and on the right set Maximum for Read and Write. Click OK.

Click Start and see what happens.

If Nero was Installed in your system, is [B]INCD [/B]running ?? It will show in the Task Manager under the Processes Tab.

Rob_Man · 2008-06-10 03:05:47 UTC

hi D.

thanks for your help.

okay i created the data cd.

here’s the info…

this shows ‘n/a ID’, i don’t know if it’s important:

hopefully everything is cool.

please let me know.

thank you,
Rob

DLW · 2008-06-10 05:31:52 UTC

OK everything looks good. You have a real good burn time at 4:40. All data is there. The drive can read and write at maximum speed.

The media code is being changed which causes the manufacturer and mid info to go away. To tell you the truth, I don’t why. It doesn’t matter since the disc is closed anyway. It doesn’t do that on my TDK CMC MAG M01. I can speculate, but there’s no point. The MID is still in the media code block.

So now you switch to the Create Disc tab. You want to burn a Video image file. I use an iso from ImgBurn or an nrg from Nero. These are the only two supported Image files for this function of the test tool.

There is no special option window for this Tab; everything is controlled on the tab. You need to make a DVD-Video file in iso or nrg. Of course you need a blank DVD and on this tab you’ll see ‘Settings’ where you want to set your burn speed and check the [U]Burn image [/U]box. If you want to do a real burn don’t check the [U]Simulate [/U]box; if you want to try a simulation first to see if it will run as you expect without actually writing anything you could check the Simulate box as well. Check both Show graph boxes in the bottom right for the Buffer if they’re not already.

I recommend not pushing the speed too far for this. 8x or 12x is enough. It should look like the picture below.

So you click Start and a browse window will come up where you’ll find and select the Image file to burn. Hopefully when its done you’ll have a playable Video on the disk.

Rob_Man · 2008-06-10 21:07:48 UTC

hi D.

i was lucky to find an iso left over from my three-week-long rectal exam of trying to burn.

i hope i did this right.

i don’t know how to read this, so if you could please let me know.

thank you D,
Rob

DLW · 2008-06-11 02:14:38 UTC

Hello Rob
The graph looks fine. This is a different kind of write strategy called Z-CLV which is controlled by the H55 firmware for this kind of media and attempts to write the 8x at an even speed. But first it writes a straight 4x for half a gig then shifts to 8x. Z-CLV can write reliable burns and maintain a high write average speed.

Hopefully you have the files that were in that iso now burned on the disc. You can explore it and see the files and or folders. If you used DVD-Video files to make this iso then you should have an AUDIO_TS and a VIDEO_TS folder. There will be nothing in the AUDIO_TS folder but your VIDEO_TS folder will have .BUP, .IFO, and .VOB files. You can also put .mpg files and any other type of files but whatever you put in that iso should now be on the disc and explorable and readable. If it was DVD-Video files then the disc should play in a player. If inserted in the H55, after a minute the play menu window should come up or start playing on whatever you set in Autoplay. You can also manually start up a DVD player software and tell it to open the DVD drive and play the disc.

The thing to do now is explore the burned disc and and make sure the files you put in that iso are on the disc. If it was DVD-Video, try and play it. What files are are on the Disc ??

NOTE: The Disc quality screen won’t give you any pertinent information.