Does your PX-712A write 8X DVD-R Properly?

vbimport

#1

Hi All,

Myself and many other PX-712A owners are not getting good results with 8X DVD-R discs whilst people using DVD+R discs seem to be getting great results so I would like to know if anyone can write 8X DVD-R at 8X properly.

If you can write an 8X DVD-R at 8X and get an acceptable PI/PO Error Scan then please answer YES and also please post the Media ID of the discs that work so we can try them.

If like me you cannot find any 8X DVD-R that will write at 8X then please answer NO.

Thanks,
Taroth


#2

Hi Taroth,

I’ve just posted my latest scan on the “New firmware for PX-712A : v1.03” thread.

Plextor 8x DVD-R, TYG02 @8x … just brilliant!
Results with Datawrite 8x DVD-R, FUJIFILM03 @6x and @8x look both quite poor, but they still comply with the standard (just) …
Results with Verbatim 8x DVD-R, MCC02RG20 … well, see it for yourself in the above mentioned thread … very strange …

I’ll receive in few days some 4x TDK DVD-R’s and I hope they’ll be either TTG01 or TYG01 … if that turns out to be the case (it is quite likely), then they should also write at 8x … I’ll post the results as quickly as I can and hopefuly they should look like bingoe’s results (same thread).

So at the moment is a mixed bag … it seems to work perfectly with TY media, but as I haven’t tried too many other DVD-R media at 8x, I won’t cast my vote just yet :slight_smile:

My general feeling is: AVOID RITEK at any cost :slight_smile:


#3

Plextor 712A Firmware 1.03 TLA 0102 May.

I use Datawrite grey burned 8x.

Media code:

00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 0C …@…R…
00000010 88 88 90 00 03 46 55 4A 49 46 49 00 04 4C 4D 30 …FUJIFI…LM0
00000020 33 00 00 00 05 B8 83 00 30 00 01 00 06 09 0F 10 3…0…


#4

Hi JBV

I have tried the FUJIFILM03 media and at 8X I get very poor results:

If you get better results then please post your PI/PO scan. If there are great differences then perhaps my drive (and others) are defective? If that is the case then we will RMA the drives but please post your scans so we can see what a good drive can do…

Taroth


#5

Hi CVS

I think Taiyo Yuden DVD-R are probably the only ones that work at 8X in the PX-712A at the moment (but I haven’t been able to try this for myself) so please tell me where you found these DVD-R as I am also in the UK and am having trouble finding 8X media that works. Readily available is Datasafe, Datawrite, Ridisc, Ridata, Verbatim but they are all useless if burned at 8X.

The other discs you refer to “TTG01” I have been able to find and whilst the thought of a scratch proof DVD-R is very appealing I can only find them singly in DVD cases at £2.50 each. Far too much money for me !!:sad:!!

Taroth


#6

Taroth,
I think this would qualify as a “YES”.
I have some TYG01 media that I will try later and post results also.



#7

I think this also qualifies as a “YES”.
TYG01 @ 8x



#8

Hi pchilson

Did you write that Ritek G05 at 8X? If you did then mine and a lot of other peoples drives must be faulty :frowning:

Taroth


#9

I use Datawrite grey burned 8x.

Media code:

00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 0C …@…R…
00000010 88 88 90 00 03 46 55 4A 49 46 49 00 04 4C 4D 30 …FUJIFI…LM0
00000020 33 00 00 00 05 B8 83 00 30 00 01 00 06 09 0F 10 3…0…


PlexTools Professional V2.15 Q-Check PI/PO Test
Copyright © 1999-2004 Plextor SA/NV
20 juli 2004

              PIE        POF
   Avg       2.44          -
   Max         52          -
 Total     345006          0



#10

Hi jbv

Thats far better than my results with Datawrite Grey DVD-R (FUJIFILM03). See my results above.

It looks like my drive is defective after all, but it passes the self-diagnostic test! I hope I can get an RMA for it.

Taroth


#11

Taroth, yes that G05 was burned at 8x all the way, no slowdown.
I’m not sure I would trust all G05 though from what you read. I think I just happened to get a good batch.

My feeling is this drive can do very good burns given the media is not faulty. However there seems to be a bad run of drives out there. If your drive cannot produce results like what you see others getting then you should by all means RMA that thing as many times as necessary to get one that can do it. Plextor charges a premium and you should demand performance!


#12

You can find Plextor DVD+/-Rs only in two places (UK) as far as I know:

Ebuyer.co.uk
Plextor DVD+R 4x, 5pk @ £5.26 (will burn at 8x) (YUDEN 000 T01 Rev01)
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 25pk @ £32.24 (will burn at 12x) (YUDEN 000 T02 Rev00)
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 5pk @ £6.95 (will burn at 12x) (YUDEN 000 T02 Rev00)

Easyetrader.com
Plextor DVD+R 4x, 5pk @ £5.72
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 25pk @ £31.49
Plextor DVD-R 8x, 5pk @ £6.83 (TYG02)

delivery is extra … but the prices include VAT.

The other discs you refer to “TTG01” I have been able to find and whilst the thought of a scratch proof DVD-R is very appealing I can only find them singly in DVD cases at £2.50 each. Far too much money for me !!:sad:!!

£2.50 is a real ripoff :a

I’ve seen decently priced TDK 4x DVD-R media at:

dabs 25pk @18.76 delivered
cd-rmedia.co.uk @ 16.75 delivered (this is the cheapest place I’ve found and hence I’ve ordered one pack from here, which I shall receive this week)
ccl computers also has them but the delivery is slightly higher if you only want to buy one pack.

At this stage, I can only assume that they are TYG01 or TTG01 … it is quite likely as I’m not aware that TDK uses any other dyes for their DVD-R discs … I’ll let you know once I’ll receive my order … until then, fingers crossed :slight_smile:

Just one note of caution … in quite few places, it might be chaper to order one spindle at a time rather than in a single order … the delivery prices tend to increase qite quickly in some places … in other places, they have fixed delivery up to few kilos …


#13

Same for me … I get pretty bad results even at 6x, and that’s with the new drive I’ve got from Plextor … just take a look at the “New firmware for PX-712A : v1.03” thread.

@jbv
Are you using FW1.03? Also are you getting this sort of result with most of your Datawrites or their quality varies form disc to disc?

@pchilson
Your results with RITEK G05 are very impressive indeed. Where these RITEK branded or another brand? There are many manufacturers who are using this dye currently it seems …
It is such a pitty I don’t have any RITEK G05’s to test my drive with … I’l try to see if I can buy some in small quantities, preferably different brands, maybe as part of a sample pack … just for testing …


#14

Probably what I’m going to say won’t make those of us who still have problems to feel overjoyed, but it might give us some hope …

One thing I can say with certitude is that Plextor is keeping a close eye on this forum :smiley: and that they’re aware and working to solve all these problems … lets hope that the result will be visible sooner rather than later.
Hopefully, as someone said before, in one of the other threads, FW1.04 will turn out to be the beginning of better times for many of us in terms of media support … :bow:

I know is not an easy task to make it better overnight by adding proper writing strategies for all this media, but NEC did it (for half the price), so like it or not, the King will have to do it as well, and quite quickly :slight_smile:

True, NEC had great “luck” with herrie’s work, but then maybe this should be an inspiration for others as well … after all, NEC was smart enough to bank on it and keep the door open … I’ll say no more …


#15

To cvs

I am using Plextor 712A Firmware 1.03 TLA 0102 May 04.

Have burned 15 grey Datawrite with the same PI/PO results as above.


#16

New firmware for PX-712A : v1.03 ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 … Last Page ) see page 4

Re: New firmware for PX-712A : v1.03


Drive Info ID:0 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A V1.03 (#113747)
Test Settings Read Speed: 2X CLV
Test Result Disc Info: MATCHSTICK_MEN DVD-R, 4314 MB (MATCHSTICK_MEN) MXL RG03

Avg Max Total
PIE 3.99 82 550690
POF - - 0

Test Duration 0:27:11
Attached Images


#17

@cvs
These particular RITEK G05’s were PioData brand DVD-R 8x purchased in individual jewel case’s in the US.


#18

You can find Plextor DVD+/-Rs only in two places (UK) as far as I know:

Ebuyer.co.uk
Plextor DVD+R 4x, 5pk @ £5.26 (will burn at 8x) (YUDEN 000 T01 Rev01)
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 25pk @ £32.24 (will burn at 12x) (YUDEN 000 T02 Rev00)
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 5pk @ £6.95 (will burn at 12x) (YUDEN 000 T02 Rev00)

Easyetrader.com
Plextor DVD+R 4x, 5pk @ £5.72
Plextor DVD+R 8x, 25pk @ £31.49
Plextor DVD-R 8x, 5pk @ £6.83 (TYG02)

delivery is extra … but the prices include VAT.

Thanks for the info, unfortunately I cannot use DVD+R discs as they don’t work in my XBOX.

I have just found a 5 pack of Verbatim 4X DVD-R using a Taiyo Yuden dye (TYG01) for £3.75 at SVP and according to other posts these will write at 8X in the PX-712A. I’ll order some and post scans when they arrive.

Taroth


#19

Cheers for that …
I’ve tried to find some RITEK G05 media in small quantities for testing but I could not find what I was looking for, so instead I’ve just ordered some Traxdata 8x DVD-R’s in a pack of 25. They use the same RITEK G05 dye, and according to the PX712A review @cdrinfo.com, they should give similar scans with yours. I’ll probably get them by the and of the week, so I guess that will be an interesting test to perform :slight_smile:


#20

7 people at the moment have voted that they can write 8X DVD-R at 8X with decent results on the PX-712A but where are the media ID’s and PI/PO Scans?

Please people I know it takes 30 Mins to do a PI/PO SUM8 error scan on the disc you thought was okay but start the scan before you go to bed and it’ll be finished long before you get up in the morning. Just because your drive completed the burn without errors does not mean you have a quality burn!!! At the very least please post the Media ID of the discs that worked.

I don’t dispute that you did have a quality burn with your PX-712A but please post your PI/PO scans / Media ID so that those of us having problems can decide if our drives are indeed faulty or just performing as badly as everybody else’s.

Cheers,
Taroth